Would you date a smoker now that you vape?
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I like cig butts and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty ciggy
And a smoke ring in your face
You get sprung
You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty ciggy
And a smoke ring in your face
You get sprung
I really dont care. Its not that much of an issue because the women I'm usually interested in dont really smoke anyway. And if she's in that zone where smoking would make or break my decision on whether to keep her around she's not worth my time anyway.
But I feel you, when you stop smoking your sense of smell gets a lot better and certain smells can drive you up a wall a lot more lol
But I feel you, when you stop smoking your sense of smell gets a lot better and certain smells can drive you up a wall a lot more lol
I don't have any close friends who smoke, actually, never have.
And, I've never been in a long term relationship with anybody who smokes. So now that I vape, I don't expect any of that would change, just because it seems to be my destiny to always be around non-smokers.
Guess I am glad that they all put up with me, though, when I was smoking.
And, I've never been in a long term relationship with anybody who smokes. So now that I vape, I don't expect any of that would change, just because it seems to be my destiny to always be around non-smokers.
Guess I am glad that they all put up with me, though, when I was smoking.
I've no good answer and I'm going to turn this tab off and sit here thinking about the sweet dates I've had long ago.
Not sure what you are saying tbh. You call someone prejudiced, to invoke a response !? To what end ? And what does " questioning your positions, constantly " , have to do with calling someone prejudiced ? I'm a little confused, but whatever, do your thing i suppose.
It seems pretty clear to me. Op said " I don't see myself dating someone who smokes cigs unless they are willing to switch to vaping. I really can't stand the smell of smoke anymore ". Didn't call anyone disgusting, didn't make any judgement of any kind really. He just expressed a preference not to be in a relationship with a smoker.
As for the ANTZ thing, yeah i agree with you, anyone who thinks " smokers are disgusting " is most likely an ANTZ, i just didn't think it appropriate in this case. I do think the acronym has become a little stale with overuse though, in general. it really doesn't mean what it used to, to me anyway.
What is this "ANTZ" you all keep mentioning? Seriously I've heard this in a few other threads as well. What is it? Slang for something?
My gut reaction is to say "no I wouldn't" however that gut reaction made me take a step back and realize that if my Wife had been of the same mindset as me then we would have never started dating because I was a smoker at the time we met and I continued to smoke for over 10 years after that even though she was VERY opposed to me doing so. Now that we've been together 15 years I couldn't imagine my life without Her, so I'm eternally grateful that she was able to see past the disgusting habit to who I was. Now I'm sitting here judging myself over a hypothetical question to decide if I'm as good of a person as I need to be.
Yeah, smoking is disgusting and all...but some times you have to enter your discomfort zone to find what you've been searching for.
Yeah, smoking is disgusting and all...but some times you have to enter your discomfort zone to find what you've been searching for.
I don't want to beat the horse to death. I see where my position could be, and has been, taken out of context. The point I was trying to make to the OP is that exclusion based on one characteristic is discriminatory and prejudicial. It would be like me saying I won't talk to anyone from Staten Island unless they move to Seattle where I live, 'cause I think it's better here.
Does that help add a little context?I'm sure some people think so, but keep in mind that some people also think that vaping is disgusting, and others think that eating meat is disgusting. So it seems to me that what constitutes "disgusting" is a rather personal and subjective thing.
Yeah it gives it a little context i suppose, but we will have to agree to disagree. If i chose not to date someone, anyone really, because they do something that i find annoying, or makes me uncomfortable, i don't see it as being prejudiced. I just see it as a choice i am making. Not talking to someone and not dating them .... clearly not the same thing.I don't want to beat the horse to death. I see where my position could be, and has been, taken out of context. The point I was trying to make to the OP is that exclusion based on one characteristic is discriminatory and prejudicial. It would be like me saying I won't talk to anyone from Staten Island unless they move to Seattle where I live, 'cause I think it's better here.
As for the move from S.I to Seattle, i have made it already ! Been in Seattle for a couple of months now. Jury is still out whether " it's better here "
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Thank you! Well, that doesn't sound too cool now does it?
Oh surely you know the ones - when you used to whip out a cigarette and were still looking for a light, they started coughing and fanning the air.........
From you, I can take having a difference of opinion and leaving it at that.
I've been to worse places than around here. You have to wait until the first time it snows around here. You will be absolutely gobsmacked as a NY'er as to how we react to it. 2" on the ground and it's Snow-pocalypse!As for the move from S.I to Seattle, i have made it already ! Been in Seattle for a couple of months now. Jury is still out whether " it's better here "
I'm a native Utahan, so I have the privilege of knowing what real snow is. It's been a tense few days here on ECF, since the " Harvard Study "From you, I can take having a difference of opinion and leaving it at that.
I've been to worse places than around here. You have to wait until the first time it snows around here. You will be absolutely gobsmacked as a NY'er as to how we react to it. 2" on the ground and it's Snow-pocalypse!
It's had an impact that previous anti-vape " studies " haven't. It has impacted seemingly unrelated threads as well. Oh, i've been to a lot worse places than Seattle as well !
I would not date a smoker. And when I was a smoker, I completely understood why some women wouldn't date me for being a smoker. I hate everything about smoking so much. I just couldn't do it.
Well, in it's "over-used" form, it seems to have come to mean anybody who doesn't agree with you.
Just remember, the anti smoking campaigners are what made smokers into pariahs, and the same broad brush is being applied to ecigs, and the banners banned smoking in parks, beaches, many public places....and even in some apartment complexes, etc. and now the same things will be applied to ecigs.
This is what happens when extremists, of any sort, decide they don't like something, are allergic to something, don't like a smell or something makes them cough, or gives them headaches, etc. Extremists will go to the ends of the earth to make sure that what THEY don't like is banished from sight and from their communities because they don't like something.
I don't like the smell of smoke now, but I do try to just remove myself from smokey areas....I don't bash smokers because it wasnt' THAT long ago that I was doing it, and doing it for 20 years, and never considered myself someone with leprosy or something. As vapers, we "switched", but we have to, IMHO, still have the same compassion and understanding for smokers because we were all there once and walked in those shoes.
What if vaping had NOT come along? I wonder how many people here would still be smoking full time?
Probably a whole lot.
That in no way means I want to date a smoker. Although I've dated people who were over weight and stuff like that, and they were able to change and get fit with a healthier lifestyle. I think we are all "on inventory" to one another. That is how I always see relationships. We learn from others. I would say I would not date a smoker who had no interest in possibly improving their health? Of course, I would never date anyone who wasn't OPEN MINDED in the first place, or somebody who never wanted to embark on any self improvement, cuz we can all improve.
I look back and think about who taught me how to use a darkroom; who taught me how to fish in the ocean; who taught me to play guitar, who taught me to cook and bake. Alll these things were GIFTS from others to me.
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