Yes I still Smoke Cigarettes and I am addicted to the smoking habit - support and chat thread.

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Karen N Daytona

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Congrats to you Karen, on your upcoming Christmas present! I really don't know much, but I DO know that I love my one mini pro-tank and my one protank-2 also. Again, I'm so new that I don't know how seriously to take warnings about some juices cracking plastic tanks, but, in my view, glass tanks have just got to be a better idea. I love mine and I think you made a great choice for your Christmas present!

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Happy Sunday to everyone and welcome to all of the new people I see. :)
Karen I'm so sorry you lost your vv v3 but happy that you bought yourself a present.

Shari if you are around, my 510's are supposed to be here tomorrow, hopefully the two drip tips I have will fit them, do you take the drip tip off to put the drops in? I'm not kidding when I say I know absolutely nothing about dripping. I do have a page that tells how one person does it bookmarked but I'm sure I will still have questions.

I have a coil jig on the way and still have to find kanthal to order and organic cotton, may go to Walgreens today and see if i can find some. I'm anxious to try dripping and see just what I've been missing flavor wise and whether I want just a straight dripper or a tank of some kind. I will try to build new coils for the ProTank and see if the flavor is as much better as everyone says, if not then it can go bye bye as far as I'm concerned. Yep I'm preparing to do all of the things I said I had no interest in learning how to do. LOL


I'm pretty sure that I want something that the atty doesn't sit in as I have some juices that are great at the beginning of a tank but as time goes on they get darker and darker until they are nearly black and not tasting very good. I am thinking that heating the whole tank full over and over is not a good thing. I do like my Aspires, but I am finding the heads don't last very long before they start to taste nasty, I'm going to try cleaning them with denture cleaner and see how that works out, but this is a huge disappointment.
 

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Hi and welcome to the thread. I am surprised at it, but yes, I do agree with you. I DO like vaping better than smoking. I was talking to a family member today and it is all about the ritual and the hand to mouth thing. The act of doing something. And doing something pleasurable.

Hang out for a while and chat. We are a chatty bunch.

Well, so much for that idea then :( With the discussion about the possibly additionally-addictive effect of additives, the idea occurred to me. It's an interesting subject though, because honestly I have never met a person LESS likely than me to quit.

I don't think anybody can ever be certain that they've quit for life, I guess, until they've quit for a long long time, many many years I suppose. BUT, I know myself and I know how I've felt in the past when for whatever reason, I didn't smoke for long periods of time. It was NEVER from a focused effort to quit -- it was because I was really sick or whatever (ruptured appendix, in the hospital for a long time, really long recovery). But from those experiences, I know that I never INTENDED to quit, just did because of circumstances, and the minute I felt better, I picked them up again.

Now, with vaping as an option though, I feel so completely differently about smoking that I sincerely doubt that I would ever pick them up again. I simply, purely, honestly, like vaping better. For me, it's really not all about the nicotine. I've often decreased or stopped nicotine intake without any really serious effects. In quitting smoking, I knew that the nicotine part of the habit was not, for me, the big deal.

It's about the habit, the hand-to-mouth, the "culture", maybe? VAPING stuff is more appealing to me than cigarette stuff was. I like variety, I like colors and flavors and choices ... so in capturing my appreciation of those things, vaping has surpassed cigarette smoking with its appeal. For me.
 

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Happy Sunday to everyone and welcome to all of the new people I see. :)
Karen I'm so sorry you lost your vv v3 but happy that you bought yourself a present.

Shari if you are around, my 510's are supposed to be here tomorrow, hopefully the two drip tips I have will fit them, do you take the drip tip off to put the drops in? I'm not kidding when I say I know absolutely nothing about dripping. I do have a page that tells how one person does it bookmarked but I'm sure I will still have questions.

I am incredibly lazy; I drip through the tip. A lot of people will remove the tip to drip. It does not matter, it is what you get used to and for me, with a wide mouth drip tip, I just prefer to drip through the tip. I use cheap delrin tips mostly.

I have a coil jig on the way and still have to find kanthal to order and organic cotton, may go to Walgreens today and see if i can find some. I'm anxious to try dripping and see just what I've been missing flavor wise and whether I want just a straight dripper or a tank of some kind. I will try to build new coils for the ProTank and see if the flavor is as much better as everyone says, if not then it can go bye bye as far as I'm concerned. Yep I'm preparing to do all of the things I said I had no interest in learning how to do. LOL

What is a coil jig and can you post a link? I have been reading about micro coils. They supposedly last for weeks with only changing the cotton out. That might be something I would try building. How exciting for you to start rebuilding. You should be good at it.

I'm pretty sure that I want something that the atty doesn't sit in as I have some juices that are great at the beginning of a tank but as time goes on they get darker and darker until they are nearly black and not tasting very good. I am thinking that heating the whole tank full over and over is not a good thing. I do like my Aspires, but I am finding the heads don't last very long before they start to taste nasty, I'm going to try cleaning them with denture cleaner and see how that works out, but this is a huge disappointment.

I have read about several people having trouble with vaping the darker, sweeter juices in the tanks. And read about juices getting 'cooked' and quickly gunked coils. It also happens a lot with the net tobbaccos too. Those Aspires are all the rage right now. From what I read the life of the heads tends to fluctuate wildly. If I interpret it right, they seem to work better with the lighter, clearer liquids. At least lifespan wise. I do not know if anyone has figured out how to rebuild those heads yet. They are running a lot of coops for the heads lately. Another is starting up real soon; if you are interested I can post a link. It will be a quick one.
 

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It's a thing that a guy is making that uses a metal rod and a plastic picture hanger thingy that makes it way way easier for people with less dexterity to make their own coils. Several people have been able to successfully make coils who have some physical problems, one lady with MS and another who has very shakey hands, I'm going to give it a try and see if I can do it too. It's a guy on one of the Nickoticket forums. It's not something he is selling, he's just making them for some of the forum members out of the kindness of his own heart and only charging postage. I've been a little hesitant to mention it outside that forum because I would hate to see him inundated with requests, but they are apparently easy to make with things you can easily get at Walmart. You get the wire all situated on the jig and then a few spins of the plastic piece and viola a nice coil.

I'm still trying to get myself all set in case of the vapocolypse, most I've talked to think there is a possibility of some period of time when we may not be able to buy stuff, although they believe it will be fairly short lived and all will return to normal. I don't know what to believe but I don't want to take too many chances since I am finally starting to feel like a human being again and I sure have no plans to go back to cigs.

Coil jig? Like a drill bit?
 

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Yep, but I'm finding it happening with my light colored sweet juices, and for me to be satisfying the juice has to be sweet. As far as I know no one has figured out how to rebuild the heads yet, but I'm not going to toss any just in case. I haven't had any actually die yet, just start to taste nasty after about 3 or 4 tanks of juice, so I'm going to try cleaning them with the Efferdent and see how that works out. I know the coils on the T3S that I cleaned that way came out nice and clean so we'll see how it works on these.

At this point I don't think I want to get involved with the coops, I know I end up spending more but the coops are such a pain I just don't have that kind of patience, if they could use Paypal I probably would reconsider, but I'm not setting up another payment system and money orders are a pain that I just don't want to mess with.
I'm probably going to end up dripping for the most part anyway, I expect to like it. :)

I have read about several people having trouble with vaping the darker, sweeter juices in the tanks. And read about juices getting 'cooked' and quickly gunked coils. It also happens a lot with the net tobbaccos too. Those Aspires are all the rage right now. From what I read the life of the heads tends to fluctuate wildly. If I interpret it right, they seem to work better with the lighter, clearer liquids. At least lifespan wise. I do not know if anyone has figured out how to rebuild those heads yet. They are running a lot of coops for the heads lately. Another is starting up real soon; if you are interested I can post a link. It will be a quick one.
 

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One of my issues with Aspires is they don't use Kanger heads and I'm loaded with Kanger heads. And Nova heads. The idea of introducing another line to keep track of is overwhelming at this point.

I've got a 3 tier makeup case for daily stuff. A wicker basket for in use stuff. A box full of ... (not sure) used stuff to be cleaned and another box of flavors and another with Diy stuff. And several bottles in the freezer. It's getting ridiculous. I'm getting a short fuse. NN sent flavorings in those silly conical vials - like what am I supposed to do with those? I don't have a dedicated space for this stuff where I can leave them standing up. I need to break everything down, including the table I use and store it.

I don't live in a mansion. I don't have a dedicated space for even the computer which is why I use a lap top. Computer fits into a bag. That's my organizing. I thought about getting a bag of holding for vape gear - but not leaky conical vials. Now I have to go and get bottles to transfer it into. I need to set up for a week to 2 weeks at a time because I tend to live between 2 cities. I am a bit ticked about the vials. They are fine for mixing, not storage.

Some co-ops do use paypal.
 
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I agree the juice in the tank gets cooked and the flavor changes. So, if you change ecigs or tanks often. you should rethink a tank. The only reason to use a large tank is if you go out with only one tank and device and don't want to be bothered with taking a spare juice. I bought the smaller Protank 2 to avoid the problem. I would have to refill it everyday even with switching flavors. I was thinking of going back to either Nano's which are very small throw away clearos or something like it. Nothing more than 1.6 mil in size. I came to like the bottom coils better but the top coil choices are usually less money.CE4S, CE4+ and CE6 really all just top coil replaceable coils.
 

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The cooking isn't happening in the Aspires, but they go through heads so quickly that it isn't very practical. If cleaning them with the denture cleaner works it won't really be a problem, I just haven't tried it yet.
I only have two big tanks, a PT and the IClear 30S, I don't use the PT at all because the flavor is so muted I just don't enjoy it. I will try making my own coils and rewicking before I make up my mind for sure on them. The same problem for me with the T3S muted flavor and gurgling, a pain, but I will try making coils for them too and rewicking and see if I can solve that one. Might as well try since I already have them sitting idle. As much as I switch between flavors I really think dripping is going to end up my at home choice and probably going to get and Igo L for that since it is pretty easy to make coils for and gets great reviews.
I am thinking about trying an Aurora BFT for out and about though, it looks very very interesting.

I'm hopeless, I wonder if I was a Raven or Mynah bird in a past life as easily as I become fascinated by shiny objects. LOL

I agree the juice in the tank gets cooked and the flavor changes. So, if you change ecigs or tanks often. you should rethink a tank. The only reason to use a large tank is if you go out with only one tank and device and don't want to be bothered with taking a spare juice. I bought the smaller Protank 2 to avoid the problem. I would have to refill it everyday even with switching flavors. I was thinking of going back to either Nano's which are very small throw away clearos or something like it. Nothing more than 1.6 mil in size. I came to like the bottom coils better but the top coil choices are usually less money.CE4S, CE4+ and CE6 really all just top coil replaceable coils.
 

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This might work for you aik. The one we bought had the 2 smaller Plano boxes for the side panel openings - you could easily customize some foam in there to hold your bottles upright when stored :)

We have rebuildable supplies and currently unused rebuildables in one of the larger pullout boxes and meter, ekowool, etc in the top portion that opens up too.
 

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Another take on that, and I know many don't agree with me, but trade agreements control a lot of the marketplace and I know tobacco (ecigs) are included in the TPP that's being negotiated in secret right now. I know the EU committee of science/medical pros recomended no regulation right now and then the legislative body came out with regulations - reading them, they are pretty stiff. Single use cartridges (no DIY) only was one. What happened? I'll lay you odds that these regulations are in the TPP. They trump domestic laws. Not even a President can go against an int'l trade agreement. Supreme Court sides with int'l agreements. This was how the whole world got stuck with region coding etc.

Basically if you want the "wish" list, read up on what the EU is trying to pass right now. I'll lay money on that being very similar to what the FDA is going to be pressured to pass as well. The only way I know of to stop trade agreements is pressure / out rage from the public. Every voice counts. Even with deeming, there's still a window before it goes into effect which can be a good 6 months to 2 years. So it's not something that will go into effect overnight. There will be appeals.

That is if they choose to play by the rules and sometimes they don't. SOPA was an example. It failed and the DOJ pretended like it passed anyway. People don't have a private right of action against federal regulations and there's not much that can be done if there are no rules. CC purchases and Chinese shipments can be cut very easily. Another example was PACT. That shut down over 4,000 small vendors in the RYO business not too long ago. The reason given was that RYO was a "loophole evading taxes".

Also remember Lox saying there's a number of people on stock pilling nic and other things. So stuff will still be available. It's the people who haven't switched to vaping that will be harmed the most. Anyone able to stockpile, I'm sure is welcome to do that. Don't throw even a 510 connection from a dead mod away.

I'd like to see more vendors open up to Popmoney and Dowolla. They are worth investigating.


It's a thing that a guy is making that uses a metal rod and a plastic picture hanger thingy that makes it way way easier for people with less dexterity to make their own coils. Several people have been able to successfully make coils who have some physical problems, one lady with MS and another who has very shakey hands, I'm going to give it a try and see if I can do it too. It's a guy on one of the Nickoticket forums. It's not something he is selling, he's just making them for some of the forum members out of the kindness of his own heart and only charging postage. I've been a little hesitant to mention it outside that forum because I would hate to see him inundated with requests, but they are apparently easy to make with things you can easily get at Walmart. You get the wire all situated on the jig and then a few spins of the plastic piece and viola a nice coil.

I'm still trying to get myself all set in case of the vapocolypse, most I've talked to think there is a possibility of some period of time when we may not be able to buy stuff, although they believe it will be fairly short lived and all will return to normal. I don't know what to believe but I don't want to take too many chances since I am finally starting to feel like a human being again and I sure have no plans to go back to cigs.
 
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Another take on that, and I know many don't agree with me, but trade agreements control a lot of the marketplace and I know tobacco (ecigs) are included in the TPP that's being negotiated in secret right now. I know the EU committee of science/medical pros recomended no regulation right now and then the legislative body came out with regulations - reading them, they are pretty stiff. Single use cartridges (no DIY) only was one. What happened? I'll lay you odds that these regulations are in the TPP. They trump domestic laws. Not even a President can go against an int'l trade agreement. Supreme Court sides with int'l agreements. This was how the whole world got stuck with region coding etc.

Basically if you want the "wish" list, read up on what the EU is trying to pass right now. I'll lay money on that being very similar to what the FDA is going to be pressured to pass as well. The only way I know of to stop trade agreements is pressure / out rage from the public. Every voice counts. Even with deeming, there's still a window before it goes into effect which can be a good 6 months to 2 years. So it's not something that will go into effect overnight. There will be appeals.

That is if they choose to play by the rules and sometimes they don't. SOPA was an example. It failed and the DOJ pretended like it passed anyway. People don't have a private right of action against federal regulations and there's not much that can be done if there are no rules. CC purchases and Chinese shipments can be cut very easily. Another example was PACT. That shut down over 4,000 small vendors in the RYO business not too long ago. The reason given was that RYO was a "loophole evading taxes".

Also remember Lox saying there's a number of people on stock pilling nic and other things. So stuff will still be available. It's the people who haven't switched to vaping that will be harmed the most. Anyone able to stockpile, I'm sure is welcome to do that. Don't throw even a 510 connection from a dead mod away.

I'd like to see more vendors open up to Popmoney and Dowolla. They are worth investigating.



I can still get RYO here locally, I just have to have the machine, which they sell in the store and the tubes easily available and the "pipe Tobacco"
If I could stock upon e-cig supplies, I would, I am worried about it, I will have to go back to full time smoking if can't get supplies. I hate the thought of it. If I had cash now, I would buy 2 RDA's and 1 RBA and a few easy to re-coil T3S or bcc's, I did get a few flavors to mix DIY and experimented, everything came out really bad so far. I think I need a few 3,5,and 10 ml plunger needles, flask and cylinder. and of course Nic and Base. I hope that I can do the DIY eventually. I am more confident that if I can wrap the wire correctly, will be able to do the coils, Other than the "coil jig" that Cluadia found, I have seen jewelry making tools that do the same thing they aren't too expensive.
I also want a couple of mechanical mods and or things like this that have the smaller form factor and aren't too heavy Cool Fire 1 « uniquecigs.com uniquecigs.com or another smok zmax mini would be ok. I wish that the VVv3 had replacement batteries.
 

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Plano Angled Tackle System
Amazon.com: Plano Angled Tackle System: Sports & Outdoors

This might work for you aik. The one we bought had the 2 smaller Plano boxes for the side panel openings - you could easily customize some foam in there to hold your bottles upright when stored :)

We have rebuildable supplies and currently unused rebuildables in one of the larger pullout boxes and meter, ekowool, etc in the top portion that opens up too.

I'm a master with foam board construction. LOL! My issue with tackle boxes are those stupid plastic handles that break with any weight. The hard stuff to store is the tall stuff. I destroyed several in record time with art supplies. I may take another look. This is way too sprawling.

Another issue might be this "dry heat" kills plastic and rubber. I think rubber bands last one week here before they die.

I think I need this: http://www.harborfreight.com/eight-drawer-wood-tool-chest-94538.html
 
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I'm a master with foam board construction. LOL! My issue with tackle boxes are those stupid plastic handles that break with any weight. The hard stuff to store is the tall stuff. I destroyed several in record time with art supplies. I may take another look. This is way too sprawling.

Another issue might be this "dry heat" kills plastic and rubber. I think rubber bands last one week here before they die.

I think I need this: http://www.harborfreight.com/eight-drawer-wood-tool-chest-94538.html

good one! In my house, it would probably warp a little from humidity, but it would be a while. I like that
 

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That wood tool chest is really lovely. It would probably look good in the room, much nicer than the tackle boxes. The drawers look real shallow though. Does not look deep enough to store any juices upright. Lovely though.

I'm a master with foam board construction. LOL! My issue with tackle boxes are those stupid plastic handles that break with any weight. The hard stuff to store is the tall stuff. I destroyed several in record time with art supplies. I may take another look. This is way too sprawling.

Another issue might be this "dry heat" kills plastic and rubber. I think rubber bands last one week here before they die.

I think I need this: http://www.harborfreight.com/eight-drawer-wood-tool-chest-94538.html
 

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freestanding jewelry armoire might work too, Or something large for cosmetics I am leaning toward the armoire style for my bedroom. They aren't cheap so I will do thrift shops for one eventually

I have a large freestanding jewelry armoire. It would work perfect. You may have to gut the ring holder drawer, but it would be perfect and the bottom compartment is usually pretty large and tall. Good call. And I bet you can find them pretty cheap at yard sales and thrift shops.
 

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I really want about 4 or 5 of them. 1 for vape gear (people can put up o 30ml bottles on top) 2 art supplies/ water color and pastels (or just pastels) 3 jewelry supplies 4 jewelry. I'm bad. My fear about using it for vape supplies is that I have this theory that nature abhors a void and I'd fill it up. Ever clean out a closet and notice how fast it fills up again? Yup.

BTW: I'm trying to simplify. But that's a sweet chest. I really like the front dropping down and making sort of a work counter (sigh).

Karen; I'm hoping your getting some funds soon. Yes, SOME bills need paying, but pay yourself first.
 
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