Yes I still Smoke Cigarettes and I am addicted to the smoking habit - support and chat thread.

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I liked the last two very much,
Maybe the US doesn't allow because it's one of the only industries in the US that does well, not allowing imports to reduce the money nade here.
Or the content is not something they want to allow, though doesn't RAP have some of that content? Maybe not the mainstream RAP but more of the underground, also groups like Black Eyed Peas in the early years were very political

You mean it's easier and cheaper to legislate the marketplace. I tend to take offense at being told what I should and shouldn't like. About 10 years ago, I could go into Amazon.uk and pay to download music and now I can't. I found one cd I had been looking for in Japan (through GEMM) and it was a $35 shipping charge. That's BS.

Every single one of these musicians has been labled as 'standing up for the people', the poor, democracy (also called socialism/popularism), or anti-war, etc.

The video World Town by M.I.A. got her branded as a 'terrorist' and not allowed entry into the US. She was fighting that and I don't know the outcome, but the song was scrubbed off US versions of the cd. The song used to disappeared off YouTube regularly. It's back. I like M.I.A. because she broke the glass ceiling for female artists.



I keep equating the shenigans the music industry has gone through with the ecig industry. There is no lengths to extreme to monopolize the market.

70% of new music is outside of RIAA/MPA. According to their website, 90% of "legitimate" music belongs to them. They don't count any music outside of the 6 companies they represent. The DOJ is staffed with 9 out of 11 ex-MAFIAA attorneys. Every independent study disagrees and they ignore them. The music industry has never been healthier. Using false facts and figures the MAFIAA have shuttered legitimate business' and industries that make the ecig industry look like a drop in the ocean. This includes regularly pulling down entire domains hosting legitimate business. The MegaUpload case is a joke, will never get to trial and clearly obvious no attorney looked at the charges before enlisting SWAT teams (for white collar crime? Imagine if YouTube had been handled that way). Then they had to falsify something since SOPA had failed 24 hrs before the attack and Dot.com isn't even a likeable character. MegaUpload was one month away from going public with a new distribution system that included a lot of "A" list stars from UMG had signed onto. The racketeering charge is based on a $180k ad buy. That was a multi million dollar business taken down without any due process or facts or laws. Some of the most damage was done through payment gateways against "legit" buisness'.

I have to use a VPN to access legit data storage sites. The FBI thinks VPN's should be illegal. I've had a backup drive die 4 days before my primary drive. The only thing that saved my a** was I had also backed it up to the web, including copyrighted data which was not shared and that's illegal now even though it's proveable it wasn't shared and I paid a monthly fee. That is stupid.

I can guarentee you that 96 out of Billboard's top 100 for 2013 are never, ever requested on the internet. The most popular online are never, ever heard on the radio or tv. Call what you want. I've never seen such a huge divide between what corporate 1% produce and what 99% of the population want to listen to. People will make music and art whether they are paid for it or not just because they LOVE it and LOVE to do it.
 
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All of my online backup data is double encrypted, one of wich is my own encryption that theoretically should take eternity to decrypt without my starting key.

Lox, just got the wta in the mail. Waiting till not sick to do anything ecig. Sneezing too much now

That's an option. My internet is too poor to do that now. Maybe in the future. I also run the risk of the upload site disapearing without reason too.

I found plain, unflavored WTA to be soothing when I got sick. I didn't do lung inhales though. Of course, that's subjective.
 

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Ahh, you folks are awesome. PROLIFIC! My bad, for not checking in daily, but oh my goodness, I DO speed-read and it still takes me a pretty long time to catch up.

I wanted to thank those that talked about their experiences with mental illness. I felt pretty far out on a wire when I talked about my son, so THANK you for sharing your stories too. I'm fortunate that my son's condition is not as severe as it could be, that he does not experience auditory and visual hallucinations. That's why the docs have had such a hard time with him though, he does not fit well into any of the categories, but gosh before he got onto his current round of medications, he was in horrible shape. Talking in rhyme, believing in magical numbers and signals, taping knives to his arms to prop himself up while pulling all-nighters on the computer. Also suicidal ideation, being unable to eat for weeks at a time, all sorts of perceived ailments (he went from 190lbs to 135lbs) before we (the family) had him forcibly taken to a mental hospital by the police. Hard stuff. He is much much more functional now, but his thought systems are still way off. He has applied for disability, but has been denied so far. He's on his final appeal.

My 3rd husband had some sort of horrible mental illness as well. He was a Vietnam vet, told me that he had been discharged on a medical because of the trauma during the war - he had been a sniper - but as time went on I learned that he had had drastic problems even before he entered the military. I found out too that he had actually been dishonorably discharged. All of this trying to figure him out happened when after 6 months of marriage he started doing really really strange stuff, like having strangers present in our house when I'd get home from work, that he had promised could sleep with me. Nightmare. I finally ran away one night after he inexplicably released my throat after having grabbed it, and went off down the hall to load a gun instead. At which moment I snapped to, and realized "HELLLLLL!!!! RUNNNNN!!!" Scariest seconds of my life as I ran out the front door to my car, knowing that he had been a SNIPER, and thinking 'gogogogogogo!' I made it out. My car was faster than his, and I drove all the way to mommy's house 2 states away.

Anyway though, point is, and I know we've all met them, known them, seen them at work and wherever -- I think there are a LOT more people with serious mental problems and issues, clinical ones, than people generally think there are out there. A really REALLY good reason to NOT date! heck with that! Better to stay inside, yikes!

Then you guys were talking about how we started vaping -- mine is still in starting stages but I've been lucky -- so far, 2 months, no urge to smoke cigarettes. Vaping works for me just fine. Main reason I think I am staying off cigarettes is that I know that if I have them, I smoke them ALL, and then I would get aggravated WHEN I can't afford to buy more, and I know I can't. So it has pretty well seeped into my brain that cigarettes are just not an option for me ... so far, so good.

And again, thanks for all the great music!
 

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Worst case scenario. . Make a bunch of Google accounts. Compress your data and split into chunks just smaller than Google drive lets you store for free. . Then email yourself a list of the account usernames and passwords. One way to do it. I have a lot of ways to do things, just not always the most efficient.

Will try the wta but afraid it will hurt too. Odd thing is my ecig hurts, but my ultrasonic humidifier doesn't hurt if I inhale that vapor.
 

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I've talked about this with a few others, which doesn't mean it's going to work for you or have any truth to it. But regular cigs have stuff in them to numb your throat and lungs so you don't notice how irritating it is. When I get sick it's easier to smoke a real cig for that reason (IMO). I found unflavored WTA was imbetween the two, but much more comfortable vaping. I think some of the missing alkaloids that are present in WTA also numb the throat a bit. Like I said, just a thought.

PS I'm looking to backup at least 1TB.
 

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Provaris on the Provape page in color both sizes are now back on clearance. Starting at $149 for a pink one. Just an FYI for those that are interested.
I still haven't gotten mine yet, It hasn't shipped. They (Not Provape, another vendor) said that on Monday they would ship and send a tracking #. Since it's contest, I just have to wait and be happy. :( I can be patient just not as happy as they would like. Is that bad? Maybe, I am human, many flaws.
 

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Ahh, you folks are awesome. PROLIFIC! My bad, for not checking in daily, but oh my goodness, I DO speed-read and it still takes me a pretty long time to catch up.

I wanted to thank those that talked about their experiences with mental illness. I felt pretty far out on a wire when I talked about my son, so THANK you for sharing your stories too. I'm fortunate that my son's condition is not as severe as it could be, that he does not experience auditory and visual hallucinations. That's why the docs have had such a hard time with him though, he does not fit well into any of the categories, but gosh before he got onto his current round of medications, he was in horrible shape. Talking in rhyme, believing in magical numbers and signals, taping knives to his arms to prop himself up while pulling all-nighters on the computer. Also suicidal ideation, being unable to eat for weeks at a time, all sorts of perceived ailments (he went from 190lbs to 135lbs) before we (the family) had him forcibly taken to a mental hospital by the police. Hard stuff. He is much much more functional now, but his thought systems are still way off. He has applied for disability, but has been denied so far. He's on his final appeal.

My 3rd husband had some sort of horrible mental illness as well. He was a Vietnam vet, told me that he had been discharged on a medical because of the trauma during the war - he had been a sniper - but as time went on I learned that he had had drastic problems even before he entered the military. I found out too that he had actually been dishonorably discharged. All of this trying to figure him out happened when after 6 months of marriage he started doing really really strange stuff, like having strangers present in our house when I'd get home from work, that he had promised could sleep with me. Nightmare. I finally ran away one night after he inexplicably released my throat after having grabbed it, and went off down the hall to load a gun instead. At which moment I snapped to, and realized "HELLLLLL!!!! RUNNNNN!!!" Scariest seconds of my life as I ran out the front door to my car, knowing that he had been a SNIPER, and thinking 'gogogogogogo!' I made it out. My car was faster than his, and I drove all the way to mommy's house 2 states away.

Anyway though, point is, and I know we've all met them, known them, seen them at work and wherever -- I think there are a LOT more people with serious mental problems and issues, clinical ones, than people generally think there are out there. A really REALLY good reason to NOT date! heck with that! Better to stay inside, yikes!

Then you guys were talking about how we started vaping -- mine is still in starting stages but I've been lucky -- so far, 2 months, no urge to smoke cigarettes. Vaping works for me just fine. Main reason I think I am staying off cigarettes is that I know that if I have them, I smoke them ALL, and then I would get aggravated WHEN I can't afford to buy more, and I know I can't. So it has pretty well seeped into my brain that cigarettes are just not an option for me ... so far, so good.

And again, thanks for all the great music!

I know that feeling about buying more cigs, I still have about a 6 month supply of RYO tobacco and tubes. Actually lasting longer than I calculated originally. Thank God!
 

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saw this today!
 

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I've never tried WTA and surprisingly haven't felt the need. I'm surprised at that since I smoked for over 42 years and eventually became a 3+ pack a day smoker. I never thought I could quit, but here I am smoke-free for a little over 6 months. I still have the occasional twinge of wanting a cigarette but it's just a fleeting thing, not an actual craving.
 

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im cured! im able to vape again. went to take a tentative puff and it was fine. oh how i have missed you vape in ~3 days. three Loooooooooooooooong days. need a few more days to make sure i can taste fin, then i will test the samples i have been sent.

Thats great! I hope you enjoy vaping tonight! I am vaping coffee flavors tonight what are you all vaping?
 

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I've been vaping my Caramel Cappucino and alternating with my Shade Tobacco. Nomnom.

Watched a movie, now off to dreamland. Maybe I'll remember a dream tonight!

Have a fabulous evening everyone. Tomorrow is my last free day, boohoo, have to go to bed early and wake up early Monday. Better get the crying over with now, there's work to be done. . .
 

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I love Banana Vapes and Peanut butter, I will eventually have to try that Shmuffer Shmutter and Banana Banyan. Deadly Sin is already on my list to try.
The coffee flavor I am vaping is Virgin Vapor Kona Milkshake, I don't love it. it's just ok. Maybe I need to make it sweeter? but it is vapeable
 
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