Yes I still Smoke Cigarettes and I am addicted to the smoking habit - support and chat thread.

[Yakone]

Greetings to you as well mdw3258calif. Oh yes, I have so much to learn and I am really looking forward to this adventure. This thread is a great place to start. Look forward to chatting with you. Thanks dropping in to say Hello.

 

[ShariR]

I saw that wire coiling gizmo a while back. I like another one I saw that looks like you can make yourself for virtually nothing. It was a small piece of wood block (part of a 2x4?) with a screw on one end and a drill bit partially drilled into the wood at the other end. You secure one end of the wire around the screw and then make your wraps a couple of inches away on the drill bit. Would not cost much of anything to make one of those. You probably could do it so you could use different size drill bits, just drill different size holes and use the bit you want when making your coil. You could find a small piece of wood like that by the dumpster at Lowe's or Home depot or anywhere a house is being built. A screw costs almost nothing and you do not need a fancy drill bit.

 

[Karen N Daytona]

I saw that wire coiling gizmo a while back. I like another one I saw that looks like you can make yourself for virtually nothing. It was a small piece of wood block (part of a 2x4?) with a screw on one end and a drill bit partially drilled into the wood at the other end. You secure one end of the wire around the screw and then make your wraps a couple of inches away on the drill bit. Would not cost much of anything to make one of those. You probably could do it so you could use different size drill bits, just drill different size holes and use the bit you want when making your coil. You could find a small piece of wood like that by the dumpster at Lowe's or Home depot or anywhere a house is being built. A screw costs almost nothing and you do not need a fancy drill bit.

Claudia got her hands on one of the ones you are talking about. I figured this would be good enough. I got it pretty cheap so I didn't mind trying it, I had seen a youtube with a woman using it to make coils for vaping. Once I can afford the rest of the supplies I will will buy them and learn.

next month, I have to get at least 3-4 clearos, mine are getting older and since the are plastic they will start to show signs of wear and tear, I already cracked three this month. I keep the parts that could come in handy but so far I have more bases than clearos. I keep them in a bead box so they don't get lost. I do buy one clearo a month from fasttech so I am never without. it ships free so for $2.50 or less I feel like I got a gift! LOL Next month I will spend about $8-$10 and get some CE4+ or CE4S which allow for replacement heads, I want to see if that's worth doing, how long they last.

 

[Karen N Daytona]

Well off to bed for me! Good night and Sweet Dreams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Yakone]

Lol! The pros and cons... so stressful! I have just grazed over the subject of dripping. I am just learning about steeping too. I ordered some juices and other paraphernalia. They came yesterday. (I was so excited!) My first real supply. I loaded my CE4s to the top of course ... mmmm I love cherries... YUK! It tasted so awful. Next ... OH MY??? I also should have only ordered sample sizes...dah. The other 3 juices weren't bad though. I dumped them all back into their bottles. I spilled one. What a klutz. They are now sitting in a dark drawer...steeping. Lol. I first learned about steeping from a YouTube video that I watched a few weeks ago. So I am following this girl's advice. She seems quite knowledgeable on the subject. I am hoping the cherry juice improves. I was really looking forward to this one in particular. I did order some flavorings too. One being cherry. I thought I would just spike it up a bit...not. It tasted even worse. Lol. Yes, I have a lot to learn. I ordered 14 different flavorings. I know I am new but I am pretty sure I can learn DIY >>> can't be that hard? If not... hell, I'll just dump all the flavorings into a cake or two... I'm a chef.
Except for the tobacco flavored ones. Cheers mdw3258calif

 

[aikanae1]

WhooHooo 6 MONTHS!

I remember when you first arrived. You were the one that made me not the "newbie" anymore. LOL!
There is no way you would have dreamed you'd be attempting a coil back then. You weren't even too keen on the idea of vape meets. You've come a long way! Congrats and a pat on the back.

I went to the local vape meet tonight in Nashville. Had a ball. It was their 1 year anniversary and my 6 month anniversary so there was quite a crowd. Lots of people walking around with mechs and cartotanks and kayfuns. I met two other ECF members that I run into on other threads and we put our ECF names on our nametags and we found each other. So fun to meet people you talk to here.

LDS taught me how to build a coil for my evod and protank. I arrived armed with my reading glasses AND a lighted magnifying glass that hangs like a necklace. That was the beginning and ending of my evod coil building career. Never again. Everything is way, way too tiny. My fingernails were too long to manipulate the tiny pieces easily and I could not wrap the coil freehand, I did have to use a drill bit. The coil was wrapped with 30ga 7 or 8 wraps and the Peaches & Cream yarn used as a wick. The thing read out at over 3ohms. It fired on my Spinner, I would not put it on my Provari. Lost flavor shortly after and removed flavor wicks. Tried it on Provari to read ohms. No go, was unreadable. So scratch that up to I will buy the coils.

I traded some juice with him and he gave me an RBA dripper clone. Looks like a beehive. He did not know what it was (possible Octopus clone) but thought he got it from Fasttech. The deck and posts look similar to the kayfun with the screws and all and it is bigger than the evod heads so I will practice on it. I need to figure out what gauge wire to get my hands on. I will use cotton balls as wicks. I want to be around 1.8 to 2.2 ohms. Give myself wiggle room.

Lots of fun. Got to talk to several people that are on ECF but not real active. People who watch Pbusardo and Grimmgreen an Todd. Saw a couple of VTRs and a couple of other provari users. Met one of the ladies that I talk to on the Provari threads. So a real good night.

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[Topdogie01]

Shari, something I do when dealing with the wire just before/after cut from the spool is use needle nose pliers, that may help? Unless trying to grab/maneuver the wire is frustrating. .. (trying to wrap a micro coil while keeping a child from unraveling the rest of the spool, with coil cut and partially into the posts is frustrating! )

 

[aikanae1]

Tobacco cake? I hadn't thought of that before. LOL! I'm undecieded which is harder to find, the hardware that works or the adv. I think finding flavors is tougher esp. going for favorites. I did better going for flavors I wasn't as crazy about in food because I think I was less picky about them. Coffee for example. I'd want a sumantra and ended up getting McDonalds. EWWWW! Banana was banana. It's ok if it was fruit like or candy like in a vape. I wasn't as picky about it. And then my tastes changed without warning. I can't believe at one time I actually vaped .... mountain dew?!!! It's gross to me now. I don't care how long it steeps. It's sticky sweet. Another EWWWW that was a mmmm.

The flavor thing is a roller coaster and esp if your a chef, your in for a ride. It was a lot less frustrating for me once I accepted that's the way it is. There is a PIF form for the ones you don't like but don't be so quick to trade them away because in a few months your tonque will grow new buds (that sounds illegal, eh?). You might also look up Zample box. A lot of ppl are liking that for trying new flavors. It's a subscription service. Search for it on ECF.

Lol! The pros and cons... so stressful! I have just grazed over the subject of dripping. I am just learning about steeping too. I ordered some juices and other paraphernalia. They came yesterday. (I was so excited!) My first real supply. I loaded my CE4s to the top of course ... mmmm I love cherries... YUK! It tasted so awful. Next ... OH MY??? I also should have only ordered sample sizes...dah. The other 3 juices weren't bad though. I dumped them all back into the bottle. I spilled one. What a klutz. They are now sitting in a dark drawer...steeping. Lol. I first learned about steeping from a YouTube video that I watched a few weeks ago. So I am following this girl's advice. She seems quite knowledgeable on the subject. I am hoping the cherry juice improves. I was really looking forward to this one in particular. I did order some flavorings too. One being cherry. I thought I would just spike it up a bit...not. It tasted even worse. Lol. Yes, I have a lot to learn. I ordered 14 different flavorings. I know I am new but I am pretty sure I can learn DIY >>> can't be that hard? If not... hell, I'll just dump all the flavorings into a cake or two... I'm a chef.
Except for the tobacco flavored ones. Cheers mdw3258calif

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[aikanae1]

Thank you for that clarification. I did not spend a lot of time reading what was going on, but I got enough of the jist of it to set off alarms and that's why I had to say something. It scared me. Still does.

I don't know if there's really a taboo subject here. I'm a stress smoker and venting stress can be very helpful at times. I think the taboo is not respecting other's opinions or not moving on. By the time a conversation has hit it's 3rd round with nothing new added, it's old already. That's an arguement and time to get a life. I like the fact no one seems to get stuck on one thing.

I know we don't usually discuss politics in this thread, but as it was brought up here, I do wish to vent a bit. As I said on that thread that you mentioned, this is taking things to another level.

What I didn't exactly say on that thread, but am saying here is this would be like encountering someone in person when vaping and them saying, "hey you can't smoke here." And then you reply with "it's not smoke, it's vapor." And then go on to explain, in a cordial, friendly, informative tone that vapor is not smoke. After you do this, they say, "that means its smoke to me. End of discussion." IMO, it is that gross of an error that we are all of the sudden up against, with the law!

And as I did say on that thread, I think it behooves the entire vaping community to challenge this, if for no other reason than to win, the rather simple argument, that vapor is not smoke, while hopefully educating the general public via a very public challenge on this one issue.

I'm not necessarily seeking discussion here on this thread, but really feel like venting as it takes things to another level. Think how many vapers loathe smoking. Then think how many non-vapers loathe smoking. Now take all that loathsome attitude toward smoking and realize we may soon live in a world where vapor = smoking, by definition of the law. If that is the case, game over. Turn in your devices now, as we simply do not stand a chance with that sort of mass deception at work.

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[aikanae1]

You know your addicted if you'll cut your nails to build a coil. LOL!

Karen, you would have laughed at/with me. I was a rocking old lady. I had my reading glasses on and a magnifying glass with an led light on it. I had several of the rebuilder young guys ask me where I got it; they wanted one! It was a gift so I have no idea.

Those evod/protank heads are very tiny. Once you take it apart you have a whole little pile of stuff not much larger than glitter. And I am going to have to cut off my fingernails. Oh, the unjustness of it all! My fingers had a hard time manipulating such tiny parts. The nails would not matter. I need something with a larger deck and not such tiny pieces. But I think I can do it. I have to use a drill bit. I can not wrap freehand at all.

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[Yakone]

hahaha! Good one aikanae1 !

 

[ShariR]

Thank you Aik. I can not believe I have made it without one cigarette this long either. And the not smoking has not been bothering me lately. I thought for sure with the pipe bursting that I would be climbing the walls. Nope. Did not even enter my mind to have a cigarette. Amazing. I tend to think about smoking now when others talk of it, or when I see someone in a movie smoking but it passes quickly.

I have also been lowering my nicotine level down from the 24mg. 18mg is pretty comfortable for me but when I try to vape for more than a day at 12mg I find myself chain vaping and looking for my 24mg juices. But I am moving in the right direction and I have all the time in the world.

I am disappointed that my first attempt at coil building was a complete failure. But that is to be expected I guess. Plus, I do not care what anybody says, and evod or protank head for a first attempt is crazy. That stuff is so tiny. The actuall wrapping of the coil and stick cotton through it is not bad. It is the taking apart something that small and keeping track of all the tiny pieces. And the knowing what to use and what to do.

What gauge wire and why. Standard low # coil or micro coil and why. What to use/do to get a 2 ohm coil. My hands are not steady enough to do a free hand wrap around the wick. I need a needle or drill bit for stabilization. I need to know the why of stuff just not how to do the steps.

I personally do not think it is worth the time and frustration to do those heads. They are cheap enough to replace. The Russian and Kayfun or an Igo-L I think will be worth it. I hope. I am still pretty happy with my 510 attys and have enough of them to last me a while. But have to try to learn to be self sufficient in case of laws and regulations in the near future.

I am quite proud of myself and I do feel like this is a major accomplishment. So thank you.

WhooHooo 6 MONTHS!

I remember when you first arrived. You were the one that made me not the "newbie" anymore. LOL!
There is no way you would have dreamed you'd be attempting a coil back then. You weren't even too keen on the idea of vape meets. You've come a long way! Congrats and a pat on the back.

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[ShariR]

That IS pretty sick. I usually only cut them when I can not longer type or dress myself.

Or they start showing up in the chopped onions.

You know your addicted if you'll cut your nails to build a coil. LOL!

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[aikanae1]

thank you, this is good to know

I'm glad. Sometimes I'm afraid I step on toes when I get into these rants. You may be happy to know I've spent the last 7 hours looking over regulations at CMS and patient protections are returning (slowly) to Medicaid. YEA! I'd say that's 90% of ACA is making sure people get medical care. I'm extremely happy with what I've read. No more blank checks to insurance companies! No wonder some folks are in a snit. There isn't a category for golf. Sweet - even non federal funds (like drug companies and medical equip) have to be reported now. That's great.

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[aikanae1]

That IS pretty sick. I usually only cut them when I can not longer type or dress myself.

Or they start showing up in the chopped onions.

I'm never eating at your house. LOL!

 

[aikanae1]

love ya UNCLE!!!!!!!!!

Right now till my case is decided, I will have Blue Cross HMO under Obama Care, after that either Medicare since I have been waiting over 3 years or Medicaid, I also think it will depend on my monthly SSD. If I am "lucky"to get what I am supposed to get, over $1200 per month, I am not entitled to Medicaid at all. If I am not lucky to get the $1200 than I am. I guess "lucky" is subjective, I have no idea which way it will go.

thanks for all the info I am sure at some point I will need this!

Well, like Uncle said, it can be a challenge to get medical care for breathing with Medicaid. I can understand a private room vs. a ward, but not tiered medical care. Ppl need to breathe! Medicaid is rock bottom care.

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[Yakone]

Tobacco cake. Yes it sounds like a real treat! Probably taste like you're eating a cigarette. mmm. I tried to keep my order basic and simple. I pulled back those reins. Really hard. Just some fruit, caramel, maple, honey and tobacco flavorings. I think you're right and I'm taking you're advice. I am not into vaping anything sickly sweet or candy like. I couldn't imagine vaping a mountain dew flavor or coca cola flavor. At the moment I am looking for a tobacco-y caramel flavor type vape. I found one I am fond of. Now if I can clone the taste, that's another story. I just couldn't resist ordering the cherry though...but I won't again.
I hope it just the kiddie roller coaster aikanae1. Nice to meet you. Thanks for the heads up. Cheers

 

[aikanae1]

There is a thread that focuses on the most popular flavors for 2013 you might find interesting. Heather's Heavenly Vapes took several top awards for tobaccos. There is a thread just discussing tobacco's too. I can never remember the name of it, but there's a chef that does excellent reviews too. Vaping is flavor and if you enjoy flavors, you'll enjoy vaping.

 

[Yakone]

ahhahaha! Great come back ShariR!

 

[Yakone]

Thanks for the lead aikanae1.