Yes I still Smoke Cigarettes and I am addicted to the smoking habit - support and chat thread.

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Karen N Daytona

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That's cheaper than Medicare. I know your better off than if Florida ran Medicaid - higher medical standards anyway. You might be lucky Florida didn't expand. Interesting. Thanks for the info.


It's blue Cross blue shield, I could have gotten a free policy with doctors 67 -75 miles away! and with tax money back at the end of the year! lol
 

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Mdw,

Sorry for being obscure. DS is "Deadly Sin" from Good Life Vapes. I normally hate recommending juices to other people (because I've tried lots that others have recommended that didn't do it for me). Deadly Sin is an exception; at least 90% of those who try it love it, and IMHO I don't know of another juice I've tried that has that rating (Disclosure: Never tried "Boba's Bounty", "Custard's last stand", or many of the other "fanatic" blends).

If I could recommend 2 juices to start with that I've always liked, it would be GLV's Deadly Sin and Hangsen Juicy Peach. I could vape either of these forever.
 

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I just looked at the Oakland / Hayward thread over in the legislative section. There's a therory the FDA has changed tactics since it appears it will take years to get regulations through affecting ecigs. What is happening in CA and I guess Chicago (forgive me, I didn't spend hours discussing or even reading it) is that paid "health reps" (from BP) have figured out ways to get SMALL city councils to quickly pass legislation - in under 4 days. CASAA isn't able to keep up with the flood.

They are passing regulations that vapor is smoke with the intended purpose of adding regs and moritoriums on no more new vape shops and letting them "die" out. There's teens showing up at the meetings pleading to "save their friends". I guess CASAA has updated their website (didn't look at it) and asking ppl to keep their eyes open on local broadcasts and newspapers.

I just read one thread, but sounded plausable plan that BP would come up with. Add restrictions for online sales, uh-oh. Trouble in vapeland. Communities hit seem to be 150k or less population - and that's guessing now. All of this is speculation ONLY. I don't have time to get into it.

My medical care is blocked for all specialists I found out today. I will never get a dx at this rate and I have no rights. No response from my attorney. I don't know if he's even taken me seriously.
 

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It's blue Cross blue shield, I could have gotten a free policy with doctors 67 -75 miles away! and with tax money back at the end of the year! lol

Do not take the cheapest plan. Do not get involved with Medicaid if you can avoid it. Medicaid is basically care in the emergency room and that's about it. Why hasn't anyone questioned why we have 2 tiers of medical care? It may be a streatch to pay for, but you will get value out of it and that's better than paying a penny for no care.

Medicare is at least $100/mth with deductable of $1400 apx. Plus you have 20% copays. There is no low income assistance without Medicaid and Medicaid will restrict you from getting Medicare benefits. It's a cash cow - or a federal money laundering program to get federal funds into the state general fund. Worthless.

You've got a great deal. I suspect a better deal than if Florida had expanded Medicaid.

Medicaid is not required to use medical standards. No appeal rights and no "private right of action" since it's regulations. Powerless.

Private insurance and Medicare HAVE to use medical standards. Appeal rights, attorneys and you can take them to court. That's a big difference in care.

This has been going on for awhile. Tenncare became known for not treating breast cancer because "85% of the people don't have breast cancer". Serious. They won in court not to treat breast cancer in Medicaid.
 
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Thanks everybody, for the input on dripping attys :) All of you, as always, come right back with great info. You are too numerous to name but you know who you are and I 'like-fested' -- gosh, I'm even getting the hang of THAT!

I'll look into the dripper options but sure does sound as though it's pretty easy and inexpensive to give it a beginner's try. Thanks again!
 

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Mdw,
Sorry for being obscure. DS is "Deadly Sin" from Good Life Vapes.....If I could recommend 2 juices to start with that I've always liked, it would be GLV's Deadly Sin and Hangsen Juicy Peach. I could vape either of these forever.

No worries, you weren't being obscure! Thanks for the reply, got it now, and I probably should've guessed that because y'all have been mentioning Deadly Sin a few times. Ooooh I have such a lovely wishlist! Thanks for the help :)
 

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Hey y'all! Wow, take a break for one day and have 4 pages to read. Sorry for the likefest.

I'm making meatloaf and vaping the same old tobacco and cappucino (2 different devices) and needing to pull out the mad scientist lab but way too lazy. Had a headache all day that won't quit. Trying to find something interesting to do but can't settle. Read a little, watch a little tv, read here, switch. Want to sleep but not happening. What a blah day. . .

I'll check back in later, gotta put food in the oven.
 

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ok, I'm doing Mod Envy tonight, I know it can be raunchy but you never know if you might win something!

As for the medicaid in FLorida, I have seen the policies and they aren't too bad here. That said, I have better doctors on this plan that I got than my Roommate gets on Medicaid. he has both medicare and medicaid, that causes a problem, if he wants to use just medicare he has to pay the difference, he can't so, It's hard for him to find specialists. No too many doctors take it. I think it all goes by the state, there is a choice of medicaid plans that you can take if you are on medicaid only. Those are the plans I saw, some are better than others, if you live in South Florida it's horrible, it's better up here

I got him a great Dermatologist, ENT, Allergist, Orthopedist and Neurologist I can't find a good Primary Care Doctor and a Cardialogist Doctor yet. My list has over 162 Primary Care doctors to choose from in my area. Over 1000 Specialists. Finally going to get the care I have been needing I just need the cash to go. I will start with the Primary for $5.00 and go to a Orthopedist since I am always in pain. Maybe his Neurologist, he is a pill guy but maybe he will come up with a reason for all the nerve damage, it's not just Neuropathy. I've had it since I was 18 years old.
 

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ok, I'm doing Mod Envy tonight, I know it can be raunchy but you never know if you might win something!

As for the medicaid in FLorida, I have seen the policies and they aren't too bad here. That said, I have better doctors on this plan that I got than my Roommate gets on Medicaid. he has both medicare and medicaid, that causes a problem, if he wants to use just medicare he has to pay the difference, he can't so, It's hard for him to find specialists. No too many doctors take it. I think it all goes by the state, there is a choice of medicaid plans that you can take if you are on medicaid only. Those are the plans I saw, some are better than others, if you live in South Florida it's horrible, it's better up here

I got him a great Dermatologist, ENT, Allergist, Orthopedist and Neurologist I can't find a good Primary Care Doctor and a Cardialogist Doctor yet. My list has over 162 Primary Care doctors to choose from in my area. Over 1000 Specialists. Finally going to get the care I have been needing I just need the cash to go. I will start with the Primary for $5.00 and go to a Orthopedist since I am always in pain. Maybe his Neurologist, he is a pill guy but maybe he will come up with a reason for all the nerve damage, it's not just Neuropathy. I've had it since I was 18 years old.

Seriously, and I hate to sound myopic and self absorbed, but get your thyroid tested first, before anything else. AND, there are certain tests that you need that most docs pooh-pooh or flat out refuse to do that can determine if you have a problem or not. If you want, I will help you with all of that--you can PM me anytime. Starting there may save you a lot of time, money, and frustration. Even though I was just diagnosed, I saw my mom deal with it for 30 years, and knew I had a problem for 15 even when my docs said I was fine.
 

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ok, I'm doing Mod Envy tonight, I know it can be raunchy but you never know if you might win something!

As for the medicaid in FLorida, I have seen the policies and they aren't too bad here. That said, I have better doctors on this plan that I got than my Roommate gets on Medicaid. he has both medicare and medicaid, that causes a problem, if he wants to use just medicare he has to pay the difference, he can't so, It's hard for him to find specialists. No too many doctors take it. I think it all goes by the state, there is a choice of medicaid plans that you can take if you are on medicaid only. Those are the plans I saw, some are better than others, if you live in South Florida it's horrible, it's better up here

I got him a great Dermatologist, ENT, Allergist, Orthopedist and Neurologist I can't find a good Primary Care Doctor and a Cardialogist Doctor yet. My list has over 162 Primary Care doctors to choose from in my area. Over 1000 Specialists. Finally going to get the care I have been needing I just need the cash to go. I will start with the Primary for $5.00 and go to a Orthopedist since I am always in pain. Maybe his Neurologist, he is a pill guy but maybe he will come up with a reason for all the nerve damage, it's not just Neuropathy. I've had it since I was 18 years old.

Medicaid goes by state. There are hundreds of doctors listed but that doesn't mean they are accepting patients and refferals are needed. No primary, no referral. It's all in the practice. They will not dx anything here even if it's a 300 pound tumor on your shoulder. They will not accept medical records or dx made outside of their network so you have to be born into a plan and stay with them for life. Policies mean nothing when it comes to medical standards. Medicaid does NOT need to follow medical standards. He could have a gun shot and they don't need to dx it. That's the difference between policy and medical care standards or "utilization" or medical necessity or standards of care. They call it a million different things. Medicaid uses M&R which is based on an "insurance standard" and takes into account what 85% of the populations requires. Fall outside of that and it's SOL for you. Medicaid has been that way for over 5 years.

Medicare uses a "medical standard". You can look it up on line. Open and transparent including why some fall into standards and why some may not. Kinda like it should be. You can challenge it too. Appeals need to be decieded by another medical professional and reasons are required. That is not true for Medicaid.

Most states use Medicaid to limit access to Medicare because Medicare is paid via per capita whether care is delivered or not. If you read carrier contracts, there's terms like "rebate", refund, discount, transfer and all that money goes to the state general fund. It is not returned back into the Medicaid program. That's common in all 50 states. They get the state match back. Most state legislators are too stupid to figure that out. But if a state cuts Medicaid, their income drops and state deficit rises. Dumb when they have to balance a budget. None of this is shown on a pie chart. The money is not handed out line item by line item either. It gets sticky and that's already more than most would ever need to know however, Medicaid probably funds more art programs than they do medical care, and duals are the sacrificial population. They are the most voiceless and powerless with a high percentage in institutions.

You want to avoid Medicaid more than the plague.

 

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Medicaid goes by state. There are hundreds of doctors listed but that doesn't mean they are accepting patients and refferals are needed. No primary, no referral. It's all in the practice. They will not dx anything here even if it's a 300 pound tumor on your shoulder. They will not accept medical records or dx made outside of their network so you have to be born into a plan and stay with them for life. Policies mean nothing when it comes to medical standards. Medicaid does NOT need to follow medical standards. He could have a gun shot and they don't need to dx it. That's the difference between policy and medical care standards or "utilization" or medical necessity or standards of care. They call it a million different things. Medicaid uses M&R which is based on an "insurance standard" and takes into account what 85% of the populations requires. Fall outside of that and it's SOL for you. Medicaid has been that way for over 5 years.

Medicare uses a "medical standard". You can look it up on line. Open and transparent including why some fall into standards and why some may not. Kinda like it should be. You can challenge it too. Appeals need to be decieded by another medical professional and reasons are required. That is not true for Medicaid.

Most states use Medicaid to limit access to Medicare because Medicare is paid via per capita whether care is delivered or not. If you read carrier contracts, there's terms like "rebate", refund, discount, transfer and all that money goes to the state general fund. It is not returned back into the Medicaid program. That's common in all 50 states. They get the state match back. Most state legislators are too stupid to figure that out. But if a state cuts Medicaid, their income drops and state deficit rises. Dumb when they have to balance a budget. None of this is shown on a pie chart. The money is not handed out line item by line item either. It gets sticky and that's already more than most would ever need to know however, Medicaid probably funds more art programs than they do medical care, and duals are the sacrificial population. They are the most voiceless and powerless with a high percentage in institutions.

You want to avoid Medicaid more than the plague.


thank you, this is good to know
 

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Ive been having a bad day. Woke up late and child had destroyed the front room after I JUST cleaned it at 7am after I put him to sleep.

Girlfriends dad who comes over every weekend and plays games and takes child out of my hair for a few hours isn't answering his phones. No clue where he is.

Child has found a toy recorder and keeps blowing it in my ear which already hurts.

Out of sugar so can't make tea (this is the most pressing part, abd which nakes the night bad).
 

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Hello there ShariR. Thank you for your encouraging words. Yes it's absolutely psychological, I know. I have been smoking a very long time. That cig is my best friend. I am enjoying my vaping experience so far. However, I am vaping nicotine free. It's illegal here. I haven't quite figured that out yet. I think this is part of the reason I can't quite let go. I need that 'fix' still. I've always liked to linger after a meal too.That one is always the best. Where I am at the moment though, no one smokes and I need to linger out side. I detest that, unless it's Summer. It's freezing here right now. What I've noticed about non-smokers is that they do not linger after a meal. They jump up and they're looking for their next fix. What ever it may be. Thanks for dropping by and saying Hi ShariR :)
 

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Hello there ShariR. Thank you for your encouraging words. Yes it's absolutely psychological, I know. I have been smoking a very long time. That cig is my best friend. I am enjoying my vaping experience so far. However, I am vaping nicotine free. It's illegal here. I haven't quite figured that out yet. I think this is part of the reason I can't quite let go. I need that 'fix' still. I've always liked to linger after a meal too.That one is always the best. Where I am at the moment though, no one smokes and I need to linger out side. I detest that, unless it's Summer. It's freezing here right now. What I've noticed about non-smokers is that they do not linger after a meal. They jump up and they're looking for their next fix. What ever it may be. Thanks for dropping by and saying Hi ShariR :)

Yakone, I am sorry, I missed your first post and didn't welcome you! So my official welcome!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just want to say that you may want to chat with Delores, I think she might be able to help you figure out the nic so that you have a better vaping experience. That could be a game changer for you!
No matter what I wish you success, please keep coming back and sharing, this will help both you and all of us. We find that we all learn so much from each other.
 

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Hello there ShariR. Thank you for your encouraging words. Yes it's absolutely psychological, I know. I have been smoking a very long time. That cig is my best friend. I am enjoying my vaping experience so far. However, I am vaping nicotine free. It's illegal here. I haven't quite figured that out yet. I think this is part of the reason I can't quite let go. I need that 'fix' still. I've always liked to linger after a meal too.That one is always the best. Where I am at the moment though, no one smokes and I need to linger out side. I detest that, unless it's Summer. It's freezing here right now. What I've noticed about non-smokers is that they do not linger after a meal. They jump up and they're looking for their next fix. What ever it may be. Thanks for dropping by and saying Hi ShariR :)

I also missed your first post, Yakone. Welcome, and if there is anything we can help you with just ask, or if you just want to hang out with us, feel free! Dropping to just 4 a day is great, even if you didn't make your New Year's goal--hang in there!
 

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Florida "Medicaid" is now forced "HMO"S (use to be only certain counties - Now the whole state). . .

"Medicaid Options is Florida's Medicaid managed care enrollment program." General Information


Worse part was that I kept having to change plans - I've been through 6 of them in the past 8 years - especially when they changed their formulary and removed the "Drugs" I was being prescriped . . .

AND - Since there are Very Very Few Decent HMO's - I finally found one that has been somewhat helpful and I can get most of "My" major medications that are also Major Named Brands (that help with COPD & Sleep Apnea & Daily Breathing: Spririva {that I first got when I could not afford it using "PPA" previously - see below}, Advair, and Ventoline all cost near/about $1,000.00 a Month) and not have to use the generic since they weren't working . . . The HMO is - "Better Health": Better Health : Member (Which - Now don't quote "Me" - I think is directly run by "Medicaid" . . . Just Sayin' . . . ;) )

For those who NEED "Prescriptions" and cannot afford them Go To and Fill out the online "questionaire" at Partnership for Prescription Assistance: https://www.pparx.org/ . . . They will provide you with all the informatio (who what where & when), the "forms" you will need to send into the "DRUG MANUFACTURERS", along with any other information they will need (BTW: DO NOT ADD Anything Extra - No Extra Income - No Extra Help - The Less You have the more it will work in your favor . . . Especially if "You" DO NOT HAVE ANY INSURANCE . . . Just Sayin' . . ;) )

AND - While there are many more - One Good Resource and Advoctes for Healthcare Consumers: Families USA: The Voice for Health Care Consumers


BTW: Look for a GOOD DOCTOR FIRST - If "You" like them, see what HMO they take and then sign-up for that HMO . . . Saves a lot of trouble . . . Including - after you signup - lettting them pick one for Ya' and THEY WILL ! ! !

Long story short - I had to change Doctors . . Found one I finally wanted - he moved his practice to another facility - no one at his old office suppoedly knew where he was. Friends reconmeded a new "Health Provider" instead - I finally relented, made an appointment after 1 year with no doctor & not doing well - AND who was "My" Doctor - "My" Doctor that I was searching for . . . :thumbs:

I had a different HMO at the time that went under while I am seeing him and the Case manager at this facility suggested the HMO I have now as one that was decent and would allow the prescription I needed . . . Just Sayin' . . . ;)


OH - One More Thing - THANKS EVERYONE - I am learning so much reading "Your" post . . . :thumbs:
 
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love ya UNCLE!!!!!!!!!

Right now till my case is decided, I will have Blue Cross HMO under Obama Care, after that either Medicare since I have been waiting over 3 years or Medicaid, I also think it will depend on my monthly SSD. If I am "lucky"to get what I am supposed to get, over $1200 per month, I am not entitled to Medicaid at all. If I am not lucky to get the $1200 than I am. I guess "lucky" is subjective, I have no idea which way it will go.

thanks for all the info I am sure at some point I will need this!



FYI:


Florida "Medicaid" is now forced "HMO"S (use to be only certain counties - Now the whole state). . .

"Medicaid Options is Florida's Medicaid managed care enrollment program." General Information


Worse part was that I kept having to change plans - I've been through 6 of them in the past 8 years - especially when they changed their formulary and removed the "Drugs" I was being prescriped . . .

AND - Since there are Very Very Few Decent HMO's - I finally found one that has been somewhat helpful and I can get most of "My" major medications that are also Major Named Brands (that help with COPD & Sleep Apnea & Daily Breathing: Spririva {that I first got when I could not afford it using "PPA" previously - see below}, Advair, and Ventoline all cost near/about $1,000.00 a Month) and not have to use the generic since they weren't working . . . The HMO is - "Better Health": Better Health : Member (Which - Now don't quote "Me" - I think is directly run by "Medicaid" . . . Just Sayin' . . . ;) )

For those who NEED "Prescriptions" and cannot afford them Go To and Fill out the online "questionaire" at Partnership for Prescription Assistance: https://www.pparx.org/ . . . They will provide you with all the informatio (who what where & when), the "forms" you will need to send into the "DRUG MANUFACTURERS", along with any other information they will need (BTW: DO NOT ADD Anything Extra - No Extra Income - No Extra Help - The Less You have the more it will work in your favor . . . Especially if "You" DO NOT HAVE ANY INSURANCE . . . Just Sayin' . . ;) )

AND - While there are many more - One Good Resource and Advoctes for Healthcare Consumers: Families USA: The Voice for Health Care Consumers


BTW: Look for a GOOD DOCTOR FIRST - If "You" like them, see what HMO they take and then sign-up for that HMO . . . Saves a lot of trouble . . . Including - after you signup - lettting them pick one for Ya' and THEY WILL ! ! !

Long story short - I had to change Doctors . . Found one I finally wanted - he moved his practice to another facility - no one at his old office suppoedly knew where he was. Friends reconmeded a new "Health Provider" instead - I finally relented, made an appointment after 1 year with no doctor & not doing well - AND who was "My" Doctor - "My" Doctor that I was searching for . . . :thumbs:

I had a different HMO at the time that went under while I am seeing him and the Case manager at this facility suggested the HMO I have now as one that was decent and would allow the prescription I needed . . . Just Sayin' . . . ;)


OH - One More Thing - THANKS EVERYONE - I am learning so much reading "Your" post . . . :thumbs:
 
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