"You can't do that around me, I have asthma!"
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I'd actually like to see an analog free vaping lounge open one day. Probably not nearly mainstream enough though... but hey, it could be a restaraunt as well.
No pg is not the active ingredient in an inhaler, it's a delivery system just like it is in the ecig. either way it's not harmful. Humans are supposed to be smarter than Pavlovs dogs, but I guess they have to look past their pre conceived reactions first. Not the same as a##holes who cough(like I give a crap whether or not what I do effects them) just because they disapprove.
This I'm trying to put forward at my night job, it won't be long till this state bans analogs completely. That and I'm trying to get the bar to sell them so we can make some money
*sniffs sadly*
I was enjoying the conversation.... sorry I was a party pooper....
Forgive me?
Hypnotism supposedly works better on people with higher IQs than lower ones, too... intelligence doesn't always have a lot to do with breaking operant conditioning.
Yes, there is a difference between people who actually do fake it and people who are having psychosomatic "allergies". People with true psychosomatic reactions are not reacting that way intentionally, and sadly pointing out that it's really all in their head doesn't work that well.
I'm pretty sure it's easy to tell the difference, though. A full-blown asthma attack is pretty hard to fake realistically. (Believe me, I've tried -- a la Ferris Bueller's Day Off kinda thing, school was sooo boooring...)
I assume you really don't mean that the way it sounded. But I agree with you completely that those who are doing a "fake cough" reaction irritate the poo out of me.
Not you dear, you're fine
Hey now, keep in mind this thread was started by a woman
I have asthma, and hacking and gagging is not even close to what I do when I have an attack. Hacking gagging is to get .... out, when I have an attack, I want .... in, AIR! During an attack, imagine someone tightening a belt around your chest so you can't fully breath in, then tighten it some more and your having an asthma attack!
The only thing you can possibly do with this women is stay as far away from her as possible. She simply sounds like bad news period!
I can't talk for every ex smoker but I can relate my experience when I was one for a while. I knew if I even had one cigarette likely it would lead to more. Well hey I did smoke one and soon after was back on them. One way I stayed off them was them was I convinced myself that they stank to high heavens, Id cough if I smoked one and in general they was disgusting. Just read through the forums that's the common thought on them with alot of people that moved to vapering.
The mental aspect of a person believing what suggested to them whether from other person or themselves is well documented. I think the big thing is everyone believes themselves to be an unique an special butterfly. The best way to make everyone around you to fall into line with their thinking is to act as "Jerry Springer show" as possible.
I try to be zen about things and not let others upset me, blow it off. Of course I'm also pretty petty and vindictive so while I know arguing against some ones beliefs is useless I find some other way to mess with them and make their lives a living hell
The mental aspect of a person believing what suggested to them whether from other person or themselves is well documented. I think the big thing is everyone believes themselves to be an unique an special butterfly. The best way to make everyone around you to fall into line with their thinking is to act as "Jerry Springer show" as possible.
I try to be zen about things and not let others upset me, blow it off. Of course I'm also pretty petty and vindictive so while I know arguing against some ones beliefs is useless I find some other way to mess with them and make their lives a living hell
@Moriah after like just two of your post I know believe this intelligence left on the internet 
Glad one of the few intelligent people is off cigs and vaping.
Glad one of the few intelligent people is off cigs and vaping.
When I was smoking, I'd sometimes light up on a street corner, waiting for the light to change. I used to laugh when someone standing nearby would glare and make a big show of moving further away. ("Yeah, that's right. Move closer to that bus that's passing and blowing huge plumes of black exhaust into the air. That's much better for you than being near my little cigarette for 5 seconds.)
With PVs, I've been lucky. I haven't tried vaping in a restaurant yet although the other day I pulled it out as I was waiting to get off the bus and absent-mindedly took a puff. No one even commented.
My main place is in the office. Everyone there is very happy for me that I quit and no one has said a word about the occasional wisps of vapor coming from my office. (My sense of smell is just beginning to improve. A friend told me my office still smells like cigarettes and I haven't smoked in there for almost 4 years. That must be me and my clothes -- it's a wonder anyone could stand to be near me.)
With PVs, I've been lucky. I haven't tried vaping in a restaurant yet although the other day I pulled it out as I was waiting to get off the bus and absent-mindedly took a puff. No one even commented.
My main place is in the office. Everyone there is very happy for me that I quit and no one has said a word about the occasional wisps of vapor coming from my office. (My sense of smell is just beginning to improve. A friend told me my office still smells like cigarettes and I haven't smoked in there for almost 4 years. That must be me and my clothes -- it's a wonder anyone could stand to be near me.)
I don't know if every asthmatic has what I do, but for me it is rather weird.... I have to work very hard to *exhale*. If I can get the air out of my lungs, then I can then work hard to inhale... but it's like my lungs clamp down and any air I'm able to get in I can't get back out very easily, and anything I had in my lungs is stuck.
It's really odd.
I think it just comes down to courtesy for others..even though it is just vapor, it does have an odor that some may find bad...
I got my dad an e-cig nbecause my mom was recently diagnosed with COPD and asthma. Now she uses it more than he does! (she was an occasional clove or Galois smoker)
Anyways, she uses a nebulizer with this awful tasting medicine in it. She complained that she can taste the stuff for hours, no matter what she eats or drinks. Now, after a breathing threatment, she vapes clove for a minute or so and the taste of the medicine is gone. She says the e-cig is worth it for that reason alone.
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Anyways, she uses a nebulizer with this awful tasting medicine in it. She complained that she can taste the stuff for hours, no matter what she eats or drinks. Now, after a breathing threatment, she vapes clove for a minute or so and the taste of the medicine is gone. She says the e-cig is worth it for that reason alone.
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Mine is the same as yours can't get air out to take another breath.
Today I decided to experiment a little bit (which is probably terrible, but I didn't think of that til after). With her back turned, I took a quick couple puffs. When she asked what smelled so sweet (I was vaping caramel) I told her it was my ecig. Guess who started to wheeze?
Yeah. That's just obnoxious.
So then I told her "Oh, I found out that one of the ingredients in an inhaler is in the liquid I use." She said that it was more often than not a smell that can trigger her asthma.
So for all of you with asthma - Is that true? Can a particular smell trigger an attack?
Yeah. That's just obnoxious.
So then I told her "Oh, I found out that one of the ingredients in an inhaler is in the liquid I use." She said that it was more often than not a smell that can trigger her asthma.
So for all of you with asthma - Is that true? Can a particular smell trigger an attack?
I think the smell of a trigger is just that, the smell. The smell of something means it's present in some amount. My mom is allergic to cinnamon, and some stores use cinnamon displays at certain times of the years, so she can't visit those stores because the whole place reeks of it. So while in principle smells can trigger asthma, I doubt she is truly having problems from most of the juice you vape.
I'd say it is possible for a certain juice to trigger it because of the smell, in that case just ask her what she is allergic to and don't vape any of that juice around her.
I'd also continue that experiment a little. Keep it non-discreet and try it over a day. but if she honestly shows any asthma symptoms stop. When my mom was working at the hospital, one of the other employees thought it was impossible to be allergic to cinnamon, so she baked a cake with it and told my mom there was NO cinnamon in it. Needless to say she was extremely apologetic and probably could of lost her job/gotten her pants sued off when my mom reacted and had to be taken the emergency room (one floor below thank God). So keep that in mind before/when/if you try that again.
I'd say it is possible for a certain juice to trigger it because of the smell, in that case just ask her what she is allergic to and don't vape any of that juice around her.
I'd also continue that experiment a little. Keep it non-discreet and try it over a day. but if she honestly shows any asthma symptoms stop. When my mom was working at the hospital, one of the other employees thought it was impossible to be allergic to cinnamon, so she baked a cake with it and told my mom there was NO cinnamon in it. Needless to say she was extremely apologetic and probably could of lost her job/gotten her pants sued off when my mom reacted and had to be taken the emergency room (one floor below thank God). So keep that in mind before/when/if you try that again.
Yeah at this point I wouldn't push it further with her. Smells only affect my asthma when their from chemicals; perfume, candles some cleaning chemicals. but I don't have an all out attack unless it's either in a small room or walking by a bath and beauty, realy concentrated.
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