Your preferred wattage.

[RayofLight62]

8.5 W with Nautilus family of tanks.
44.5 W with Baby coils.
75 W with full height single mesh coils.
60 W with Kilyn mini or other single RTA
8.5 W or 185 C / 15 W with MTL RTAs
Pods: natural voltage and 12 W, except Flint and Orchid at 8.5 W.
The list is not inclusive, I have quite many different tanks for the hobby part of vaping. I'm pretentious to the point of matching eliquids to tanks, which is IMO the Sacred Graal of hobby vaping...

 

[DaveP]

Not all of us. Some of us use mech mods.

Yep, you get to experience all the different power levels as the battery dwindles down in voltage!

 

[DaveP]

Whats's cloud production on something like that? Also, about how long did it take of making your own coils to really get it right(basically just not messing things up lol)? Because I'm considering making the plunge into DIY coils.

MTL atomizers produce vapor about equal to smoking a cigarette. Winding a coil is actually easy. On the low tech side you just pick a small phillips screwdriver, a nail, or any smooth rod that's the right diameter and wind the wire tightly around it, compress or stretch the coil to suit your taste, adjust the coil spacing and leg alignment, and slide it off. CoilMaster kits give you all the tools you need to wind most any type coil.

Here's any introductory coil winding video to get you started.

 

[AngeNZ]

Hey guys! I've been vaping for between 1 & 2 years now and I feel I've found my comfort zone. I always run a two-battery mod, .4 OHM coil and always between 50-60 watts. Is that a normal wattage or do you run higher or lower? I know it depends on the resistance etc... but I just want to see if I'm not alone in this kind of setup.
Thanks, JJ

I'm a 0.5ohm coil vaper at a huge 15-17 watts But I vape mtl and also use TC

 

[Rossum]

Yep, you get to experience all the different power levels as the battery dwindles down in voltage!

That's what keeps it interesting!

 

[HigherStateD]

That's what keeps it interesting!

I get the same experience on my single cell regulated mod, guess I shouldn't push it so hard...

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[vapdivrr]

Whats's cloud production on something like that? Also, about how long did it take of making your own coils to really get it right(basically just not messing things up lol)? Because I'm considering making the plunge into DIY coils.

Like mentioned, winding a coil is fairly easy, one can be literally made in a minute, the tricky part is the wicking...if your looking into this type of mtl rebuildable vaping, Google any type of kayfun...there are many mtl rebuildables, but the kayfun is probably the most popular and their original design is seen in many many rtas. In these rtas, most build simple ,round wire coils around 2.5mm on average and resistances from .5 to 2 ohms and vape them anywhere from 8 to 25 watts and because it's a lower power and a mtl draw, most use higher nic juices. Using a higher nic allows one to not chain vape usually, and keeps juice consumption low, like 5mls per day or less. Also because of low power and low juice consumption, one can use much smaller capacity tanks and much smaller mods (single battery), so in general much smaller and lighter devices.....clouds are not the real focus on this type of vaping, although they can rock some decent vapor (much more then a cig imo) flavor, heat, throat hit, adjustability and the ability to mimic a cig are the main draw..... rebuilding does take some time to get it right and takes patience. Some might get it down in a day, while some may take more time, so its hard to say....if I had to guess, perhaps a dozen or so builds for most

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[HigherStateD]

When I learned, I started with pre-wound coils. They even make them with a wick already installed, so the appropriate amount needed is used. This would give you a great idea of how it would supposed to end up. If you are mechanically inclined, or crafty, it'd probably come as second nature, as it's very similar to knitting in a way.

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[MartinD]

Simple mtl coils on my rta's.KA1 28ga,about 1ohm 12,5W.

 

[bobwho77]

Depends on what you like, I suppose, but that's about what I'm running, most of the time.

 

[smoked25years]

8-11W

 

[VHRB2014]

Something over 50 but rarely over 100.

 

[BobbyV]

With several versions of sub-ohm tanks, I typically vape between 40 and 50 Watts using coils rated at 0.5 and 0.8 ohms with a 70 VG/30 PG juice at 1.5 mg nicotine. The recommended wattage for my coils is always much higher than I enjoy.

 

[Bozzlite]

11 watts with a 1.5 ohm coil.

 

[zapped]

I wouldn't know.

I'm old school.

My preferred voltage is 4.3 volts on a 1.8 ohm coil.

Knowing your Wattage isn't really necessary when you aren't blowing huge clouds and trying to impress people with large numbers.

 

[HigherStateD]

I wouldn't know.

I'm old school.

My preferred voltage is 4.3 volts on a 1.8 ohm coil.

Knowing your Wattage isn't really necessary when you aren't blowing huge clouds and trying to impress people with large numbers.

Thats equivalent to 10.27w. give or take

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[zapped]

Thanks. I guess.

Don't really need the info.

 

[HigherStateD]

Thanks. I guess.

Don't really need the info.

This is a thread about preferred wattage, just saying.

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[mcclintock]

16 watts loose MTL or multi-drag DL... Seems like this question brings out the lower power fans, compared to what I see in public, but then big clouds are most visible.

We are all individuals with individual needs. MTL vaping did not provide the satisfaction I needed to quit smoking. Had my first exposure to vaping be with a DTL setup, I would have saved myself from 2+ years of smoking cigarettes. I also introduced a good friend of mine to vaping. Our plan was to shop together for the right equipment for her, but time constraints prohibited that. She purchased a DTL setup on her own and as her first vape she enjoys it very much.

If I had realized there was lots of middle ground between the very low power MTL stuff I started with and what the vape shop guys were doing, I would have been able to stop smoking faster.

You do not know what temperature a kanthal coil reaches. But that is not the question. Even if using a TC metal where you have control of temperature (sans any errors of course), do you set the same power for different coils based on their surface area or mass?

I am trying to understand the correlation between power and surface area

I always set the power very close to the same when using my usual airflow, tight drip tip and technique, no matter what the coil, because those things are usually the limiting factors. The coil is fine tuned to that. On the tiny end, of what I've dared to try, it does affect power setting by a few tenths. That's both sidestepping the question and important.

Imagine a window with air blowing through, more air stronger breeze through it, bigger window less velocity. Heat flux is simply the ratio of power(=heat) coming in vs. how big a window there is to get OUT. Not heat the mass, because once it (ever) reaches equilibrium the mass makes no difference. That said, it does seem that some of the giant coils are operated in a mass controlled mode, allowing a small short drag or a huge cloud. But with a faster setup, the answer to that Ti vs. Kanthal question is that no, wicked and juiced, the Ti doesn't heat up as fast with 15 watts vs. 20. It heats up in .2 seconds if the Kanthal takes .3, both at 20 watts.

 

[Punk In Drublic]

16 watts loose MTL or multi-drag DL... Seems like this question brings out the lower power fans, compared to what I see in public, but then big clouds are most visible.



If I had realized there was lots of middle ground between the very low power MTL stuff I started with and what the vape shop guys were doing, I would have been able to stop smoking faster.



I always set the power very close to the same when using my usual airflow, tight drip tip and technique, no matter what the coil, because those things are usually the limiting factors. The coil is fine tuned to that. On the tiny end, of what I've dared to try, it does affect power setting by a few tenths. That's both sidestepping the question and important.

Imagine a window with air blowing through, more air stronger breeze through it, bigger window less velocity. Heat flux is simply the ratio of power(=heat) coming in vs. how big a window there is to get OUT. Not heat the mass, because once it (ever) reaches equilibrium the mass makes no difference. That said, it does seem that some of the giant coils are operated in a mass controlled mode, allowing a small short drag or a huge cloud. But with a faster setup, the answer to that Ti vs. Kanthal question is that no, wicked and juiced, the Ti doesn't heat up as fast with 15 watts vs. 20. It heats up in .2 seconds if the Kanthal takes .3, both at 20 watts.

Fully agree there are many more factors involved with how we set our power. The OP stated he knows power is based on resistance - my original post was to identify in a simplified manor that is not the case with a regulated device and gave examples that demonstrate the influence of different mass with 3 coils of almost identical resistance. We have a finite amount of adjustment along with materials used – that along with a subjective perception means we are working within limitations.

And what is needed to reach that equilibrium? 2 coils can have almost identical surface area thus a similar Heat Flux as per Steam, which is calculated as 1 watt divided by the surface area within the Wire Wizard tab, but yet can perform quite differently due to their mass.

Measuring Heat Flux is a lot more complex to which even the developer of Steam has admitted that his example is nothing more than a rough guide.

As for Ti vs Kanthal – difficult to correlate due to the required temperature limits needed for Titanium, but lets assume for a second they are not needed. Apply 20 watts to each coil for a 5 second duration, at the end of that 5 seconds, which coil will be hotter and why? There are many Specific Heat calculators that can be found on the web, all of which will identify that the Ti coil will be hotter given its Specific Heat Capacity and mass. If we could keep the same Specific Heat, mass becomes the contributing factor. There is a point of equilibrium, but is that met within the environment of an atomizer and within our 5 second duration?