ZFM Zero Filler Mod

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Guitarslinger

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ACK! Spoke too soon. I must have cut this plug differently - it's flooding like a sieve and I keep getting liquid in my mouth! Have to go recut it - I think I made the X slits a lot bigger this time. I thought that when I was cutting them and I should have gone with my gut - you really don't need a big hole!

(Man, that whole statement was riddled with double entendres! 8-o)

Lol-I agree-a small hole is definitely better :p
 

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You will never get eclypse to try anything that doesn't incorporate "His Blue Foam".

I've tried many of mods and still do. I've already mentioned in this thread that i've tried his mod and tried my version of it as well. Want to see a pic of my work area??? Theres alot more then foam on it forsure.

The # seems like it would work thanks.

If you have a mod out there you would be spending all your free time making it work for different voltages/juices as well!

GO MAKE YOUR OWN SINCE YOU ACT LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT! :-x

My free time is now spent getting a HV plug. And i think i got it thanks.

Sorry Scotty! Ad2convert has a prob and needs to come to me for the fix.
 
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I had great success with my first attempt at this mod, but of course I dropped the first one and lost it. The ones I tried to do afterward did not seem to work so well. It would only drain the top third of the cart. I knew then I was dealing with a vacuum issue. So I tried this and its been working like a charm.

All I did was punch out two holes with a pen. The first was in the center where the bridge make contact. Next I made another hole as close to the edge of the silicone as I could. I then cut the straw off of a can of compressed air. I made it so it would stick out about a mm.

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When you insert it into your atty make sure that the straw is positioned on the side of the bridge. It may shove the bridge to the side a bit, but I have not noticed any degraded performance.

Another plus side is that with that bright red straw attached to the silicone, I hopefully won't be losing these damn things anymore!

Try it out, and as always, have fun!:)
 

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Another plus side is that with that bright red straw attached to the silicone, I hopefully won't be losing these damn things anymore!

Try it out, and as always, have fun!:)

I like it MadeyeTony! :)

I think you may have something there! :)

I've been watching ever since this thread was started by SCOTTYBALLS and I keep dreaming of someone coming up with the commercial manufacture of it when it is perfected. (I would be one of the first customers!) :)

My hats off to all of you!!! :)

(Okay, be honest was I the only one to notice or think MadeyeTony's variation of this mod looks like his avatars picture?) ;)
 
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so we've gone from shoving silicon rubber caps against a heating bridge with a pool of liquid behind it...to shoving any other household rubber item against a hot bridge now, and even shoving plastic straws and epoxy and whatever down there too.

you people just might be going too far with your suggestions and crossing a lot of lines of safety here since you have no clue how they will react to heat or what chemicals you could be inhaling from them heating up.

just sayin.

here's a suggestion, take the cart off your atty, drip into it, replace, puff.
 

MadeyeTony

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Two following plugs I've made keep leaking liquid into the vents and mouthpiece, even the one with the smaller hole. It's not flooding the atty though?? I wonder if it's because the side pieces of the cap are curved? It's frustrating because the first plug is still working like a champ!!

I haven't had issues with flooding, but the opposite. Granted it does work better with the straw, but I still seem to have to suck a bit harder than normal.

I feel your pain! I'm still trying to figure out what I did right the first time, and how I screwed up the following dozen or so! I gave up on using the curved pieces as well.
so we've gone from shoving silicon rubber caps against a heating bridge with a pool of liquid behind it...to shoving any other household rubber item against a hot bridge now, and even shoving plastic straws and epoxy and whatever down there too.

you people just might be going too far with your suggestions and crossing a lot of lines of safety here since you have no clue how they will react to heat or what chemicals you could be inhaling from them heating up.

just sayin.

here's a suggestion, take the cart off your atty, drip into it, replace, puff.

I don't see how my variation is dangerous. It's been established that silicone will not burn. The straw protrudes a tiny bit and does not come close to the coil. The bridge should not heat up enough to melt it. So I don't see what the problem is.
 

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here's a suggestion, take the cart off your atty, drip into it, replace, puff.
That works, but it gets tiresome after a while, refilling after every 5-6 puffs, and isn't practical while driving or in public places. I know - I was a "dripper" myself for a few weeks. I'm actually dripping right now, because I'm too lazy to go make a new cart, lol! But it's still a PITA.

Thanks for your suggestion, though.
 

kristin

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The atty bridge doesn't go all the way into the reservoir so there is nothing to wick it up once the level drops. Wont you always have to turn it upside down to get the fluid to the bridge?

Do you ALWAYS keep your device perfectly vertical, LED up? Just the act of using it sloshes the liquid around and douses the atty bridge.
 

MadeyeTony

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The atty bridge doesn't go all the way into the reservoir so there is nothing to wick it up once the level drops. Wont you always have to turn it upside down to get the fluid to the bridge?

Yeah, I just tend to hold my PV at a downward angle while I draw. The silicone is amazingly stretchy, and when you force the cart into the atty, the silicone will stretch and surround the bridge. So there is fluid contact.
 

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Told you all this mod is tricky from the start I have 5 carts that work perfectly.. there is alot of things that determine the outcome with the mod.. the width of the straw you using for instance.. directly effects the way the X seals opens and closes to wide and it just dimples the plug and dose not open up... the hight of the straw.. dont overlook the obvious.. It did take time to get the 5 carts right patience grass hoppers....
 

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so we've gone from shoving silicon rubber caps against a heating bridge with a pool of liquid behind it...to shoving any other household rubber item against a hot bridge now, and even shoving plastic straws and epoxy and whatever down there too.

you people just might be going too far with your suggestions and crossing a lot of lines of safety here since you have no clue how they will react to heat or what chemicals you could be inhaling from them heating up.

just sayin.

here's a suggestion, take the cart off your atty, drip into it, replace, puff.


I am using material from a heat resistant spatula that you would use to stir boiling food in your kitchen...it is the same silicone as the cap...has an incredibly high melt rate, and the cart would melt before the silicone would.

I don't care for dripping...too many times when it is either inconvenient or downright dangerous (dripping and driving anyone?)

We are only breathing in chemicals if the short burst of heat is actually melting or changing the molecular makeup of the silicone. We know that the material in its current state is safe..it has been used for baby bottles for years...and the short amount of time that it is being exposed to high heat is very short by comparison to what it is exposed to while cooking...you know, when you leave it in the pan (which is pushing well over 500 degrees) while you go grab a beer! :)

If you don't like the mod, that's cool...that is all you had to say.
 

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Silicone Sealer just doesn't work. Even when it's cured it is much softer and stretchy (is that a word?) than the cap material. I saw the spatula today and that looks like a great alternative. I'm just having no luck making this work and it's frustrating. I'm gonna continue dripping and hope for a breakthrough!
 

MadeyeTony

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Told you all this mod is tricky from the start I have 5 carts that work perfectly.. there is alot of things that determine the outcome with the mod.. the width of the straw you using for instance.. directly effects the way the X seals opens and closes to wide and it just dimples the plug and dose not open up... the hight of the straw.. dont overlook the obvious.. It did take time to get the 5 carts right patience grass hoppers....
That's good advice. There are a lot of variables to take into account.
 
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