how to mix veggie glycerin and flavors?

Discussion in 'DIY E-Liquid' started by VP2008, Jul 21, 2008.

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  1. VP2008

    VP2008 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Admin Note

    Please note this is a very old thread and virtually all the information in it is wrong.


    Okay I got the veggie glycerin (thanks Cash -- got it at VitaminShoppe!) and flavoring without PG (cook's or wilton's brand in Ben Franklin store).

    Now what do I do? I have all these cartridges, all with PG that I can't vape, some with zero nic and some with low or med nic. I have mini cartridges and pen styles. The pen carts are much easier to deal with.

    The veggie glycerin is very thick! Am I supposed to dilute that with water or just a LOT of the flavor liquid or a little of both?

    I've already figured to rinse out and dry the carts before refilling (thanks for that tip Karen!).

    Just not real sure what and how much to mix to refill carts. I realize these will be zero nic carts and that's okay.

    Sorry for all the questions. I haven't used my ecigs for a while and can't wait to get them going again!!

    Thanks much!!
  2. CaSHMeRe

    CaSHMeRe Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    start with 50/50, then go up/down after that.

    will you also be adding cooked tobacco liquid?
  3. VP2008

    VP2008 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    No I won't be adding anything else.

    Oh I found some of those little sweet breath dropper bottles too. Going to fill those up with half vg and half flavor later today and see how it goes :)

  4. CaSHMeRe

    CaSHMeRe Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    it might not be that easy to mix ... VG is very sticky, and tends to stay together. I normally drip about 5 drops of VG in a small bowl (egg holder) and 5 drops of flavoring. Mix with the tip of the eye dropper for about a good minute or two, or until the contents look completely meshed, then suck up into the eye dropper and either drip a couple drops directly onto the atomizer or fill up the cartridge.

    let me know who it goes :)
  5. VP2008

    VP2008 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    oh yuck! Not good at this at all :mad: Mixed up vg and flavor and filled a cart and the atomizer crackled and popped and the taste was awful. Have never had problems with atomizers doing that before.


    Will try again later. Too frustrated right now.

  6. CaSHMeRe

    CaSHMeRe Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    lolololol .... it does take some practice. try 25% VG and 75% flavoring. VG likes to "take over" other flavors and mask them quite quickly.
  7. Kate

    Kate Moved On

    VP, what's in the flavourings you are using? Is there any alcohol - that might make the atomiser react differently.
  8. Mihai

    Mihai Senior Member

    You need flavouring WITH PG.

    Those without PG use oil or alcohol as a solubiliser - the first one is bad for your atomiser and for your lungs and the second one dilutes the solution too much.

    If you get pure, undiluted extract (which I doubt) you'll need PG to dilute it, or PG to dilute the glycerine solution, then add something like 1 drop for 10 ml or more of the solution.
  9. CaSHMeRe

    CaSHMeRe Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    no you don't ... TB has used flavoring without PG and has been successful. its the breakdown as to what matters. I will wait for him to chime in here ...

    VP is using VG because he is allergic to PG... thus the reason for flavoring without PG.

    Cross Post from VP's other thread. This is where TB mentions Cook's Vanilla.

    and the original thread can be found here ...
  10. Mihai

    Mihai Senior Member

    Ooops, sorry. I remember now I read that thread but my memory seems not what it used to be...:oops:

    I will try to make it up soon with a too long message about the way you can calculate the nicotine content in home cooked juice... I'm still writing it... started last night :D
  11. CaSHMeRe

    CaSHMeRe Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    i will love you forever if you have come up with a way to measure the nicotine content :thumb:

    been waiting for information pertaining to this subject for quite some time!!!! looking forward to it very mucho ... :)
  12. TropicalBob

    TropicalBob Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Look forward to it, Mihai.

    I have commented elsewhere on the problem of getting a good viscosity to the final liquid. Bickford seems a very good viscosity for e-smoking, but the taste is intense if it's the only fluid vaporized! And there's no nicotine, which I want.

    Last night, I made up a mix I've been using all day consisting of some thick homebrew fluid, some glycerine and Kahlua liquor (alcohol), and about 2ml of E-Cig 24mg coffee E-Liquid. I kept adding the thin liquor until the final mix seemed about like E-Cig's E-Liquid stuff. I started last night and have been smoking it all day. Extremely pleasant taste. Unknown (so is everything else, I guess) consequences to atomizers and health.

    My hope is that the alcohol helps burn off crud on the atomizer in addition to helping the viscosity. It sures helps taste and aroma! Cook's flavorings, BTW, use alcohol instead of PG. That's how I got started down the alcohol path. Cook's Vanilla makes outstanding e-liquid when mixed with glycerine.
  13. VP2008

    VP2008 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    TB -- are you talking about kahlua flavor or kahlua alcohol as in what I have in my liquor cabinet?
  14. TropicalBob

    TropicalBob Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Liquor cabinet.

    You have a cabinet? Damn. My Kahlua and Creme de Cacao sit on the kitchen countertop to the right of the sink.
  15. dnakr

    dnakr Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    That way you can grab it faster :) I always wanted a liquor cabinet.
  16. VP2008

    VP2008 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Sheesh I keep it out and the neighbors would be in and out of here all day long and I'd never get any work done. Gotta hide the good stuff!! :p
  17. dnakr

    dnakr Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    LOL - it would be a good excuse not to work, just keep the good stuff hidden. :)
  18. VP2008

    VP2008 Senior Member ECF Veteran


  19. values84

    values84 Full Member

    hum i don't know that shorthand. just curious what does "gmta" mean?
  20. TheEmperorOfIceCream

    TheEmperorOfIceCream Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    great minds think alike...
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