Is nicotine a necessity for you?

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Papa_Lazarou

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Well... when I smoked I was addicted to many things (thanks for the chemical gumbo, BT). With vaping, I feel I am dependant on only two - nicotine and the physical act of inhaling/exhaling vapor.

Of the two, the latter is far and away the stronger draw (if you pardon the pun).

My nic is down to 3mg for the most part and I think that it's a crutch - more a psychological dependance than a physical one. I bought into this scene thinking that the nic was the active ingredient that would get me off the cigarettes and I think I'm hanging on to that unconsciously. I have every reason to believe that I could/will be nic free. Now, the inhale/exhale thing...... that's another story.
 

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Likewise, the gesture of inhaling /exhaling vapor combined with keeping my hands occupied has become such an en-grained behavior over the last 40 yrs. Nicotine in my liquid is more of a preference as the taste differs with 0 nic juice and my current level is 6 mg strength or less which is pretty light.

I often think I could probably make do with a baby's pacifier:laugh:

I quit drinking coffee many times without feeling any ill effects (OK, maybe took half the day to wake up) but I like it as part of my daily routine.
 

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Wow this a deeper question than one would initially consider.
I have been considering it quite a bit recently ..

I went from Newport 100's ( pack a day +/- ) into the new "black guy standard" Black & milds =
( I'm black lol )
hoping that would stop the habit...
obviously to no avail..
the Blk & Milds just increased in quantity until there were sometimes 5 - 6 per day
yes cheaper for sure ....but much worse for my gums, teeth and overall health -- 3K dental work = ( that's an aside **)
but Since vaping I've tried 12 nic.. 24 nic 6 & 3, and of course Zeros.

I was NEVER a noob on my practical appliance applications however.
I tested the waters with disposable Blues ( noob I guess) but I jumped the Ego styled weakness & I'm hard on mech mods sub ohms or IPV3..
various devices Atlantis,.... Kayfun V3, and drippers

( sadly though I did experience the Nicotine OD )

[ I was assuredly ready to hurl hard [ with my IPV3 early on with just a 6Nic.. maybe 12.]
I generally now do 3's and Zeros but it was High wattage and either a 6 or a 12 ......I don't recall .. it made me quickly respect the potential here ..

Now ....just a few weeks in I have seemed to find my niche, and when the shiny - itus settles down ( freaking lol ) its just a
random -- casual -- juice search for me... I've already found a few favorites, realized that some
overpowering crafts ( 5 pawns) just cant be vaped all day ( thus not really worth the investment $$$) [ lol sickness]

--- test this vape 5 pawns ----chain for an hour hahahahhahahaaha
====HURL !!
Just saying whats the point if its not pleasant for HOURS & hours on end -------am I right !!! lol

its basically now .. ust a muscle memory thing of blowing clouds
with a little nic. to support it .
My Zeros actually satisfy me ...


(aside **)-- is anyone aware of any dental concerns with vaping ??
Also I was / am a gym rat .. Its probably just my busyness with work recently and my fixation on my new
hobby ( lol ----must build MASTER coil-- )
since I was lifting HARD as HELL with Ciggs & Cigars but I've kinda let the 2hr/day 4 days a week slip
since I started vaping -- anyone ??? COMMENTS ?? I could be just getting old to hahaha
 

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Likewise, the gesture of inhaling /exhaling vapor combined with keeping my hands occupied has become such an en-grained behavior over the last 40 yrs. Nicotine in my liquid is more of a preference as the taste differs with 0 nic juice and my current level is 6 mg strength or less which is pretty light.

I often think I could probably make do with a baby's pacifier:laugh:

I quit drinking coffee many times without feeling any ill effects (OK, maybe took half the day to wake up) but I like it as part of my daily routine.

you would have to hold the pacifier in between two fingers and blow after chewing it hahahahhahaa
but yea I get your point for sure ( my wifie NEVER a smoker does not )

flavorless would bother me

but delicious Zeros dude SOooo0o0o0o0o0o0o Addicted !!!!
I pause when ordering juice and think do I really need 3 Nic ,,, am I going to notice after all ???

;lolol
 

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I'm not too confident I could stay away from cigs if I couldn't vape anymore..nic or no nic. Looking to find a type of work on the beach that keeps me in the ocean all day might be the best at this point. Unfortunately, I'm a musician so am surrounded by the 'Temptations' every night lol.
 
I want nicotine. It is possible that I also need it, since once you get the brain used to having nicotine it tends to not work as well without it at least for a while. (Which is why withdrawal sucks) I know that I don't need as much of it since I started vaping, which makes me think that even though I smoked for 26 years mine was more a psychological addiction to the feeling of smoking than an actual chemical addiction to nicotine. Since I started using the eGrip with RBA and my sub ohm tank or a dripper with a sub ohm battery, I have been able to go from 18mg to 12mg to 6mg with no ill effect. I am content right now to stay at 6 and continue vaping, and if I never wean down to 0mg that would be fine by me. I felt like I was a slave to smoking for a long time, it was a huge factor in so many decisions in my life. Vaping to me feels more like drinking beer; I enjoy it, I do it frequently, but I don't HAVE to do it, it's not controlling my life.

If vaping went away tomorrow…I like to think that I'd stay off the cigs. I've never gone this long without, and since I started vaping the taste and smell of cigarettes is disgusting to me in a way I never thought would be possible. Plus, the physical effects of not smoking are so pleasant. I like to think the benefit would give me the added willpower to leave the smokes alone even if there were no way to vape.
 
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