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Oh, I don't know, Geo . . . . but I saved this little tidbit once . . .
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...y-grand-fit-two-batteries-3.html#post10097074
(scroll down a bit to get to the meat of the matter)
I am not sure exactly why, but whenever I see one of your builds I can't help but think, I need to do an oil change on my truck!!!!
My wife read something about lead content in brass. I'm no expert but I'm listening cause it means I get to get more RBAs![]()
Interesting, I did a quick bit of google surfing and found this: http://realbeer.com/jjpalmer/Welding.txt
Excerpt:
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"A Few Words About Brass
Brass is an alloy of Copper and Zinc with some lead thrown in for
machinability. The lead percentage varies, but for the common brass alloys
used in plumbing fittings it is 7% or less. Lead is entirely soluble in
copper, but the presence of zinc changes this. In Brass, the lead exists as
minute globules. These globules act as an intrinsic lubricant during
machining. The result is a micro-thin film of lead being smeared over the
machined surface. It is this lead (a very small amount) that can be dissolved
off by the wort. While this small amount of lead should probably not be a
cause of concern, most people would be happier if if wasn't there at all.
Well, never let it be said that the Space Program never yields technology
applicable to the home. Some chemists working on the International Space
Station Alpha program were consulted for an etchant that could safely remove
the lead from the surface of brass parts. The chemists determined that a 1-to-
1 volume ratio of Glacial Acetic Acid (98% by vol.) to Hydrogen Peroxide (30%
by vol.) would accomplish this without pitting the brass. This procedure was
performed in the lab using the standard laboratory concentrations of these
chemicals. The process consisted of a 30 second dunk, swirl and rinse at room
temperature, and was successful in removing the lead, as determined by a Lead
Home Test Kit (swabs). In addition, the procedure had the added benefit of
turning the brass into Pure Gold. (Okay, the color of, anyway.)
Because 98% Acetic Acid and 30% Hydrogen Peroxide are not available to the
average brewer, the experiment was repeated using the concentrations available
in the supermarket. These are 5% Acetic Acid (White Distilled Vinegar) and 3%
Hydrogen Peroxide. Due to the difference in concentration, the relative
concentration ratio is changed. For the household variety concentrations, a 2-
to-1 volume ratio of Acetic Acid to H2O2 is needed.
The process was expected to take longer with the more dilute solution, so the
brass part was immersed for 10 minutes. The results showed the same gold color
and the Lead Test swab indicated the lead had been removed. The buttery yellow
gold color can be used as an indicator that the process has completed. Home
Lead Test kits should be available at most hardware stores.
This procedure for removing surface lead from brass can easily be conducted at
home. A 10-15 minute dunk, swirl, and rinse in a 2/1 volume ratio of 5% Acetic
Acid and 3% Hydrogen Peroxide has been shown to be effective. By the way, the
solution can be irritating to the skin so either wear gloves or use tongs."
........
"John Palmer is a metallurgical and welding engineer for McDonnell Douglas
Aerospace in Huntington Beach, California. "
I'll get some lead test kits and try this procedure to see before and after on my new RM2.
Got to shovel more snow now and pick my father up from the hospital and take him home.
Follow up
Ok, got a little bit of time and performed the test using EPA Recognized 3M Lead Check Swabs.
These will detect leachable lead concentrations of at least 0.2%.
Below 0.2% brass is considered "Lead Free"
Swabbing a brand new RM2 on the lathed down outside area I got dark pink to blood red coloration on the first swab.
Quote "If the swab tip and/or test surface turn pink or red the test is positive - A HAZARDOUS LEVEL OF LEAD IS PRESENT. In general, when the swab is used immediately after activation, the darker the developed pink color the higher the lead content."
Soaked both the tested RM2 and a second new non tested RM2 (as a control in case the testing removed the lead) in a 2 to 1 solution of 5% acetic acid (distilled white vinegar) and 3% hydrogen peroxide for 15 minutes occasionally stirring then rinsed with tap water.
Retested both new RM2's and got negative results, so the surface lead is gone or at least below 0.2%.
I swabbed the test confirmation card that was included as a double check for the negative result and it showed the swab was active so the negative result is verified.
There is exposed brass inside the RM2 below the ceramic where a milling action was done to allow juice flow to the hole with the removed post, around the perimeter of the ceramic at top, and the drilled air hole, but they are a small area for testing.
All those areas turned the same gold color as the outside lathed down area did after the soaking so I assume the surface lead was also removed.
The questions that remain are:
Will surface lead leach into juice? (I have a feeling the answer is yes, especially with citric acid)
If so, is there an appreciable danger since the area exposed to juice is small? (Don't have a clue)
Has the surface lead in my used RM2 already been leached away by juice? (Out of test strips to check)
Once the surface lead has been leached away or removed, will it leach out of the brass to the surface again? (That would increase the likelihood of appreciable danger)
This is probably way "off topic" and if so what sub forum would be the best one to start a thread for this super_X_drifter?
Just thought I would let you know the results.
Dunno at this point scandal, hopefully this will get figured out. As I said, I don't want to scrap mine, as it will mean going back to regular atties. If I have to do that, I'd rather sell the three Reos that I use the RM2's on, and get something to use carto tanks, or clearos on.
Hello All!!
So does this mean our RM2's are no good to use?
On a happier note, me reo\rm2 etc has arrived in the uk after it's 11day boat ride![]()
there is more lead in my local tap water than there ever would be potentially entering my vape juice and I drink that stuff daily.
just my .02