Tony
It's not considered to be entirely fair to bring up facts in such discussions in some quarters.
Duane
Titanium wire, vaping and safety
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So as long as we don't go beyond purple, haze isn't going to hurt us?
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Excuse me, while I kiss this guy!
Tony
It's not considered to be entirely fair to bring up facts in such discussions in some quarters.
Duane
Yeah, Tony! What are you, some sort of conservative?
Well I try to keep an open mind but It just ...... me off how anybody could go and qualify TiO2 as cat B based on a study that I personally found hilarious to read.
It's like someone thought: hey, let's try to pin something on TiO2 because nobody else managed. And then try to shift attention to certain aspects while almost ignoring others (like the two pad thing).
I bet my sweet .... that had they created four rat groups and gassed each group with different airborne materials like nickel oxide, TiO2, aluminium oxide and any other oxide, they would probably reached the same conclusion... Gassing an animal with any inorganic material will damage it's lungs sooner or later.
I have a friend who had a partial lung failure and when the doctor interviewed him, he asked him if he smoked. He said yes and the doc replied: that's it, you need to stop smoking right now.
When my friend left the hospital and was recovering at home, he told me what happened and I asked him: did you also tell your doctor that you smoke a cigarette per week and that you work at a fiberglass packing plant without any protection or mask while you carry 40 lbs balls of raw fiberglass 8 hours per day?
Naa, he didn't ask...
Yep... Assumption is the mother of all F...
Ps: my friend quit his job soon after.
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Tony
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It's like someone thought: hey, let's try to pin something on TiO2 because nobody else managed. And then try to shift attention to certain aspects while almost ignoring others (like the two pad thing).
I bet my sweet .... that had they created four rat groups and gassed each group with different airborne materials like nickel oxide, TiO2, aluminium oxide and any other oxide, they would probably reached the same conclusion... Gassing an animal with any inorganic material will damage it's lungs sooner or later.
I have a friend who had a partial lung failure and when the doctor interviewed him, he asked him if he smoked. He said yes and the doc replied: that's it, you need to stop smoking right now.
When my friend left the hospital and was recovering at home, he told me what happened and I asked him: did you also tell your doctor that you smoke a cigarette per week and that you work at a fiberglass packing plant without any protection or mask while you carry 40 lbs balls of raw fiberglass 8 hours per day?
Naa, he didn't ask...
Yep... Assumption is the mother of all F...
Ps: my friend quit his job soon after.
Regards
Tony
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Tony,
I think many of such "studies" are supported by those who are eager to supply arguing points for lawyers so they can create unjustified lawsuits or by unimaginative organizations that hope to make some headlines and get future funding for more folly.
Your example is probably pretty common unfortunately.
Duane
Well, regulated mods don't work quite the same as mech mods. Resistance doesn't really factor into the amp draw, watts and battery charge level do (lower charge = higher amp draw). For a specific watt setting, with a higher resistance the voltage will also be higher, whereas with a lower resistance the voltage will be lower. The battery puts out whatever voltage it's at, and the mod circuitry regulates that voltage. So, higher voltage than the battery charge = more amps are drawn to provide the higher voltage, lower voltage = amps are "saved" by not needing to provide all that the battery puts out. Check steam-engine.org, the battery calculations for regulated (vw) devices. You'll see that changing the resistance of the coil doesn't affect the amp draw at all.
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Yep and a lot of people still don't seem to get this.
Basically if you have a regulated device, all you need to know is the wattage you have it set at and the charge left in the battery. Atomizer resistance means absolutely zero. I really wish it was standard on regulated mods to show the real time amperage being drawn from the battery so everyone would have a good idea how close they are to their battery's limits.
As far as battery life, I think the biggest with an internal battery is the Evic-VT? I haven't really been looking at them much lately, though.
Just ordered some 28g wire from sweet-vapes, looking forward to seeing what I can do in my Zephyrus with that instead of the 26g I've been using!
I'm intending the next TC mod will hold 2 replaecable 18650's. I'm going to be picky. Another form factor I'd like is a single cell side by side with TC that will accomodate my rda's. I'm not using tanks any more.
Then I would think most mods that take 2 18650s would have relatively similar battery life based on the actual batteries you were using, but I could be wrong. The only 18650 mod I've used is the Heatvape Invader Mini, and that's a single 18650.
Well for now I guess I've been won over to the dark side of the force lol. I started dry burning Ti to at least a dull glow when setting up a new build. It just became too much of a pain to try to ensure even heating without being able to actually see it. I install new coils infrequently enough that the exposure to any possible nasties could hardly be classified as occupational or chronic.
I'll let everyone know if I die from it lol.
I'll let everyone know if I die from it lol.
I dull glow my Ti coils too, and I greatly prefer the performance/flavor of contact coils over spaced once they're properly massaged.
Gunking is not a problem for me to deal with, since I still build new coils about every other wick (every other day or so, sometimes daily), and that applies to Kanthal and Ni200 as well. I just like the performance and taste of fresh coils mated to fresh wicks, and you always lose some of that with each re-wick/cleaning. Wire is cheap (even titanium), cotton is cheap, and it's about the same amount of time for me to wrap and mount a new coil as it is to clean one.
Plus to be honest, it's just plain easier build contact coils with Ti compared to spaced, no matter what method you use for spacing (stretching, razor blading, machine screwing).
Gunking is not a problem for me to deal with, since I still build new coils about every other wick (every other day or so, sometimes daily), and that applies to Kanthal and Ni200 as well. I just like the performance and taste of fresh coils mated to fresh wicks, and you always lose some of that with each re-wick/cleaning. Wire is cheap (even titanium), cotton is cheap, and it's about the same amount of time for me to wrap and mount a new coil as it is to clean one.
Plus to be honest, it's just plain easier build contact coils with Ti compared to spaced, no matter what method you use for spacing (stretching, razor blading, machine screwing).
I like 24g also. I have some fully annealed stuff which is not springy at all and easy to work! Coil mass can be an issue but not a biggie with the TC mods available these days! Just crank up the W/J!!
Which one is that?
And yeah I quite like 24G when it fits in my atomizers, nice big area for flavour
No it isn't, at least I don't think so. It's the same as the Ti from 3f, labeled TA1.
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