Titanium wire, vaping and safety

[Madnapali]

Has anyone tried wrapping their Ti coil on a machine screw? That's how I do all my drippers with Ni and it works perfect every time.

If no ones tried that yet, I'll report back when I finally get a chance to so much as open up my Ti wire spools lol.

 

[HolmanGT]

Has anyone tried wrapping their Ti coil on a machine screw? That's how I do all my drippers with Ni and it works perfect every time.

If no ones tried that yet, I'll report back when I finally get a chance to so much as open up my Ti wire spools lol.

I alway use a screw to wind my Ni & Ti coils. Works great.

 

[Madnapali]

I alway use a screw to wind my Ni & Ti coils. Works great.

Good, that's what I planned on doing since I resolved to use Ti. Which was months ago. And I haven't done it yet. Haha.

Might work out for my gennies, too. I could never do the perfect coil method with Ni cuz of how weak it is. Instantly warps when I try to get my wick in.

 

[druckle]

Good, that's what I planned on doing since I resolved to use Ti. Which was months ago. And I haven't done it yet. Haha.

Might work out for my gennies, too. I could never do the perfect coil method with Ni cuz of how weak it is. Instantly warps when I try to get my wick in.

I haven't had any problem with titanium just winding it on a Coilmaster (tight/touching) coils...then pulling it out to stretch it....then pushing it back together with my fingers. The slight stiffness of the titanium makes the gaps between turns always turn out just right.

If I want a coil with really close gaps I just slip a razor blade between the turns and twist it ever so slightly. Titanium is about the easiest material to get a good coil with of any material I've ever used.

Duane

 

[Madnapali]

I haven't had any problem with titanium just winding it on a Coilmaster (tight/touching) coils...then pulling it out to stretch it....then pushing it back together with my fingers. The slight stiffness of the titanium makes the gaps between turns always turn out just right.

If I want a coil with really close gaps I just slip a razor blade between the turns and twist it ever so slightly. Titanium is about the easiest material to get a good coil with of any material I've ever used.

Duane

I haven't even laid a finger on it yet so I haven't gotten a feel for the tension of the wire. If it's anything like SS wire, it's a pain to wrap w/o heat but ends up being really easy to make a tight, uniform contact coil. And even center up nicely in a dual config.

 

[druckle]

I haven't even laid a finger on it yet so I haven't gotten a feel for the tension of the wire. If it's anything like SS wire, it's a pain to wrap w/o heat but ends up being really easy to make a tight, uniform contact coil. And even center up nicely in a dual config.

I don't have any experience with stainless steel wire so I can't comment. I've never had any problem winding a coil with titanium although using annealed wire makes the coil a little bit easier to make and it doesn't expand to a slightly larger diameter the way that the hard drawn wire does.

Duane

 

[Madnapali]

I don't have any experience with stainless steel wire so I can't comment. I've never had any problem winding a coil with titanium although using annealed wire makes the coil a little bit easier to make and it doesn't expand to a slightly larger diameter the way that the hard drawn wire does.

Duane

I'll figure it out. I've got 2 going on 3 genesis atties that need recoiled badly. Will be a fun night figuring out the best way to build each one.

 

[Jeremy Schreiber]

Is titanium less of a pain than nickel? I was just at a local store having them try to build me coils on my Velocity Clone and Opus 200. They first tried a dual nickel clapton, worked for about twenty minutes and then started saying it was shorted and the temperature control wasn't kicking in. Then he just tried a kanthal nickel twist and the same thing happened. I haven't built anything before and have always just used tanks (which the temperature control works great on, so it's not the mod) so I don't have the tools to do it myself, but if titanium will work and not give me all the problems that nickel is giving me, I would gladly try it. I just want to see if it is any easier to get going and be consistent?Thanks!

 

[jks89]

I haven't had any problem with titanium just winding it on a Coilmaster (tight/touching) coils...then pulling it out to stretch it....then pushing it back together with my fingers. The slight stiffness of the titanium makes the gaps between turns always turn out just right.

I do the opposite. I wind mine on a Coilmaster slightly spaced, then push together to close the gaps and it tightens up nicely.

Is titanium less of a pain than nickel? I was just at a local store having them try to build me coils on my Velocity Clone and Opus 200. They first tried a dual nickel clapton, worked for about twenty minutes and then started saying it was shorted and the temperature control wasn't kicking in. Then he just tried a kanthal nickel twist and the same thing happened. I haven't built anything before and have always just used tanks (which the temperature control works great on, so it's not the mod) so I don't have the tools to do it myself, but if titanium will work and not give me all the problems that nickel is giving me, I would gladly try it. I just want to see if it is any easier to get going and be consistent?Thanks!

To me it sounds more like they were trying to do things and failing. I think most so far just do a simple single wire with good results. Personally, I'm just not really interested in the time/effort of making things like clapton coils. Maybe if one day they sell pre-claptoned Ti I'll try it.

 

[vapealone]

...Personally, I'm just not really interested in the time/effort of making things like clapton coils. Maybe if one day they sell pre-claptoned Ti I'll try it.

They do sell premade claptons. On FT you can find Kanthal and NiChrome ones of different make including UD but someone makes hybrids too. I ve bought some 26Kanthal/32Ni from an AU vendor although it is not really good for TC unless your mod is capable to handle ultra low TCR (0.001ish). However, I havent seen premade Ti claptons either.

 

[Jeremy Schreiber]

Jks89: I think that maybe was it. The builder was quite experienced with kanthal and tried his best, but really did not have much experience with nickel. They are the only vape shop that I know of that will even attempt working with nickel so I had to try because I don't have an ohm meter, wire, or the right type of screw driver (or anything 3mm in diameter) to make a build myself but I think I am going to end up getting those things to try to work with titanium.

Ultimately, I think the spacing was the main issue. I would agree that with nickel that the claptons probably aren't worth the time. In the end, I wound up walking out with dual clapton kanthal coils that came out to .13 ohm and I'm happy with that for now but I got a glimpse of high wattage temperature control with an RDA and really want to get that going as soon as possible

Not to get off topic, but I was considering buying pre-made clapton nickel coils and running a dual because the DNA200 can be run stupid low (one of the claptons made at the store was at .02 - .03 and worked amazingly for ten minutes before starting to short for some reason and not work in temp control). I have seen them on both eBay and Amazon made by people that really know what they are doing (it looks like).

Probably been asked and answered so I apologize, but does titanium need the wraps to be spaced like nickel does? Is it also as likely to have problems shorting? I was thinking of just doing a dual coil with the thickest gauge of titanium I can fit in my Velocity and hope that can have the flexibility to handle 100 watts.

 

[druckle]

Some folks have run titanium contact coils but personally I like to have small spacing. The wire is strong enough to adjust the spacing to what you like and it will stay there. With Nickel I always found the wire was too wimpy to stay put.

Duane

 

[AtmizrOpin]

Lately I'm liking compressed coils with Ti. That way they actually fit in those small rta decks. Pulse em with about 15 watts, compress em and do the strum technique to make sure they're glowing from the inside out. So far for me, it's been gravy.

 

[2legsshrt]

Lately I'm liking compressed coils with Ti. That way they actually fit in those small rta decks. Pulse em with about 15 watts, compress em and do the strum technique to make sure they're glowing from the inside out. So far for me, it's been gravy.

I'll have to try a contact coil. This Vape Mesh wire wraps really nice on the coilmaster but I stretch it and push it back together to get a nice evenly spaced coil. I really like this stuff and on the Ni mode with the SX works flawlessly.

 

[2legsshrt]

I am really glad these threads talked me into trying this Ti. It is fantastic. I like my vape a little lighter than most and I am using it at 275-285 18J with a 5 wrap 26awg coil and I am loving it. The vape is thick and flavorful not too warm its amazing. I had my doubts about it at first but not. Now think I will change over another atty today. I am kinda boring that way I find something that works to my liking and that is all I build. Got my wicking working good and will eventually have them all built with the same build. Now if the longevity is all you guys say it is going to be great. Thanks again guys for the advice.

 

[Madnapali]

Some folks have run titanium contact coils but personally I like to have small spacing. The wire is strong enough to adjust the spacing to what you like and it will stay there. With Nickel I always found the wire was too wimpy to stay put.

Duane

This is my experience with nickel in any atomizer I have to wick with cotton. Have to be very gentle. Genesis, on the other hand, is wicked easy with nickel and seems to have a much longer lifespan.

 

[WideO]

Over the moon with a 24g Ti1 coil. Super easy to form, does not budge when wicking, and works great overall. I think this will be my new standard.

 

[tchavei]

Over the moon with a 24g Ti1 coil. Super easy to form, does not budge when wicking, and works great overall. I think this will be my new standard.

I guess I have to try it out next time I do a rebuild

Regards
Tony

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[Madnapali]

Finally built my first Ti coil. Dual config 26g Unkamen in a Marquis... And I think I'm going to stop here until you guys weigh in.

My USA OhmMeter read in .335. My DIY Boxer SX350J read in .249. I set the temp to 400 to see if it heated evenly, and I'll be damned they both glowed as bright as the sun. I assume that isn't good.

Next, I wicked it, set the temp to 360F, and added some juice. Watching the screen while firing, it sets to 032F while firing and doesn't seem to have any temp control going on at all.

I've not had any issues with the board reading resistance on any other atomizer, so I don't think it's that. I also highly doubt the Marquis is interfering with the reading.

Edit: The ohm meter and the SX consistently agree with each other on all my nickel builds on other atomizers, and I've not had similar issues with the Marquis in the past.

Thoughts?

 

[Madnapali]

Super quick update. Vaped on the Marquis for a bit. Vapes a lot better than my last nickel build did.

Then I checked the resistance to see what it was reading in at after getting hot. It dropped to .16. What the hell?

Edit: waited a bit, read it in at .138. Temp control is now working. I'll give it a rest and get another accurate reading in a bit.