1 year vaping ( well almost ? )

[Pokeygizmo]

''It's actually the nicotine itself that inhibits bone healing,'' said Dr. Alan S. Hilibrand of Thomas Jefferson University and the Rothman Institute in Philadelphia. And nicotine, he said, does not linger long in the body.

Here is the link for the whole article :VITAL SIGNS - CONSEQUENCES - VITAL SIGNS - CONSEQUENCES - Warning - Nicotine Can Inhibit Healing - NYTimes.com

Not good enough to convince me, sorry!

Dr. Hilibrand doesn't address how or how much nicotine inhibits bone healing (or at least the author neglected to include it). He states that "nicotine does not linger long in the body" -- what is long? Some sources I've read online state that it varies depending on amount ingested/inhaled/absorbed and on length of time nicotine has been used overall -- tests can show negative from 6 to 8 hours from last use and can show positive from use for up to 30 days after cessation.

Also too many variables not addressed other than smoker / non-smoker. How many people were obese? How many people nutritionally deficient? What are the ages of the 190 patients monitored? What other underlying disease processes did these folks have -- diabetes, heart issues, kidney issues, liver problems, COPD (which can be caused by things other than smoking, just sayin'), etc...? Not a good model for the scientific method.

But, as I haven't really researched anything regarding nicotine and bone-healing, I'll have to assume that he has his medical justifications for saying what he did and that the NYT reporter just did a half-a## job with the article as it was more intended for the general public (and, prolly, the anti-smoking nazis) than for being published in a medical journal.

The doctors I worked for/around always told me that the majority of smokers who suffer from reflux do so due to the nicotine in cigs. They never showed me any documented evidence. I always believed them until I switched from smoking to vaping. Still have nicotine input (maybe more than before, considering the amount I vape), and I haven't had reflux problems once since switching over. Just a personal anecdote, no scientific evidence, but several people whom I know and have switched have noticed the same thing.

I still think nicotine gets a bad rap -- sometimes deservedly so, sometimes not. But it is the medical communities' catch-all bad guy for the ills of smoking beyond what it physically does to your lungs and the transient vaso-constrictive properties it has akin to caffeine.

I know, I am one of those peeps "in the medical community" and I hear it all the time, LOL!

 

[salemgold]

Well said Pokey. It seems that everything is blamed on smoking in general for smokers and I really wonder if alot of docs jump to that conclusion just because everything is blamed on smoking. I know that there is nothing about cigs that are healthy for us but it just seems too easy to blame them for everything that happens to a smoker. Look at how many non smokers die from lung cancer each year.
So it may be that just because nicotine is one of the ingredients in cigs it is taking the fall for all of the issues too.

I can tell you that my husband suffers from psoriases and has for 30 years. He has had terrible scaling on his elbows for most of the 30 years. Now that we are vaping and not smoking cigs it miraculously disappered one night! I do believe getting off the cigs has something to do with this remission but obviously nicotine was not the culprit in the cigs that aggravated the condition because he vapes like a fiend.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I have a similar story to this topic. Except it was my dentist. I decided to get a couple of implants and of course was told that my smoking would inhibit the healing time, etc. So, what do you think is the first thing I see on tv? A commercial for blue ecigs. So I went and googled ecigs and the rest....like Buzz said. I also work aroung dr's and researchers and they do have a tenacy to lump the nic in analogs to all the health things that are wrong with 'smokers'. All I know is that my health has improved 100 times over and I couldn't be happier.
Thanks again for the 'buzz' Buzz.

wv

 

[BuzzKill]

Good to hear stories like that WV , I have been MFG products for 17 yrs BUT making the Buzz and the other PV's we will have has been WAY different , these things actually affect peoples lives and being able to help by bringing my tech background to this industry is cool for me .
I always dealt with other companies and not directly to the consumer so that has been a learning curve for us ( My employees are crying about having to work so hard LOL ! ) But it has been worth it , for the first time in 4 years they are working 5 days a week ! .

Anyhow I enjoy designing and developing products and will continue to do so in this industry . I just hope that we can find the formula that really combines the best of all aspects for vaping .

 

[nickf41680]

Not good enough to convince me, sorry!



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The doctors I worked for/around always told me that the majority of smokers who suffer from reflux do so due to the nicotine in cigs. They never showed me any documented evidence. I always believed them until I switched from smoking to vaping. Still have nicotine input (maybe more than before, considering the amount I vape), and I haven't had reflux problems once since switching over. Just a personal anecdote, no scientific evidence, but several people whom I know and have switched have noticed the same thing.


ill have to agree with you 100% on this i have had reflux for over 10 years... i quit smoking a month ago and (knock on wood) i havent had any signs of it since!!

 

[5cardstud]

Well it suely hasn't hurt my healing because the doctor told me that he has never had anyone heal as fast as I have. He was pulling other Dr. into the office to show me to them. Si I have to agree, Dr. Hilibrand would do better with ducks beings she's a quack. I just saw her link and posted it. My bad.
My reflux hasn't changed at all but I think it's from something other than nic. I'm not a doc though.