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I'm going to try the vinegar method. My coworker said we are basically etching the SS when we torch it. I'm hoping that it will be less harsh on the steel.

Not so much, etching is removing material with things like acids. We are building up a layer of mostly carbon.
 

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I am certainly no expert when it comes to mesh wicks, so others are welcome to share some advice.
The GOOD news is that you are not fighting with hot spots (shorts).
I started rolling 40mm wicks with decent results and continued to work up from there.
My current setup is 70mm of 400 mesh with a tiny hole in the center.
Try only filling the tank 3/4 full, tilt at 3 o'clock and see if the liquid is wicking. Some break in may be required however, you should be able to see the liquid saturating the wick.
Have you had success with smaller diameter wicks?

I've tried smaller wicks with open center channel and that wicks well. I would like to beable to setup my Cobra the correct way with a solid wick.
 

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I agree and am very pleased with having an SS mesh wick rather than an SS mesh juice conduit.

What do you make of his stance that an insulator is a good idea, because you end up "sinking current to ground" if you don't have one and make you also make your wick "crispy" and waste battery life.

I wonder about this myself. I have to say my battery life (Provari) with the DID/ZAP is pretty lame. I attributed this to the really long drags/button times and watts I vape them at, but I wonder if the 'sinking current to ground' is adding a noticeable insult to injury here

Either way using an insulator is out for me, they don't keep up. New found sympathy for patients that say "Doc I don't use condoms, they don't feel good." lol
 

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I wonder about this myself. I have to say my battery life (Provari) with the DID/ZAP is pretty lame. I attributed this to the really long drags/button times and watts I vape them at, but I wonder if the 'sinking current to ground' is adding a noticeable insult to injury here

Either way using an insulator is out for me, they don't keep up. New found sympathy for patients that say "Doc I don't use condoms, they don't feel good." lol

I think you answered your own question "long drags/button times and watts I vape them at", even my DNA with two 3100's does not last a complete day with the pyrex coil because of the long lag time.
On the second, I agree with your patient. Life is cruel, first a vasectomy, then aids showed up, damn, then ...... came to really mess thing up.:toast:
 

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I wonder about this myself. I have to say my battery life (Provari) with the DID/ZAP is pretty lame. I attributed this to the really long drags/button times and watts I vape them at, but I wonder if the 'sinking current to ground' is adding a noticeable insult to injury here

Either way using an insulator is out for me, they don't keep up. New found sympathy for patients that say "Doc I don't use condoms, they don't feel good." lol
I've noticed those pesky secret shorts kill battery life.
 

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I tried sinking the glass tube into the wick hole on my AGA-T but that left the post wire to the post too far way and couldn't bend the glass so that leg glowed something terrible. I had to pull the tube out of the wick hole to move the glass closer to the post and got rid of the hot spot. It doesn't seem to be shorting at the wick hole but I have to double vape to get any vapor and the flavor isn't all that great. So far I'm getting much better vapes with cartos. :(
 

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I tried sinking the glass tube into the wick hole on my AGA-T but that left the post wire to the post too far way and couldn't bend the glass so that leg glowed something terrible. I had to pull the tube out of the wick hole to move the glass closer to the post and got rid of the hot spot. It doesn't seem to be shorting at the wick hole but I have to double vape to get any vapor and the flavor isn't all that great. So far I'm getting much better vapes with cartos. :(
That glass tube is ridiculous. I tried it. I might as well been vaping a ego battery with a 4 ohm cartomizer. LOL
 

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I wonder about this myself. I have to say my battery life (Provari) with the DID/ZAP is pretty lame. I attributed this to the really long drags/button times and watts I vape them at, but I wonder if the 'sinking current to ground' is adding a noticeable insult to injury here

Either way using an insulator is out for me, they don't keep up. New found sympathy for patients that say "Doc I don't use condoms, they don't feel good." lol

When BJ43 initially debunked the idea of an insulator to keep the wick from grounding I had problems wrapping my heard around the claim. As I've given more thought to it I finally realized that with a perfectly oxidized coil the only ground can only be the grounded end of the coil. It can't be allowed to ground to the wick or the coil won't heat evenly. Hence if the coil doesn't ground to the wick the wick can't ground to the RBA. :)

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When BJ43 initially debunked the idea of an insulator to keep the wick from grounding I had problems wrapping my heard around the claim. As I've given more thought to it I finally realized that with a perfectly oxidized coil the only ground can only be the grounded end of the coil. It can't be allowed to ground to the wick or the coil won't heat evenly. Hence if the coil doesn't ground to the wick the wick can't ground to the RBA. :)

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Yeah, I think he may have brought that up initially in response to an ignorant comment or question from me in the early days of this thread when my head was still clouded by all the rubbish spewed about genesis atomizers elsewhere on the internet :) So, I've been perfectly happy with that explanation since then, but Zen's seemingly strong conviction regarding the use of insulators had me wondering what BJ and others here might say in response. I don't natively have enough knowledge about the principles at work to refute such claims so I came looking for ammo when I posted that a couple pages back :D
 

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Yeah, I think he may have brought that up initially in response to an ignorant comment or question from me in the early days of this thread when my head was still clouded by all the rubbish spewed about genesis atomizers elsewhere on the internet :) So, I've been perfectly happy with that explanation since then, but Zen's seemingly strong conviction regarding the use of insulators had me wondering what BJ and others here might say in response. I don't natively have enough knowledge about the principles at work to refute such claims so I came looking for ammo when I posted that a couple pages back :D

Yep and the thinner your coil wire the higher your sinking current to ground. On a well oxidized wick you could probably get 15 more minutes of vaping with an insulator. So if that is more important than a good thick wick, go for it. There is a design for everyone and no one can say his is best.
 

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Yep and the thinner your coil wire the higher your sinking current to ground. On a well oxidized wick you could probably get 15 more minutes of vaping with an insulator. So if that is more important than a good thick wick, go for it. There is a design for everyone and no one can say his is best.

I cast my vote in favor of a setup that actually wicks the juice and therefore provides me with full flavor, no dry hits, and no need to assume the "baby calf being bottle fed" position while vaping :)
 
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