6v is not the answer HIGH DRAIN CELLS is the answer!!

[Vapoorer]

yea tell me about it i have a flashlight laser blu ray pointer that i build and working on another 12x blu ray laser right now and i have 1 little nice bright cree light also ...i just love this stuff some times i cant even bring myself to go eat because i feel the computer sucks me in lol.

i just got my 2 AW 2600mah in today havnt tested them out yet waiting on getting my silver bullet in the mail

 

[Vapoorer]

Interesting, the AW 1600 mAh high drain show the highest amp, but shortest run time. That makes sense, but disputes what some have said about this battery lasting longer. Against the Ultrafire 3000 mAh, #3 in the chart, that battery lasts twice as long or more as it's off this chart.

yea and it dosn't hold it for that long nethier

I wish he had the Wolf Eyes LRB-168A 2400 Rechargeable Li-ion Battery in the charts i here that these batterys are really good but there $20.00 has anyone tried these before

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[Quick1]

Interesting, the AW 1600 mAh high drain show the highest amp, but shortest run time. That makes sense, but disputes what some have said about this battery lasting longer. Against the Ultrafire 3000 mAh, #3 in the chart, that battery lasts twice as long or more as it's off this chart.

Ummm, what's he charting?

What we want to see is a constant current draw between 1.7 and 1.9 amps and see how long they can sustain it. Results could be completely different.

 

[Ralph T]

Ummm, what's he charting?

What we want to see is a constant current draw between 1.7 and 1.9 amps and see how long they can sustain it. Results could be completely different.

I think the tester used a particular flashlight as a load for this test. It came from candlepower forums. They are all about flashlights over there. The OP posted the info here because it was interesting test info of the same batteries we sometimes use.

I was thinking more like a 2.2 to 3 ohm load, on 5 seconds, off 15 seconds to simulate constant vaping, until the discharge cutoff of the cell. Maybe use a 555 timer circuit to drive a relay for the on/off functionality. Use a DMM with computer interface to measure and plot "loaded" voltage throughout the test.

Been pondering this for awhile, but I cant find my interface cable for my DMM and cant afford a new one atm. Beans, ramen and rice here.

 

[Quick1]

I think the tester used a particular flashlight as a load for this test. It came from candlepower forums. They are all about flashlights over there. The OP posted the info here because it was interesting test info of the same batteries we sometimes use.

I was thinking more like a 2.2 to 3 ohm load, on 5 seconds, off 15 seconds to simulate constant vaping, until the discharge cutoff of the cell. Maybe use a 555 timer circuit to drive a relay for the on/off functionality. Use a DMM with computer interface to measure and plot "loaded" voltage throughout the test.

Been pondering this for awhile, but I cant find my interface cable for my DMM and cant afford a new one atm. Beans, ramen and rice here.

Exactly!

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[WillyB]

Those charts and and posts at CDF can be quite confusing. What they've said in the past and it seems to apply here is that TrustFires are a better choice than the UltraFires. It also appears that although UF and TF exaggerate their mAhs the AW IMR had terrible capacity for the price.

I also see some who've tried the IMR's are raving while others aren't. It would have been helpful if folks could have listed the ohms of the atty they were using (saying '510' don't count). As was mentioned those with authentic Joye 2.2Ω atties might see some benefit while those using the imitation 510's might as well stick with the cheap 18650's.

I'm gonna try the IMR's, though. I'm a Joye user. Capacity isn't a factor as I top-off overnight, I'd like to know if they will last a bit longer as the TF/UF family which seem to fade after about 40 cycles.

• Cycle Performance: 90% of initial capacity at 400 cycles
• Cycle life: > 500 cycles

I don't think so.

 

[Vapoorer]

I have not personal seen any test on how long actually the AW IMR18650, 1600mAh LiMN rechargeable battery Life cycle is but AW is known for true information and iam sure even if its not 500 cycles and only half that still it blows away any UF/TF batteries as far as cycle life goes also i here once you reach the 500 charge cycle life the battery doesn't just die it just loose some overall performance they say it goes down and holds around 80% capacity witch you would be lucky if you can even get something anywhere near that with certain UF/TF batteries. i also wanted to picked a couple up just to see what there like but there sold out i just have to wait.

I just got my silver bullet in yesterday and the day before that i received my AW 2600mah batteries and they seem to working good. it will probably take a few charges to accutlly get the full capacity up there,

Quick question on the first few charges should i try to run the battery down to 3.5v the first few times so the battery can charge its fully capacity or is there no memory effect in these batteries and it doesn't matter??? also can i run it lower then 3.5v or no??? the Lowest Discharge Voltage is 2.50V in the AW 2600mah Li-ion battery

Also if anyone is unsure if these batteries will work in the silver bullet because these batteries have no button top (Iam talking about the AW 2600mah batteries) well they do i bought a couple of magnets just in case but not needed they work perfect with no magnet good contact.so iam pretty sure that if you get a silver bullet from this day on they will work with no magnet to create a button top.
but if you want to play it safe then just pick a couple up there only .20cents.
also if anyone has a current sliver bullet and have a copper in color contact then you do not need the magnet spacer but if you have the old style contacts that is gray and silver in color then you will need the magnet spacer also When charging them in a TrustFire TR-001 charger you do not need the magnetic spacer just when you put them in the charger just spin them a little in till you see the light go red this tip came from @Pete54 "thanks for that tip works great" i don't know if this tip works with all charges i only have the TrustFire TR-001 charger.if you have the UltaFire WF-139 charger in the pictures it seem to have the same positive contacts so iam pretty sure this tip will work with this charger also. ("But don't hold me to it")

Now one other question with the AW IMR18650 1600mAh LiMN rechargeable lithium battery if your just using a regular silver bullet and not a DB silver bullet will you notice a difference in performance or no??Because i remember reading earlier in this thread that when using the DB silver bullet you will notice a difference in the vapor,but i dint see unless i missed it anything on if using a regular SB will that give you any increase of vapor performance if you use the AW IMR18650 1600mAh LiMN rechargeable lithium battery

Anyone knows any other website were i can get the AW IMR18650 1600mAh LiMN rechargeable lithium battery because Lighthound.com is sold out right now

 

[rotten76]

Anyone knows any other website were i can get the AW IMR18650 1600mAh LiMN rechargeable lithium battery because Lighthound.com is sold out right now

Lumens Factory they should have them, if you don't mind the wait from China.

 

[Vapoorer]

Lumens Factory they should have them, if you don't mind the wait from China.

Hey thanks iam really in no rush ill pick a couple up from there.

 

[KingVapor]

Vapoorer the magnetic spacer is needed for the old style contact. If you have a copper contact than you don't need the spacer. My BSB is the older style and requires the magnetic spacer, but my DBSB has the new style and is not needed. I don't think I've ever reached the cut off voltage with a standard 510. There is a point where I don't enjoy the vapor and I just switch out the battery. It's OK if you actually reach the cut-off, it won't harm the battery or reduce the lifespan. Li-ion aren't restricted to memory either, so just throw them on the charger whenever you feel like it.

 

[KingVapor]

Now one other question with the AW IMR18650 1600mAh LiMN rechargeable lithium battery if your just using a regular silver bullet and not a DB silver bullet will you notice a difference in performance or no??Because i remember reading earlier in this thread that when using the DB silver bullet you will notice a difference in the vapor,but i dint see unless i missed it anything on if using a regular SB will that give you any increase of vapor performance if you use the AW IMR18650 1600mAh LiMN rechargeable lithium battery

I don't really see a difference. I actually think the AW2600 provides the same amount of vapor for a longer period of time than this battery does. I will be testing the 2600 against the LiMN using a 1.5 ohm atty over the next few days though.

 

[Vapoorer]

Vapoorer the magnetic spacer is needed for the old style contact. If you have a copper contact than you don't need the spacer. My BSB is the older style and requires the magnetic spacer, but my DBSB has the new style and is not needed. I don't think I've ever reached the cut off voltage with a standard 510. There is a point where I don't enjoy the vapor and I just switch out the battery. It's OK if you actually reach the cut-off, it won't harm the battery or reduce the lifespan. Li-ion aren't restricted to memory either, so just throw them on the charger whenever you feel like it.

hey buddy i did say that if you have the old style conector you will need the manetic spacer take a look here:

"also if anyone has a current sliver bullet and have a copper in color contact then you do not need the magnet spacer but if you have the old style contacts that is gray and silver in color then you will need the magnet spacer "

ok thanks for the tip i kind of am the same way once the battery gets to a certain point and they vapor isn't that great i switch the batterys out but i wanted to make sure with these because they were so expensive

 

[markarich159]

Now one other question with the AW IMR18650 1600mAh LiMN rechargeable lithium battery if your just using a regular silver bullet and not a DB silver bullet will you notice a difference in performance or no??Because i remember reading earlier in this thread that when using the DB silver bullet you will notice a difference in the vapor,but i dint see unless i missed it anything on if using a regular SB will that give you any increase of vapor performance if you use the AW IMR18650 1600mAh LiMN rechargeable lithium battery

I have a regular SB(not a DB) and I , honestly, was unable to see any difference in vapor production performance/throat hit between the AW IMR18650 1600mAh LiMn battery and an Ultrafire 18650 2400mAh Li-ion with a 2.2ohm 510 atty. The AW IMR also did not last nearly as long. I personally think you need to be pulling over 2.5 amps to see any discernible advantage with the AW IMR battery.

 

[Vapoorer]

I don't really see a difference. I actually think the AW2600 provides the same amount of vapor for a longer period of time than this battery does. I will be testing the 2600 against the LiMN using a 1.5 ohm atty over the next few days though.

cool i cant wait to see the results yea i dint really see a diffrence but i just wanted to make sure i order 1 just to have. you can never have enough batterys lol

@markarich159 thanks ill keep the battery around just incase the DB come back in stock

 

[USinchains]

I tried the AW IMR in a single barrel BSB, with 2.2ohm 510 and 2.6ohm 401 attys, and was not able to notice a difference between that and the UltrFire LC 18650 2400mAh. But I was able to reduce my battery changing time to 6 seconds.

Have not tested duration.

 

[Mactavish]

I have a regular SB(not a DB) and I , honestly, was unable to see any difference in vapor production performance/throat hit between the AW IMR18650 1600mAh LiMn battery and an Ultrafire 18650 2400mAh Li-ion with a 2.2ohm 510 atty. The AW IMR also did not last nearly as long. I personally think you need to be pulling over 2.5 amps to see any discernible advantage with the AW IMR battery.

Agree on all points, and I have noticed the "shorter" run times as well.

 

[natura]

Interesting how everyone states buy American made and now batteries appear from China that say---> what you want them to say and their the best?

Pretty trusting aren't we?
I've tried to do research on them and I do not read the foreign language in which any info is available. I am not so trusting either. I find it difficult to believe this just happens to arrive in the very sizes that are needed for us. Is it possible they are nothing more then the regular ones? I mean really what assurances do we have on these besides words type on a page written as fact?

 

[WillyB]

Interesting how everyone states buy American made and now batteries appear from China that say---> what you want them to say and their the best?

Pretty trusting aren't we?
I've tried to do research on them and I do not read the foreign language in which any info is available. I am not so trusting either. I find it difficult to believe this just happens to arrive in the very sizes that are needed for us. Is it possible they are nothing more then the regular ones? I mean really what assurances do we have on these besides words type on a page written as fact?

I have no idea what you are trying to say. And about sizes, these are standard size batteries that have been around long before the days of e-cig mods.

 

[Ralph T]

Interesting how everyone states buy American made and now batteries appear from China that say---> what you want them to say and their the best?

Pretty trusting aren't we?

Show me an American made battery in any of the sizes we use? We outsourced all of this kind of manufacturing a long time ago.

I have no idea what you are trying to say. And about sizes, these are standard size batteries that have been around long before the days of e-cig mods.

Yes. These have been used in various laptops and flashlight for a long time. Among other things.

 

[USinchains]

Whoever buys American batteries only must have a pretty small collection, because I have never seen one.