6v is not the answer HIGH DRAIN CELLS is the answer!!

[cddz]

Here is something to ponder concerning these batteries not being protected. They can deliver 16A continuous, what would happen if there is a short? Sounds like a negative post about them but I assure you it is not. Consider this also, the spring in the SB fails(IE collapses) at 8.5A.
Chad

 

[Quick1]

Here is something to ponder concerning these batteries not being protected. They can deliver 16A continuous, what would happen if there is a short? Sounds like a negative post about them but I assure you it is not. Consider this also, the spring in the SB fails(IE collapses) at 8.5A.
Chad

Now THAT's why I've latched onto you guys as my hardware vendor. I got the impression that you actually engineer your stuff where it seems like a lot of others sort of kludge something together, throw it out there, and then do revs on it if it fails in the field.

 

[jboze]

Just ordered one of these. Should be here Sunday. Can't wait to see how it performs on the DBSB. The regular 18650 is leaving me wanting more for sure.

 

[Pete54]

Harpo, I'm with you. I've used the high drain batteries and don't see any difference period. Now if you're trying to drive a dual head SB or a low ohm atty, things that draw more amperage, I believe these are the ticket. Also, if you are using them in series, such as 2x 3.7v CR123's, they are supposed to be much safer. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Wafflestomper]

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Thought the title was "High Brain Cells"

 

[WhatAClumsyGirl]

Here is something to ponder concerning these batteries not being protected. They can deliver 16A continuous, what would happen if there is a short? Sounds like a negative post about them but I assure you it is not. Consider this also, the spring in the SB fails(IE collapses) at 8.5A.
Chad

Are these protected or not ? I'm confused ( of course, that's not unusual )

 

[NatureBoy]

They're not.

 

[WhatAClumsyGirl]

Thanks..i was thinking they were Not sure i want to keep using them if not.

 

[NatureBoy]

I think they're safer in some ways because they're designed for higher drain devices, but because they're not protected, you still have to make sure you don't over-discharge them (as the protective PCB normally regulates on protected cells) and I also read some chargers can overcharge them as well, so you have to keep an eye on that too.

Personally, seems like it's not worth the bother. Maybe it's because I'm lazy? I dunno.. I just don't feel like having to check the batteries with a volt meter all the time.

 

[WhatAClumsyGirl]

I agree....I'm not using them anymore. I don't have a meter and I have no plans on purchasing one. I wouldnt know how to use it anyway.

Anyone here want an extra set of 2 ? I'll make ya a good deal.

 

[cddz]

I agree....I'm not using them anymore. I don't have a meter and I have no plans on purchasing one. I wouldnt know how to use it anyway.

Anyone here want an extra set of 2 ? I'll make ya a good deal.

Sure, was thinking bout buying a couple anyway. PM me the details

 

[Quick1]

Sure, was thinking bout buying a couple anyway. PM me the details

dang it... too late.

Point Chad was making (I think) is that these batteries may be as safe as you can get -- *in this application*. You always need to consider the entire system and not just a single component. These batteries are still within their rated (safe) operating range while delivering almost twice the amount of juice required to melt the spring in your SB. Spring melts, loses tension, and your battery is disconnected at one end or the other because the spring is not holding it up against the terminal anymore. Who knows what kind of heat transfer you will get through the tube from the spring melting but there shouldn't be any sort of venting/explosion/battery failure type of thing. More or less the effect is that it becomes a "protected" battery when used in the SB. The physical discharge rate protection "circuit" (actually it would be a fuse) is the spring.

You do have a valid concern in that there is no under or over charge protection. For overcharge you would be relying on your charger cutoff circuit and for under charge it would just quit making any vapor before that happened. If the button was held down inadvertently after the battery was already very low you could get an undercharge.

(that's my understanding of it anyway)

 

[Vapoorer]

question what do you guy think of these batterys Item Id: AW18650P26 AW 18650 Protected 2600 mAh Rechargeable Lithium Battery - New Version are these good for the silver bullet???

 

[Quick1]

The 14500 (750 mAh) version of those for the BB are just outstanding. They seem to consistently outperform my TrustFire 14500 (900 mAh) batteries. I would expect the same from the larger version.

 

[Vapoorer]

The 14500 (750 mAh) version of those for the BB are just outstanding. They seem to consistently outperform my TrustFire 14500 (900 mAh) batteries. I would expect the same from the larger version.

hey thanks for the info i also just started a thread for them so it can be separate from this thread so people can get a better idea of them ill deffenatlly pic a couple of them up

 

[Mactavish]

hey thanks for the info i also just started a thread for them so it can be separate from this thread so people can get a better idea of them ill deffenatlly pic a couple of them up

When you start a new thread, it is also nice to include a link to it? Otherwise it is difficult to find or follow you!

 

[Vapoorer]

mybad dint think of it at the time here it is:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/altsmoke/77908-battery-any-good-silver-bullet.html

 

[Pete54]

question what do you guy think of these batterys Item Id: AW18650P26 AW 18650 Protected 2600 mAh Rechargeable Lithium Battery - New Version are these good for the silver bullet???

I use those batts and they are great! The only problem is that they are not button top so in some mods you will need to buy a small magnetic spacer (available were you buy the batts) to put on the positive terminal. I believe they have a C rating of 5.2 which will make them work as well as the high drain batts.

 

[Mactavish]

I use those batts and they are great! The only problem is that they are not button top so in some mods you will need to buy a small magnetic spacer (available were you buy the batts) to put on the positive terminal. I believe they have a C rating of 5.2 which will make them work as well as the high drain batts.

These bats are listed as:
Max. Discharge Rate : 5.2A ( ambient temp. 25 ℃ )
Longer "mAh" rating at 2600

The "AW IMR18650 1600mAh LiMN rechargeable lithium battery" is listed as:
Max. continuous discharge rate : 10C
Lower "mAh" rating at 1600

Not sure how to compare these ratings as the first one is rated in "amps=A", not "C", unless this is the same spec?

 

[Elf]

These bats are listed as:
Max. Discharge Rate : 5.2A ( ambient temp. 25 ℃ )
Longer "mAh" rating at 2600

The "AW IMR18650 1600mAh LiMN rechargeable lithium battery" is listed as:
Max. continuous discharge rate : 10C
Lower "mAh" rating at 1600

Not sure how to compare these ratings as the first one is rated in "amps=A", not "C", unless this is the same spec?

To find the Amps, Take the mAH or AH rating and multiply it by the C rating.
For example, the 1600mAH LiMN battery is rated at 10C, so-
1600 * 10(C) =16000 = 16000 mA, or 16 Amp discharge rate- far more powerful than the 5.2 Amp discharge rate of the first battery.

The first battery is 2600 mAH and says max 5.2A discharge rate, so we do this one in reverse to find the C rating-
2600 * (C) = 5.2A (or 5200mA)
C = 5200mA/2600mA = 2
so the C rating of the first battery is 2.

Therefore, the first battery will last longer (2600mAH), but can not crank out as much power on demand (max discharge=5.2 amps).
The second battery does not hold as much (1600mAH), but can crank out over THREE TIMES (!!) the Amps on demand (max discharge=16 Amps!)

Hope this clarifies the funny ratings for you