A list of symptoms when quitting tobacco and changing to an ecigarette

[Bellinghamster]

Hi i just started with e cigs...i am having horrible upper stomach cramps and the runs.... i heard people saying vg might be better???

can someone please explain who sells which kind? they don't seem to be in the product discriptions on most sites.... like the e cig .....not diggin these stomach isssues please help?!

Soooooo much weird stuff can happen... The runs can be a side effect of NOT smoking as much tobacco. I had what I thought was irregular heartbeat when I started - which I first attributed to overdose [FREAKOUT!]... then to heartburn, and then by turns acid reflux, or angina, etc... then mysteriously it completely vanished except for when I use a very specific, very strong bottle of juice. I've not experienced cramping, but I'm sure some have.

I feel you in that sometimes it seems the "cure" is worse than the "disease" [quotes are to indicate I have no medical training whatever], but hang in there and fiddle with your doses to dial it in correctly for you. I was dead set that I had a PG intolerance, but a few weeks in that proved untrue. Think of how sick you got when you started analogs, and expect some of the same as you use less and less tobacco and more vape... All can say is that it's been a few months now, and I feel GREAT! [I hope that's not a bad sign!]

 

[sherid]

I am coughing while e smoking, and it is bothersome. Regular cigs have never caused me to cough. What's up with that?

 

[SpyderDan]

I am coughing while e smoking, and it is bothersome. Regular cigs have never caused me to cough. What's up with that?

Your lungs are starting to function properly now that you are not smoking regular cigs. The cilia in your lungs are no longer being paralyzed by smoke, so they now correctly function to expel the junk in your lungs.

I think this is similar to what many of us heavy smokers experience first thing in the morning, after sleeping for several hours without cigarettes. The cough goes away when you light up and paralyze the cilia in your lungs again.

 

[Frankie]

Did you try to vape glycerin? You might be allergic to PG.

nycsublimegirlI had exactly the same problems in first days of vaping. The cramps were solved by lowering the strenght of my e-juice (diluting with vegetable glycerin) plus some antacid tablets to help with the heartburn, and the second just went away gradually.

 

[spyderuk]

My symptoms during 1st week.

Muscular aches in shoulders. At times it was hard to raise my left arm. Dry sore lips? Maybe PG. Slight headaches after a good vape (My fault and nic?). Smelly gas.

Also all the usual culprits of quitting the cigs, cough, phlegm, stuffy nose etc.

Breathing is getting much better. The stench of smoking friends at work makes me wanna puke so the sense of smell is improving all the time.

 

[sherid]

I am still smoking regular cigs. My goal at the moment is to reduce my smoking. However, I am having a problem doing that when the e cig makes me cough while vaping and the reg cig does not. If anyone has a suggestion, I would appreciate it. Frankie asked, "Did you try to vape glycerin?" No, I did not do that because I don't know how to use it. I need step by step directions if anyone has those.

 

[Frankie]

Easy
Step 1: Buy a bottle of B.P. (pharmaceutical) or U.S.P (food) grade vegetable glycerin. In your country it should be easy in any vitamin shoppe, pharmacy and so on.
Step 2: drop several drops of glycerin in an empty cart (such that you vaped dry or a specially bought dry one. If you want to be sure the used one if free of OG, take out the fiber filling wash it with water and let it dry. DO NOT TOUCH IT WITH BARE FINGERS while it still has some original liguid!)
Step 3: Place back in the cig and vape. It will not satisfy your nic craving, but will tell you if vaping glycerine still makes you cough as much as the original PG liquid. If it does, I cannot help you. If it does not, then:
Step 4: you should consider buying glycerine-based non-PG e-liquid.

Sorry if too ironical. Bad day today. Meant well really.

 

[ladybug51]

I am coughing while e smoking, and it is bothersome. Regular cigs have never caused me to cough. What's up with that?

Hi sherid,

I coughed a lot when I first started and thought it was the GP but I also had COPD and had to stop regular cigs. It did go away after a few days. I have not smoked a real cig. since I started vaping and do quite well. When I get an urge, I puff till it goes away. You've been vaping a while if you started in May. Like Kate said, maybe you're increasing the nic level or trying to decrease. I don't think it would start now after all this time.

SpyderDan is correct about the cough going away when you have a cig. as I have experienced many times.

Suggestion: Don't smoke anymore of the reg. cigs and just on the PG. Try to just break off from them. The cough will go away in a few days w/o the reg. cigs. If it does continue, it could be you DO have an allergy. I just gave it 3-5 day and it went away. I am going to try the VG soon just to see the difference. I was told by JohnsonCreek, where I'm going to get the VG liquid, is the only real difference in vaping the two, is the vapor in the VG has a tendency to linger longer in the air. I am going to try it because I just feel it might be better because it is vegetable based.

Hang in there. Please do try to stop the fags. I feel it will just mask the coughing symptoms.

 

[Satire]

There are many ingredients in e-liquid that cause upper respiratory tract irritation, they are causing you to cough. Try a more basic formula with just nicotine/water/PG, should help with irritation and is much safer than smoking whatever essential oils and random chemicals they decided to throw in for flavor. Also glycerin (not pg) is known to cause headaches, nausea, vomiting, and mutation (with chronic use), so switching to PG might be wise. I'm working on a write-up that has a list of every eliquid ingredient that I have seen listed and what is known about its safety effects (I know I said that a month ago but I had finals and ran out of stimulants and just got more yesterday so its back to the grindstone) but I thought I would give advance warning about the Glycerin mutation capability and if anyone wants the reference for that just msg me, or just wait till I finish the list and I'll put references for it all.

 

[ladybug51]

There are many ingredients in e-liquid that cause upper respiratory tract irritation, they are causing you to cough. Try a more basic formula with just nicotine/water/PG, should help with irritation and is much safer than smoking whatever essential oils and random chemicals they decided to throw in for flavor. Also glycerin (not pg) is known to cause headaches, nausea, vomiting, and mutation (with chronic use), so switching to PG might be wise. I'm working on a write-up that has a list of every eliquid ingredient that I have seen listed and what is known about its safety effects (I know I said that a month ago but I had finals and ran out of stimulants and just got more yesterday so its back to the grindstone) but I thought I would give advance warning about the Glycerin mutation capability and if anyone wants the reference for that just msg me, or just wait till I finish the list and I'll put references for it all.

Thank You and amen! I really appreciate what you are doing. I have been trying to research the ingredients from a scare I got from a site that listed them. Never thought about the flavor ingredients. Thanks for the up on VG. I was just going to ask if anyone has tried it. I am going to buy the PG brand but now I'm concerned about the flavorings.

You speak of a basis formula. Can you buy it and were? If it's homemade, I need step by step directions.

I am almost out of PG and need to order. can you give me any healthier guidance here?

Thank you. Bug

 

[ladybug51]

In addition to what Satire and I have said below, another culprit could be adding to vaping side effects.

A vitamin D deficiency occurring more so in the winter can have a big effect on our breathing. My sis did a lot of research on asthma; my neice had it bad! Her vit. D was almost depleted. A simple blood test will tell you. Had mine tested last week and found I am. Mr.Darcy and I have talked on this site about it 1-2 pages back. All of this is worth reading for us vapers.

Winter/less light months plays a role in a lot of the symptoms listed in here. Our side effects could be in conjunction with others that aren't really related like a cold or bug coming on. Sun is important too. Because the days are shorter, we get less or none.

We all should be exposed to sun in one way or another 10-20 minutes per day.We should also be getting at least 5 hours of uninterrupted sleep. All this effects our mental and physical well being.

 

[No burn baby]

There are many ingredients in e-liquid that cause upper respiratory tract irritation, they are causing you to cough. Try a more basic formula with just nicotine/water/PG, should help with irritation and is much safer than smoking whatever essential oils and random chemicals they decided to throw in for flavor. Also glycerin (not pg) is known to cause headaches, nausea, vomiting, and mutation (with chronic use), so switching to PG might be wise. I'm working on a write-up that has a list of every eliquid ingredient that I have seen listed and what is known about its safety effects (I know I said that a month ago but I had finals and ran out of stimulants and just got more yesterday so its back to the grindstone) but I thought I would give advance warning about the Glycerin mutation capability and if anyone wants the reference for that just msg me, or just wait till I finish the list and I'll put references for it all.

You remain to be The Vapers' Hero Satire, I can't wait to read your report!

 

[jacknthemonkeys]

I've been vaping for over a month now and for the last two weeks i've had bad bronchitis and some Mouth Ulcers.

I've been using my Albuterol inhaler for the bronchitis, I've read that anti-biotics will make bronchitis stronger in the long run so i didnt take them this time. It was suggested by someone that quit smoking and got bronchitis to use an expectorant and not a suppressant for the cough as to get it all out of the lungs.

The bronchitis is getting alittle better but i still can't get a full hit off my e-cig with out coughing.

Hopefully when the bronc goes away i can really start to enjoy vaping again.

 

[ladybug51]

I've been vaping for over a month now and for the last two weeks i've had bad bronchitis and some Mouth Ulcers.

I've been using my Albuterol inhaler for the bronchitis, I've read that anti-biotics will make bronchitis stronger in the long run so i didnt take them this time. It was suggested by someone that quit smoking and got bronchitis to use an expectorant and not a suppressant for the cough as to get it all out of the lungs.

The bronchitis is getting alittle better but i still can't get a full hit off my e-cig with out coughing.

Hopefully when the bronc goes away i can really start to enjoy vaping again.

Hi,

I've had a lung condition for some time and had to quit or die. The albuterol inhaler will cause white patches/ulcers. You need to rinse your mouth out each time you use it. The doc doesn't tell you but the instructions inside do. I just swish a little water real well and spit.

I personally wouldn't use antibiotics unless on my death bed or close to it. They are so bad for the body and you build up an immunity to them after a while if taking the same one several times. Your body has a way of taking care of itself unless you really get bad. People suppress fevers. The fever is the bodies way of fighting what's wrong.

You can take a cough suppressant with an expectorant in it. It calms the cough down and when you do cough, it's productive. And yes, the bronchitis can make you cough when you vape. It did me for a few days. Robitussin DM is good and there's usually a store generic brand of it. Same exact ingredients; less money.

Maybe you can vape with the supressant. If not, a cig. will be worse on the lungs. It needs to heal. Vaping might make you cough, but you won't get the crap that makes the bronc. worse. Rest, lots of liquid, and healthy food. Rest is real important. Hey, that old remedy of chicken soup really works. Just don't buy crappy soup. Buy the real broth and throw some things in it. Like your own noodles and some real chicken or vegetables. It really helps.

Hope you feel better soon and I hope this helped some.
Bug

 

[nqhqhz]

Here's an interesting symptom I've been getting (first post by the way, hello everyone):

This has happened since I stopped analogs.

When I am falling asleep, I have been hearing a strange noise (it sounds like stretching or tearing, but very high pitched like a pulse-dial (rotary) telephone ringing. The onomatopeia is either zzzzzzzzzzzRRRRch or VRrrrrING! If you try to blow air through the corner of your mouth so that your teeth create bubbles you can get a similar sound. It is accompanied by an "electric shock" sensation in my head (also known as a Brain Zap and will be very familar to anyone who has ever taken a Serotonin and Norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor such as Effexor and some of the other new antidepressants).

[pseudoscience]
It could be due to altered brain chemistry since I am probably getting a different nicotine blood concentration.
[/pseudoscience]

This is, believe it or not, similar to something called

EXPLODING HEAD SYNDROME

...I suggest googling it as I cannot post urls...

I'd be interested to hear if anyone else's head is exploding

 

[ladybug51]

Here's an interesting symptom I've been getting (first post by the way, hello everyone):

[pseudoscience]
It could be due to altered brain chemistry since I am probably getting a different nicotine blood concentration.
[/pseudoscience]
I'd be interested to hear if anyone else's head is exploding

Hi and welcome,

You seem to be knowledgeable in the brain's activity in regards to neurotransmission from your wording. I am knowledgeable of this also but do not care to divulge why. I personally have not had any changes in brain function or reactions since I stopped cigarettes. Let's think on this and what really is the question you are asking and why.

All I am doing is omitting everything that is in the cigarette except the nicotine. I am however adding the PG and any additives in the flavoring. I personally have not been affected in any way since December 9th except from coughing due to a lung problem that has cleared considerably since I stopped the cigarettes. The additives I speak of can be found in common day foods, food additives, and what not. I might add that there isn't any long term studies done that I know of as to the results of smoking e-cigarettes. Most side effects are from too much nicotine or too little. Simple so far and adjustable as we use them.

I would suggest you talk with your Doctor if you are on a medication for the reasons you described. It is quite possible that they are not related at all and you need to seek medical advise in regards to what you are taking.

If you feel they could be linked, I would discontinue use of the e-cig immediately and talk with your health care provider before using it again.

Bug

 

[Frankie]

I knew they were too good to be true. Yes, they helped me stop smoking and cured my ingrown toenail, but now... they are going to explode my head?

 

[ladybug51]

I knew they were too good to be true. Yes, they helped me stop smoking and cured my ingrown toenail, but now... they are going to explode my head?

U mean mine will go away 2? What about my wart? You hoot!
Have a Happy New Year ... if you must.

 

[ladybug51]

Where'd you go Frankie? Run you rat!

You leave a reply like that and leave? You brat! Love it. Where did he come from, the Twighlite Zone? Doo dee do do, doo dee do do. To the tune of? Or are you too young to remember it.

I was going to send this privately but couldn't resist.

Who else?

PS: Interesting symptom left too. I think somebody's yanking me chain, and me no like it.

 

[Misty]

Here's an interesting symptom I've been getting (first post by the way, hello everyone):
....
I'd be interested to hear if anyone else's head is exploding

Hi,

Nicotine, as well as nicotine patches, increase the level of wakefullness you will experience, while drifting off to sleep.

This will result an increased level of lucidity while approaching the borderline of sleep, which may result in various hypnanogogic hallucinations that are also commonly experienced during sleep paralysis - like the buzzing sounds you hear

They are not real bodily sensations, but simply the result of increased wakefullness at the borderline of sleep.

Nicotine is popular supplement among lucid dreamers for example, who try to become aware and alert during dreams. Nicotine has also been reported to result in more vivid dreams.

Another substance with the same effect is galantamine, which inhibits acetylcholine reuptake in the synapses. Nicotine actually attaches to these receptors increasing your overall level of wakefullness.

Pleasant during the day, but annoying when drifting off to sleep, making your mind alert and awake when it ordinarily isn't.

Good for those who like to be alert and awake while dreaming, but bad for those who only want to sleep.