A list of symptoms when quitting tobacco and changing to an ecigarette

Status
Not open for further replies.

ladybug51

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Dec 13, 2008
544
0
Southern CA, USA
Hi,

Nicotine is popular supplement among lucid dreamers for example, who try to become aware and alert during dreams. Nicotine has also been reported to result in more vivid dreams.

OOPS! I was just having some fun with Frankie. Now this part I like. I love to dream and usually don't, or don't remember them too well. Maybe I should vape more before bed.;)

This has been a strange but interesting day for me Misty. No one invited me to eat with them this time and I'm hungry. So instead, I came here looking for something to do and ate pizza leftovers.
Bug
 

nqhqhz

Full Member
Verified Member
Jan 1, 2009
66
0
Ireland
Interesting replies; incidentally, I do not know too much about these things, my girlfriend is a pharmacologist and is my backup on any scientific stuff.

By the way I don't wish to cause alarm or concern, this symptom, which I regard as interesting rather than bad, is common enough in healthy people. I included a reference to exploding head syndrome because of the hilarious name and because it is a disorder which includes the symptom, but I don't think I have the disorder. I am simply more susceptible to this (I got it a lot when coming off an SSRI once)

What misty says is correct to my knowledge- and I'd add that hypnagogic and hypnopompic hallucinations are in my experience common in one who makes any change in diet, sleep pattern, drug or medicine use, and are definitely nothing to be concerned about. I would say that this is just a manifestation of a symptom listed above, that is to say, sleep disturbance.

In addition, chewing sugarfree gum before bed (not nicotine gum obviously!) has been helpful for me in this regard, my theory is that it rebalances the delicate state of the inner ear.

Another substance with the same effect is galantamine, which inhibits acetylcholine reuptake in the synapses. Nicotine actually attaches to these receptors increasing your overall level of wakefullness.

You sound like a knowledgeable practitioner of lucid dreaming to me, you might be interested that my ability to lucid dream has at least temporarily increased since using e-cigarettes, even without acetylcholine precursors (which I usually take as choline supplements) or Calea Zacatechici which I would sometimes drink as a tea with an evening cigarette.

Also ladybug thank you for your concern; however I am not on any medication for anything, naturally if I or a loved one was on psychiatric medication I would avoid using e-cigarettes as, since as Misty mentions above nicotine is multiple agonist, a suspected monoamine oxidase inhibitor (i.e. similar to some old school antidepressants) and has some dopamine related effects. By altering the amount of nicotine you take you run the risk of interfering with your medication. The same thing is true of patches and lozenges.
 

ladybug51

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Dec 13, 2008
544
0
Southern CA, USA
Also ladybug thank you for your concern; however I am not on any medication for anything, naturally if I or a loved one was on psychiatric medication I would avoid using e-cigarettes as, since as Misty mentions above nicotine is multiple agonist, a suspected monoamine oxidase inhibitor (i.e. similar to some old school antidepressants) and has some dopamine related effects. By altering the amount of nicotine you take you run the risk of interfering with your medication. The same thing is true of patches and lozenges.

I do apologize if you took offense to my poking fun with another. I seem to be correcting myself too often. Now apologizing. Thank you for being so gracious. I think I best end this evening and give my overworked brain a rest.

I do hope you find out for sure what is causing this. It seems like Misty has an avenue worth exploring. Because there is so little known about the e-cigs, I felt caution should be taken.

I wish you well.;)
 

ladybug51

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Dec 13, 2008
544
0
Southern CA, USA
At the risk of TMI, this is an embarrassing thing. I heard someone mention it before, forgot who, couldn't find the post.

I get some awful smelling flatulence. It's sometimes worse than others. It is not from what I am eating; I've kept track. I've been vaping since Nov. 9th and it still happens. It has it's own definite smell.

It could be I'm vaping too much? certain times? I know others have has this. Do you know why? Did it stop? Ideas anyone?

Thank you,
Bug
 

katink

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Apr 24, 2008
1,210
4
the Netherlands
Ladybug, I think many are stuck with that for a couple of months ('poison leaving your body in all ways possible' remember?)

And nqhqhz, I recognize what you are talking about exactly too... I went from full smoking (a lót) to full e-vaping within a day... and then I entered a really strange period... for a couple of weeks (3 to 4 if I remember correctly) I was (first increasingly, from about 1 to 1 1/2 weeks in decreasingly) ill. Bit flu-like indeed. And just like you, the strangest part about it was... I felt sick, for sure... and at the very same time could feel myself getting healthier by the day, by the hour almost... and both situations were occuring at the same time. Strangest episode of my life as to health-issues...

After those weeks of 'leaving-the-tobacco-sickness' everything cleared up again, and I could go on feeling myself about 3 flights of steps higher up on the ladder as to health. :)
 

swanee

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Dec 29, 2008
173
1
40
me fi
I tried to stop smoking right when i ordered my e cig and made it three days before smoking again and i can tell you i had some pretty wicked almost flu like symptoms.None of which have i had with vapor. Accept mild stomach cramping but i don't think it has anything to do with vaping as it started this morning before i recieved my ecig.
 

ladybug51

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Dec 13, 2008
544
0
Southern CA, USA
Ladybug, I think many are stuck with that for a couple of months ('poison leaving your body in all ways possible' remember?)

Couple months! Oh joy. So socializing is out. I never know when one will sneak out. Like no control. Soooooo embarrassing. OOH.:oops:

I have noticed other things, some, like nicotine smelling urine which I know from other nic. products I've tried, going away.

But my skin texture is changing. Bumps, not zits, and very dry. Moisturize a lot and it is still dry and feels like my face is cracking.

Also, crusty eyelids just a touch.

My sis said once, the skin bumps, like ingrown hair, are lack of niacin. I just found out my vitamin D is depleted. Maybe I am niacin deficient also.

Anyone else notice/having these things?
 

ZambucaLu

ECF Guru
Supporting Member
ECF Veteran
Nov 23, 2008
10,262
22
Central NY, USA
Due to "feeling dry", I notice I now drink almost a gallon of liquid a day. Pee a lot....LOL

But really, I find myself constantly drinking after vaping. I really haven't noticed dry eyes or skin....more my mouth and throat.

Oh to add something else...I know you can get headaches from dehydration (think hangover) so whenever I feel any little headache startin', I up the fluids. If this stuff does dry you out, dehydration can wreak havoc on your body.

Lu
 
Last edited:

ladybug51

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Dec 13, 2008
544
0
Southern CA, USA
Due to "feeling dry", I notice I now drink almost a gallon of liquid a day. Pee a lot....LOL

But really, I find myself constantly drinking after vaping. I really haven't noticed dry eyes or skin....more my mouth and throat.

Oh to add something else...I know you can get headaches from dehydration (think hangover) so whenever I feel any little headache startin', I up the fluids. If this stuff does dry you out, dehydration can wreak havoc on your body.

Lu

I haven't been drinking my usual amount. My hummers drinking it up. A gal. a day is good. Thanks for reminding me.
 

Mscoffee

Full Member
ECF Veteran
Dec 5, 2008
46
2
N. of seattle Wa. USA
Head not as stuffy :thumb:


Face broke out a bit for a couple days but that's getting better now:)

Soar throat - seems to be an on-off thing:?:

Overfilling my cart getting liquid on my lips will makes them tingle and they are getting chapped so I'm using chapstick.....
already a bit of a junky on that stuff :oops:

Teeth started hurting in the evenings.... not liking this part at all :cry:

Memory loss - about 10 minute, tucked my m401 behind my ear and couldn't find the damn thing :lol:
 

Di

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Oct 30, 2008
10,164
16
*Australia*
I have been vapin' for 65 days now,
and I have also -

my skin texture is changing.
Bumps, not zits, and very dry.

lots of dead skin cells,
like dandruff when I towel after showering.

Also, crusty eyelids one more than the other.

and ladybug,
you got it,

I haz faaaaartz !!!!!
staze away from peeplz.

must be old age buddy ------

incontinentia flatulencia buttocks !!!!!!!!

Di ........
 

ladybug51

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Dec 13, 2008
544
0
Southern CA, USA
I have been vapin' for 65 days now,
and I have also -

and ladybug,
you got it,

I haz faaaaartz !!!!!
staze away from peeplz.

must be old age buddy ------

incontinentia flatulencia buttocks !!!!!!!!

Di ........

At least I'm not the only one in hiding.8-o You hoot! We have too much in common.
 

ladybug51

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Dec 13, 2008
544
0
Southern CA, USA
I have an outbreak of ingrown hairs and would like to know if any one else has had this so I can see if it might be attributed to vaping.

Another member of the club Di. Kaston, scroll down to ladybug and dikerry and more info further down. I have been using a gentle loofah, body butter in areas, lots of lotion, and still have flakey skin. The bumps? I'll keep using the loofah and hopefully it will help both these side effects.

Also, do you live in a dry area? That makes it worse as I know.

Best to you,
Bug
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread