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Rocketpunk

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coils, clearos, and cartos, etc. can't be QC'd by the stores since those are sealed and disposables to begin with, but mods, like mechanicals for example, can be QCd at the store before it's sold to consumers. It's one way for the store to save themselves the trouble of complaints. One less trouble that could be eliminated.

Word, you're completely right. I can't say more than this, but we emphasize trying it out first. If sold and issues arise, 30 day warranty. I can't go further than that without breaking forum rules.

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Hmm...the centerpin isn't adjustable on that thing is it? Tried backing it as far upwards as possible to give the battery more room? Other than that...I've got nothin. Take it back, show them the problem, and get a mod that'll work for you. Any shop worth their salt, seeing this problem, will fix the problem.
 

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Hmm...the centerpin isn't adjustable on that thing is it? Tried backing it as far upwards as possible to give the battery more room? Other than that...I've got nothin. Take it back, show them the problem, and get a mod that'll work for you. Any shop worth their salt, seeing this problem, will fix the problem.

It doesn't have a center pin. It's just a hole in the top of it. The atty makes direct contact to the battery.
 

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It's not nearly as long as {MODERATED}. If it was it would work flawlessly :D

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I know this is a poor way to show what the problem is but if you look at the actual mod tube height and look at all of the parts that fit inside the mod while stacked on an AW 18650, minus the very top rim that doesn't go into the mod but sits flush on the top of it maybe you can see that there is absolutely no room for any throw in the firing button. Instant auto fire.
You claim to know a lot about mech mods but using an AW battery for any mod other then a Provari is not a good ideal. Get the right equipment for the job. Flat top vtc4/5 would be a good start. Also 49s and 29s are super sensitive to positive pin placement and should only be used by advanced vapors. I've seen a lot of so called experts destroy even good 30amp batteries with hybrid style mods..
 
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You claim to know a lot about mech mods but using an AW battery for any mod other then a Provari is not a good ideal. Get the right equipment for the job. Flat top vtc4/5 would be a good start. Also 49s and 29s are super sensitive to positive pin placement and should only be used by advanced vapors. I've seen a lot of so called experts destroy even good 30amp batteries with hybrid style mods..

I have various batteries. I don't go super low sub ohm on any of my coils. I usually vape around 0.5 to 0.8 ohms. AW batteries are capable of that. {MODERATED}
 
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It doesn't have a center pin. It's just a hole in the top of it. The atty makes direct contact to the battery.

Now apply that logic and subtract the Atty Pin length from Battery room.

I have already advised several users on the proper setup for a 4 Nine. If you simply think you can slap a battery in and it will work - you are the Mods problem.

Short Atty 510 = Button Top
Long Atty 510 = Flat top
Recessed Center pin = instant short and dead magnets

Short atty 510 and flat top = long throw or no contact (will not fire)
Long atty and button top = extremely short throw or auto fire

ALL True 79mm 4Nines work this way due to the Fixed Position Switch

our problem is not the 4Nine. It is your refusal to set it up properly with a correct fitting atty and battery.
Only solution - hope for a refund and get something more user friendly.
 

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I have various batteries. I don't go super low sub ohm on any of my coils. I usually vape around 0.5 to 0.8 ohms. AW batteries are capable of that. {MODERATED}

Rant but won't accept help or possibly useful information. Seen that here before. At least listen and try what veterans are telling you. If all else fails, go bleeping Rambo.

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Now apply that logic and subtract the Atty Pin length from Battery room.

I have already advised several users on the proper setup for a 4 Nine. If you simply think you can slap a battery in and it will work - you are the Mods problem.

Short Atty 510 = Button Top
Long Atty 510 = Flat top
Recessed Center pin = instant short and dead magnets

Short atty 510 and flat top = long throw or no contact (will not fire)
Long atty and button top = extremely short throw or auto fire

ALL True 79mm 4Nines work this way due to the Fixed Position Switch

our problem is not the 4Nine. It is your refusal to set it up properly with a correct fitting atty and battery.
Only solution - hope for a refund and get something more user friendly.

This guy... please get out of my thread. The damn mod is too short. What can you not understand? Ride out.....
 

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It always helps to do some research first, and know what you're buying.

I had an ebay seller advertise a mod as an Infinite clone. That isn't what I received. I knew as soon as I saw it and sent it back.

I was in my local B&M Friday night. They had an Infinite Stingray X, which I want. However, when I asked if they had the hybrid adapter they tried to tell me the X doesn't come with one. I know it does. So I chose not to buy it ;)

If you can't tell in the store if its good or bad quality and all the parts are there, I think you should do some research before purchasing. It doesn't excuse a vendor from lying about the product, but we, as consumers, need to shop smart, too. Authentics, clones, fake batteries. There's a lot of scamming in this industry. And its because we aren't educating ourselves sometimes, and continue to support sleazy vendors. Don't buy anything from them if you feel they are cheating you. If you feel they didn't know what they were selling, well, then you need to know what you're buying.
 

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If your mod has a legit manufacturing defect, yes, take it back to the store you purchased it from. Unless it's still not in a dumpster.

Go in politely, explain your situation in a calm manner. Let the store inspect the mod. If your claims are true, if it's within warranty, you should be credited a refund or an exchange. Getting duds is not uncommon. It happens. How you choose to resolve the issue (raging on the B&M or threating a lawsuit) will definitely get you what you want. The squeaky wheel always gets the grease.

After that, do yourself and THEM a favor and never go back.



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1:1 woo hoo .This guy believes in something he sees posted on Alibaba which totally scares me. The biggest scams are on Alibaba.

No, I believe the Pic YOU Posted that clearly looks like a correct 4Nine.

Keep quoting and acting like this and I'll keep responding. Your choice.
You have yet to prove anything beyond your attitude in this thread and your desire NOT to take any advice from anyone.

Have you even bothered to measure the Nod as suggested?
 

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1:1 woo hoo .This guy believes in something he sees posted on Alibaba which totally scares me. The biggest scams are on Alibaba.

Dude, your mod was made to work with flat top batteries. It shouldn't take hours of tinkering to figure it out. Some mods are made to work with only button top and some will work with both. I have all three types and use the appropriate batteries in each. The length of threads on you atomizer will also effect the switch throw on a hybrid top mod. The B&M is not at fault and the manufacturer is not at fault. If you don't like it that's on you and no one else.
 

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Dude, your mod was made to work with flat top batteries. It shouldn't take hours of tinkering to figure it out. Some mods are made to work with only button top and some will work with both. I have all three types and use the appropriate batteries in each. The length of threads on you atomizer will also effect the switch throw on a hybrid top mod. The B&M is not at fault and the manufacturer is not at fault. If you don't like it that's on you and no one else.

There was no warning when buying the mod that said "the throw on this switch is so damn short that it will instantly fire when using button top 18650s. The only thing the manufacturer had to do when making the mod to make it work with ALL 18650s was to make it 3 to 4 millimeters longer. Plain and simple. I can not understand why all of these "know it alls" keep trying to find ways to say that the mod isn't a piece of ...., when in fact it is simply a piece of .... that should be taken off the market.
 

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Buyers remorse. Suck it up and live another day. In the end, there was a moment of choice. You chose to buy something you weren't happy with. Did you get a tingle in the back of your head after handing over your money? Were you hesitant at all? If so, save your money next time, exercise caution, and listen to advice offered.
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I would like to tell the op that he should pay attention to what those whom are trying to help are saying.

I also have a 4 nine clone and at first I had similar problems to what the op described. It took me a little while to understand how to set it up properly, (by searching you tube mostly). It now works properly and it is a joy to use.

In my case it was user fault that were causing the problems. I bet it is the same in problem for the op. He should have taken it back to the B&M. They probably would have shown him how to set it up.

Alibaba, Fasttech are pretty good vendors. I often deal with them and have never been sorry. In my experiences dealing with Fasttech, they will ALWAYS without a fuss correct a buyer's complaint.
 
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