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glauserjg

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Don't kid yourself. I and many other couldn't tell the difference if you closed your eyes. If you were getting dry hits, you built it wrong. Imeo is right. It'll vape the same. Quality wise, it just isn't there.

I wasnt kidding myself they did not vape the same at all

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Stelioss how about you send me the achilles temporary so I can do the review and ill send it back to you.


It would be my pleasure to send it to you my friend!!! You're a trusted guy in our GG family. It's not a coincidence that you have 1 of 4 prototypes JGG and you're high in the wiki list.

But as imeo told you, it's meaningless.
The prototype that I have in my hands, is the first attempt of imeo tries.
There have been more. And that's the reason I'm saying - and I wrote in my previous post - that imeo spends lots of money and time for every GG product.

Mine, is not even like the one you saw in imeo's video ( I hope you saw it) and it has many issues.
Issues that have been copied, with Achilles together as a package!!!
I don't want to talk about the issues (although I gave a little tip) because I hope some day our "Thanasis" will bring Achilles in life.


PS: Keep the good work in your videos buddy :thumbs:
 
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Its would be like if you compare Ithaka and Ithaka clones Bish. They both vape the same. Clones doesnt have the same quality and will not last very long of course but its still the same vape

Imeo Imeo Imeo

I love you man but I have to say the clones are not the same. I cant tell you how many times I get emails of stupid silly clones on how they can make it better. The truth is they cant you need the real thing. Example case in point someone sent me this photo of ithaka clone and look at it closely of the seals and torque. They complain of results when in fact its to do with bad craftmen ship. if it was a 1:1 clone we would see everything the same. and as you can see from picture nothing is the same or people would not email me these problems.

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No Brass pin no oring, white seals crap and the nut inside ceramic horrible construction. Im just grateful GG is made in GREECE and its free from Chinas poor quality measures.
 
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Thank you for the picture and the info Bish. I never had a clone so I didnt know what is going on with them.

To speak the truth, I was just lucky that I found this guy in Greece. Most machine shops here arent what I needed but this guy was born to bring my designs in life in a very proffesional way.
 

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I have to make it totally different now after this issue glaus but that requires time, something that I dont have now because I am making new Penelope, I make new designs for Proteus, a new thing for Ithaka users and another new thing that I havent announce yet.

Let these copiers make whatever they like, I will continue innovating things without the need to encounter with anyone. I made my point and thats it. Let these boys have a little fun until the next GG project.

I agree not to announce anything (but nothing )Imeo
I guess there are enough opinions posted by us or those with whom we come or our desires
rest brunt think you have a team that take the final decision
and I see that final decisions are like no other
new GGPP I'm sure you get something super
Ithaka ,,new thing,, must have !Have to do !:) ... ,,Normal,, Ithaka is too good ..is ..boring good ;)
my opinion
 
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Itshak

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You are absolutely right Gobra.

Better not to announce anything also by some of us.
We all have ideas and maybe a clue on what will come,
But we should remmeber this forum is a big stage.
Bigger then we think.
We post here and see those who post but there are a lot of viewers who seat in the "balcony"
And read every word we write,not only Imeo words.
Some of those viewers are guest as we were,and we welcome them here,on there free time.(sooner the better guys:))
And some are competitors and that's fine because nothing can be done regarding that.
Now I don't write what I discover or understand
beyond the normal thing we post here,as it may spoil Imeo efforts to make
more future top quality designs for us.(PM are better for this stuff,and he read them all and answer them all!)
there for we all learn to except this situation as test pilots know they can't speak
freely on future production aircrafts that they are testing or aware of.
In the end of the day we all share common responsibility for all vapers out there,without GG achievement
that push all market to better designs and push back Imeo to outdone himself time after time,
We could use clearos or cartos for the next 20 years.
In other words progress like it was in analog days,
every 50 years maybe a better filter design!!!lol
We really don't want that:)
 
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