Alexander Mundy's Magic Twisted Ribbon
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Its hard to tell what is going on in this image, but it is .8mm.1mm Mundy's magic wrapped 4 times around ceramic wick with a SS inner core on an RSST. Comes in at .45 ohms. Initial taste isn't all that good, but I am going to give it a few days to work itself in. I took a pretty bad burnt hit after I thought I got all the hot spots out....I was wrong. Now I think that burnt taste is in the wick...even though the ceramic doesn't really burn.
We will see.
We will see.
I believe you will find .8 X .1 to have too much surface area especially with ceramic wick.
I tried my standard .6 X .07 with AO wick and had to squonk every draw for it to keep up.
I can go without a wick if I squonk every time and cover the coil with the squonk as a comparison.
I tried my standard .6 X .07 with AO wick and had to squonk every draw for it to keep up.
I can go without a wick if I squonk every time and cover the coil with the squonk as a comparison.
I believe you will find .8 X .1 to have too much surface area especially with ceramic wick.
I tried my standard .6 X .07 with AO wick and had to squonk every draw for it to keep up.
I can go without a wick if I squonk every time and cover the coil with the squonk as a comparison.
Yep.....you are correct. I cannot keep it from burning and dry hitting. Will spin up some of the smaller stuff today and try that.
Okay, turned it horizontal and re wicked it. Ran cotton through the middle then wrapped the cotton ends around dual SS 500 mesh wicks. Wrapped one strand of cotton yarn around the whole mess just to keep it together better. Taste is amazing and no dry hits.
Now I only have one more problem. See how dark that cotton is already? That is only after 30 mins of use. After today it will be black. I only get 1 day out of my cotton. Is it my fluid? I am using Vaperite VR4 0 and 6 nic mixed at 50/50 to get to 3 nic. It is 50/50 PG/VG although I am going back to the 70/30 PG/VG for flavor. Am I pulling too light or too hard? I see pics of people's set up after a week or two and it looks fairly new. Yes I am a pretty heavy vaper. Going through about 20 ml a day....lol. Is that a lot?
.8mmx.1mm Kanthal flat is what I started with.
Now I only have one more problem. See how dark that cotton is already? That is only after 30 mins of use. After today it will be black. I only get 1 day out of my cotton. Is it my fluid? I am using Vaperite VR4 0 and 6 nic mixed at 50/50 to get to 3 nic. It is 50/50 PG/VG although I am going back to the 70/30 PG/VG for flavor. Am I pulling too light or too hard? I see pics of people's set up after a week or two and it looks fairly new. Yes I am a pretty heavy vaper. Going through about 20 ml a day....lol. Is that a lot?
.8mmx.1mm Kanthal flat is what I started with.
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Ok, now back to the magic
... yes, 20ml/day is ALOT
Is that a direct drip device or is it a bottom feed? If its a dripping device I could see that the cotton is not staying saturated. That is a lotta wick you got there, with my REO I have just enough wick on each side of the coil to touch the bottom. But since you are a heavy vaper I can see why you would want to hold the juice in the wick to save the time/hassle of dripping constantly.
Although, I have two juices from the same company; one is a raspberry and one is an apple flavor. With the raspberry my coil/wick never gunks up or get black, but with the apple after about a day i seem to get black build up on my coil leading to a very unpleasant taste untill i rewick/dryburn.
PS Nice lookin coil btw!
Its an RSST, so it is a tank on bottom with vertical wicks. I drilled out the original refill hole to make it a wick hole. Then, drilled out a new refill hole on the opposite side of the negative post. Yes, I prefer something with a tank so I do not have to constantly drip. Although my dual nano coil dripper set up is super nice.
Yeah I could cut back on wick. I just run it through then wrap the extra cotton around the SS. The yarn is just there to hold everything in semi tight because the wicks kind of flop around in the hole. It is pretty quick, but I am tired of having to re wick everyday. I was just hoping it was something I was doing with the pull.
I don't think I actually go through 20ml a day via vaping. I use 20ml a day because I am constantly tinkering and having to rewick and prime those wicks. I am probably closer to 10ml a day.....which I am assuming is still a lot.
Yeah I could cut back on wick. I just run it through then wrap the extra cotton around the SS. The yarn is just there to hold everything in semi tight because the wicks kind of flop around in the hole. It is pretty quick, but I am tired of having to re wick everyday. I was just hoping it was something I was doing with the pull.
I don't think I actually go through 20ml a day via vaping. I use 20ml a day because I am constantly tinkering and having to rewick and prime those wicks. I am probably closer to 10ml a day.....which I am assuming is still a lot.
1.2mm but I had to saturate the wick each time.
With your long draws it would never handle it.
What Xo said about your juice consumption jj - holy cow I go through about 5ml at most.
Some juices will have the cotton still looking new after a day and some will turn it dark.
Funny thing is you can't necessarily go by the juice color itself for a rule of thumb.
I change wick in my only RM2 at least once a day to change flavors so it doesn't discolor except with TFA caramel.
Some juices will have the cotton still looking new after a day and some will turn it dark.
Funny thing is you can't necessarily go by the juice color itself for a rule of thumb.
I change wick in my only RM2 at least once a day to change flavors so it doesn't discolor except with TFA caramel.
With my juice, my cotton and coil get super funky rather fast, but oddly, the NEMP actually seasons your wire and the wick into perfect harmony. I have several wicks in my boxes that have been on the same wick for days now. They just keep getting better with age.
I've tried making several standard, driver, crack, etc coils with all different gauges, etc... I just can't get better than a 4-wrap of magic with the monkey poo.
I've tried making several standard, driver, crack, etc coils with all different gauges, etc... I just can't get better than a 4-wrap of magic with the monkey poo.
1.2mm but I had to saturate the wick each time.
With your long draws it would never handle it.
Very good then. I see.
. . . . . . . . so I'm not allowed to try it then.
Well.
Thank you!
That is some awesome equipment you have.
Now for questions:
1) what wrap ID & turns & resistance?
2) what mod & atty, or better yet the coil voltage?
3) with wick & juice?
ID not sure, just used a small screwdriver. Guessing 5/64. 4 wraps. .4ohms. KTS+ with an RSST. I forgot to take coil voltage just because I was goofing around. I am doing a lot of IR stuff for another thread about wire temps. It is in the main modding forum. These are just initial tests.
Wick is cotton and juice is 70/30 vaperite VR4.
Here are some more that are "tuned" and one in the red/blue format that most people are familiar with.
Yes I am blessed with test equipment. I own a test and measurement supply company. I myself am a thermographier. We also own an infrared testing and inspection business.
The camera I am using is a 640x480 detector, which is super high for the world of IR. Camera is in the $22k range.
I am goofing around with the settings right now to get an accurate temp. If I had to guess, this temp is probably off 15F-25F on the low side. I have the emissivity at .93 on this and I have a feeling this coil is at .95 to .96. Maybe higher once it reaches max temp, although not much higher...at most .97 and that is pushing it. Emissivity it tough on round objects and tough on high temp items. This is good application for me to mess with to learn more in my own industry.
Here are some vids from the other thread:
http://youtu.be/MKmSq6tqf6g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KfRZijKgJOU
Dual coil .28G Kanthal at .4 ohms. Wrapped around 20g needle, so approx .81mm
No wick in these vids, just raw coil. I was amazed how close they were to being in sync based on temp. Here is a pic of the two coils temp across them both (p1 and p2)
Wick is cotton and juice is 70/30 vaperite VR4.
Here are some more that are "tuned" and one in the red/blue format that most people are familiar with.
Yes I am blessed with test equipment. I own a test and measurement supply company. I myself am a thermographier. We also own an infrared testing and inspection business.
The camera I am using is a 640x480 detector, which is super high for the world of IR. Camera is in the $22k range.
I am goofing around with the settings right now to get an accurate temp. If I had to guess, this temp is probably off 15F-25F on the low side. I have the emissivity at .93 on this and I have a feeling this coil is at .95 to .96. Maybe higher once it reaches max temp, although not much higher...at most .97 and that is pushing it. Emissivity it tough on round objects and tough on high temp items. This is good application for me to mess with to learn more in my own industry.
Here are some vids from the other thread:
http://youtu.be/MKmSq6tqf6g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KfRZijKgJOU
Dual coil .28G Kanthal at .4 ohms. Wrapped around 20g needle, so approx .81mm
No wick in these vids, just raw coil. I was amazed how close they were to being in sync based on temp. Here is a pic of the two coils temp across them both (p1 and p2)
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Sweet Jeebus!This is a thing now? Because thats pretty freakin awesome! I would love to contribute, but all I have is a laser ir thermal meter, no fancy picture display and I am sure its not nearly as accurate (goes up to 1470F +/-1%) but I never thought to actually measure the temp of the coil *mind-blown*
How does Mundy's Magic stack up against other types of coils? Are you collecting data of just dry burns or are you measuring with wick and juice too (is it even possible to measure, or be statistically relevant) ?
Can I just say that I love the way my vaping has evolved:
Finding the right flavor > Finding the best method of vaping > best hardware > best coil resistance > best way to make a coil (DZ) > wick material > coil material > coil position > best airflow > resistance of mod > and now THERMAL IMAGING... My inner geek loves this hobby!
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