ALL ABOUT E-LIQUIDS
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Hmmm, Ive never heard of nicotine in distilled water. Hopefully someone here has and knows where to get it. Is this because you dont trust the PG or VG based nicotines?
Moreover, if you try to vape pure water you'll end up burning your mucosa, bronchi or lungs.
You can add water to your liquid though, up to 10% I'd say
Distilled or deionised water is for those with OCD only, others can use boiled water without any remorse
You can add water to your liquid though, up to 10% I'd say
Distilled or deionised water is for those with OCD only, others can use boiled water without any remorse
I don't want to inhale polyaromatic hydrocarbons that you get from the wood-tar contained in cigarette smoke.
When you burn polyethylene glycol it decomposes and turns into something ELSE. Something carcinogenic and unhealthful. When you burn vegetable glycerine it decomposes and turns into something ELSE. Something carcinogenic and unhealthful. When you burn water it DOESN'T decompose---it vaporizes like the nicotine does and both can be safely inhaled without that annoying, unavoidable coughing that you get with
decomposed PG and VG combustion products. So I just want my e-liquids to contain nothing AT ALL but pure nicotine and pure water. That's it. How could it be true that such an ideal chemical solution is not already on the market???
When you burn polyethylene glycol it decomposes and turns into something ELSE. Something carcinogenic and unhealthful. When you burn vegetable glycerine it decomposes and turns into something ELSE. Something carcinogenic and unhealthful. When you burn water it DOESN'T decompose---it vaporizes like the nicotine does and both can be safely inhaled without that annoying, unavoidable coughing that you get with
decomposed PG and VG combustion products. So I just want my e-liquids to contain nothing AT ALL but pure nicotine and pure water. That's it. How could it be true that such an ideal chemical solution is not already on the market???
Well, you don't want/use polyethylene glycol (PEG) anyway in eliquids! It's propylene glycol that's the PG in eliquids. There's huge differences between the 2 of them and what they're used in and for.
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For starters, there's no combustion in an ecig. There is a potential risk of some byproducts being produced at some temperatures and conditions. From my understanding there's still research being done on this front. Some of the previous research was criticized for their methodology. I've heard that Evolv is working on this, but they haven't published anything at this time. If you are concerned, I'd recommend vaping at lower temperatures.
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The coils dont burn the PG or VG, they vaporize it. Im not sure where you're getting your information but the coils do not heat the PG or VG to the point of combustion. The liquids are heated to their boiling point and we inhale the vapor. The boiling point for Propylene Glycol(PG) is 188.2 degrees Celcius and the boiling point of Vegetable Glycerine is 290 degrees celcius. Both have higher boiling points than water which is 100 degrees celcius. Common vaping temperatures are around 200-250 degrees celcius. It would take much more heat for the liquid to actually burn.
Guess I learned something... I didn't realize we were "burning" anything. I thought we were only converting it to vapor. 
Or don't vape at all. Not a knock; the OP sounds like their concern is genuine enough to make it cold turkey. I tip my hat.
What the OP is talking about sounds like the method used to treat a cold: Boil water with a mentholated component and breathe the steam. Doesn't sound like much fun.
As was pointed out above, PG and VG are only a concern when heated far above the level of enjoyable vaping. Once you get to the point where Acrolein and other dangerous byproducts are created it's not fun anymore. It's why high wattage vaping doesn't appeal to me. I'll continue on at 10W and enjoy the recreation of the exhale from a cigarette, but with vapor, not smoke.
As was pointed out above, PG and VG are only a concern when heated far above the level of enjoyable vaping. Once you get to the point where Acrolein and other dangerous byproducts are created it's not fun anymore. It's why high wattage vaping doesn't appeal to me. I'll continue on at 10W and enjoy the recreation of the exhale from a cigarette, but with vapor, not smoke.
You are correct in this is scarey, IF that would be what we use. IT IS NOT. I am not sure where you got such mis-information, but maybe some additional research would certainly benefit you. Just be sure the information is from accredited sources. Like this article
Royal College Of Physicians Says E-Cigarettes Can 'Prevent Almost All The Harm From Smoking'
Maybe Nicorette lozenges would be better for you. Vaping isn't possible as we know it without PG and or VG.
I don't cough from vaping 70pg/30vg with nicotine and flavors added, but I'm vaping at 10 watts. That produces vapor similar to cigarette smoke.
What you are talking about is vaping steam/water vapor. Good luck with that. I don't think there's a good method or vehicle toward that end. At the 212 degree needed to create steam the vapor will burn your lips and throat.
Think about vaping the steam straight out of a tea kettle. Not a good idea. PG and VG begin to vaporize around 200 degrees also, but they cool quickly as they emerge from the atomizer coil and travel a couple of inches to the mouthpiece.
Propylene---*not* "polyethylene"--- glycol. Got it!
All those chemical-words are like chinese algebra to me.
So it's vegetable glycerine and propylene glycol. There's a lot of carbon in those molecules, no?
All those chemical-words are like chinese algebra to me.
So it's vegetable glycerine and propylene glycol. There's a lot of carbon in those molecules, no?
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