Allow zero nic for teens?

[vapdivrr]

Just seen the nightly news and yet another story on how vaping is so dangerous to teens and the latest lung damage. I looked up how many underage kids die annually from alcohol and it's over 4 thousand. I wish I could interrupt the broadcast with my own story, so i can tell millions how much b/s this all is..

 

[GOMuniEsq]

Just seen the nightly news and yet another story on how vaping is so dangerous to teens and the latest lung damage. I looked up how many underage kids die annually from alcohol and it's over 4 thousand. I wish I could interrupt the broadcast with my own story, so i can tell millions how much b/s this all is..

Good insight. It puts the hysteria in perspective. Another insight someone shared (forgot who, sorry) is that this only seems to be a problem in one country in the world, the USA.

 

[stols001]

m LOL I have not considered becoming a moderator because I don't think you like, REQUEST that you get knighted secretly in the dead of night and a PM is sent to you and etc.

I feel the likelihood of that to be very, very, very VERY unlikely given some of the moderator statements I have received. I think Classy (who IS Classy) would die, immediately and if Retired 1 is not yet rolling in his grave (heck IDK) he would be THEN .The last time I asked an admin type question was the last I heard of him where he gave me this long convoluted rather sort of ANGRY statement about how I did not understand how the site works (I didn't summon him either it just happened like) and that was several well a while ago.

So no, I have not considered moderation as a hobby and frankly I have modded two other sites where um, the plug is not so far up the .... when it comes to what you can say and NOT say and well.... I'd have a hard time censuring anyone.

Maybe that one dude who is always giving instructions on how to like, kill self and others with mods and TERRIBLE advice. Why can't I remember . I should eat soon. NO appetite but I'm pretty sure it's just the cold. Dripster. That's right.

I will let you know when that fateful day arrives and I am Knighted Sir stols001 but I wouldn't be holding your breath.

Anna

 

[Zaryk]

Just seen the nightly news and yet another story on how vaping is so dangerous to teens and the latest lung damage. I looked up how many underage kids die annually from alcohol and it's over 4 thousand. I wish I could interrupt the broadcast with my own story, so i can tell millions how much b/s this all is..

The news I heard tonight mentioned it was from improperly made T.H.C. juice that is the issue. So at least some are not just blaming vaping as a whole.

 

[Brewdawg1181]

The news I heard tonight mentioned it was from improperly made T.H.C. juice that is the issue. So at least some are not just blaming vaping as a whole.

No, in spite of the fact that they eventually gave a more accurate report - my bet is that whoever you heard it from, FIRST reported that it was "vaping related illness." Despite the current report, the first was totally wrong, and violated all rules of journalistic ethics.

 

[Zaryk]

No, in spite of the fact that they eventually gave a more accurate report - my bet is that whoever you heard it from, FIRST reported that it was "vaping related illness." Despite the current report, the first was totally wrong, and violated all rules of journalistic ethics.

It was the first I heard them mention it, but I could have missed any previous reports. But they were very clear that it was not standard ejuice. Of course this is a small local station and they don't report everything that is popular in the media, they tend to get some facts straight before opening their mouths about stuff. (FYI it is a small local radio station that has a couple half hour news broadcasts a day, not television. I don't watch news on television and haven't for quite a long time)

 

[Brewdawg1181]

It was the first I heard them mention it, but I could have missed any previous reports. But they were very clear that it was not standard ejuice. Of course this is a small local station and they don't report everything that is popular in the media, they tend to get some facts straight before opening their mouths about stuff. (FYI it is a small local radio station that has a couple half hour news broadcasts a day, not television. I don't watch news on television and haven't for quite a long time)

Yeah, I didn't mean to pick at you, or your particular news outlet. It's just that virtually ALL media used the vaping connection to get eyes & sell news. Irrespective of the fact it never had anything really to do with vaping. The link might have already been in this thread, but it bears repeating. The venerable Dr. Farsalinos laid it out almost perfectly. The emotional and irrational hysteria in the US about the “vaping-related” (or cannabis-related?) lung disease that goes far beyond confirmation bias

 

[Zaryk]

Yeah, I didn't mean to pick at you, or your particular news outlet. It's just that virtually ALL media used the vaping connection to get eyes & sell news. Irrespective of the fact it never had anything really to do with vaping. The link might have already been in this thread, but it bears repeating. The venerable Dr. Farsalinos laid it out almost perfectly. The emotional and irrational hysteria in the US about the “vaping-related” (or ........-related?) lung disease that goes far beyond confirmation bias

I understand that, and it is the exact reason I do not watch news on television anymore. I just thought it was worth mentioning there are still decent sources out there, but sadly they are far and few between. They also usually have a much smaller audience than the ones that get off on spreading misinformation.

 

[Ace80s]

So you've indirectly answered my questions and made the kid unaccountable and you would take it out on some poor minimum wage worker to assume their fake id is legit.

In the hospital you may never get a chance to ask who/what/when/where this all went south. Without honest conversations (to yourself as well as your kid) you're now planning for some serious medical bills and possibly a law suit.

Would you honestly be able to say that what caused the issue is the store with 100% certainty?

Relax. Im entitled to an opinion.

 

[Ace80s]

Thanks to the folks that know I have a right to my opinion and respectfully disagreed. A handful in here need to chill out. This will be my last post on these boards. Got better this to do than be .... on by complete strangers.

 

[Coyote628]

.04%. Its impossible to drunk on that. You would have to chug a keg.

That would take a while..

 

[Don29palms]

Thanks to the folks that know I have a right to my opinion and respectfully disagreed. A handful in here need to chill out. This will be my last post on these boards. Got better this to do than be .... on by complete strangers.

Did ya ever see the movie Tombstone? The part where the Earps were leaving town and Curly Bill just looked at them and said BYE!

 

[stols001]

My understand is like you'd have to drink 10 of them to like, equal one.

I drank them when I was pregnant and also at parties. I just couldn't bear to like, not have something to drink. There really is VERY little ETOH in them.

I always wanted someone to challenge me about "my beer drinking pregnantness" but no one did. I wanted to be ALL "This is NON alcoholic beer, peon."

In fact one lovely gentleman whose house I visited often back then actually NOTICED and bought some for me, saying "I notice you like this non alcoholic beer."

What a sweetheart, honestly.

Anna

 

[vaper1960]

I can envision how this all started.
SP = school principal
HM = helicopter mom
VT = vaping teen, son of HM

SP: Mrs. HM, I regret to inform you that your son VT was caught vaping on school property.
HM: What!? Surely this is a mistake. My little darling nursed until the 24th trimester and always does what his mommy says, and we've agreed that vaping is very very bad.
SP: I can assure you that VT was caught using a nicotine vaporizer in violation of school policy.
HM: Well I never! We'll see about this. Where is my precious little crotch goblin?
SP: He's waiting in the other room. Let's bring him in.
HM: Vaping H. Teen! Your principal is saying that somebody thinks you were smoking one of those nasty little e-cigarettes! What really happened??
VT: Um. Well it's, just that, um, I kinda did.
HM: Wha-wha-what??? But honey we talked about this! Surely you don't want to become an addict and ruin your future!!
SP: You see, Mrs. HM? Vaping is becoming an epidemic around here and it seems even the best students can be caught up in a wave of peer pressure.
HM: Did your friends make you do this? Give me the name of the person who hooked you. Was it Skyler's son Flynn? I know he's a bad influence.
VT: Nobody gave it to me. I found it lying around... in a desk.
HM: Mr. SP! How can your school tolerate the presence of illegal devices? Smoochie, tell me you didn't put it in your mouth. You could be infected right now, with herpes or Epstein-Barr. Why did you do it?
VT: Well, it smelled kinda nice... like mango.
HM: Tell me you didn't inhale.
VT: What? Oh! Nooooo of course I... didn't inhale it. I just tasted it. Then Mrs. Crabapple walked in.
SP: Actually, there's a good deal more to the sto—
HM: Well that goodness that's cleared up. My raison d'être is obviously the victim here, and falsely accused. YOUR school is negligent for allowing these devices in the classroom, so I'll expect you to foot the bill for his medical examination and grief counseling. And he never would have been tricked if it hadn't smelled like candy. I can't see why the degenerates who make those things would add flavors anyway unless they intended to prey on innocent children from the beginning. Wait until the PTA hears about this, and the media!

later:

Flynn: Dude! They called you to the principal's office. Did you get in trouble??
VT: lol I used the Clinton defense and they fell for it. You're safe. Adults are so ......ed lmfao. Gimme a hit of that Unicorn Blood I need to relax.

That was too perfect! Made my day (woops, I mean morning... jeeze I really need to go to bed)

 

[Tabac man]

He needs a good clip round the ear for vaping mango.