Already looking to get more KR808 batteries...which one?

[Cyrus Vap]

I see. I thought they recommend 450 mAh or higher to protect from frying the battery, I misunderstood!

so (perhaps he'll chime in) what did Charlz mean when he said not to use 3.7V batts with anything lower than 1.8 ohm? What's the danger? Too much wattage frying the batt?

 

[spaceballsrules]

I see. I thought they recommend 450 mAh or higher to protect from frying the battery, I misunderstood!

so (perhaps he'll chime in) what did Charlz mean when he said not to use 3.7V batts with anything lower than 1.8 ohm? What's the danger? Too much wattage frying the batt?

Oh, you CAN fry a battery with a carto with low enough resistance. I would not go lower than 2.0 ohm on a 480 or lower batt. I'll edit my post....done.

 

[SirVette]

And is it 3.7? If so, I think I'm sold.

Yes, 3.7. I am using attys.

 

[Charlz]

I see. I thought they recommend 450 mAh or higher to protect from frying the battery, I misunderstood!

so (perhaps he'll chime in) what did Charlz mean when he said not to use 3.7V batts with anything lower than 1.8 ohm? What's the danger? Too much wattage frying the batt?

not KILL as in shot in the head.....more like kill as in make them smoke 2 packs a day (hey, if the analogy works). That's why i'm only using lr on old batteries I don't care about. because I already gotten my use out of them and if they stop working tomorrow instead of next month, I won't lose sleep over it. It's only by forcing them to deplete their charge too quickly that will cause disaster and that's why most of them come with shutoffs to keep the battery from getting too hot.

You can fry them but it would typically be due to a faulty switch. And really, I'm not trying to run around like chicken little here. It's an extreme scenario.


Edit: Darnit Spaceballs, we either have a great minds think alike thing going with that analogy or you are getting even sneakier with that edit button

 

[Morandir835]

Depending on the manufacturer you can use 2.0 ohm cartos on a gen 1 batt without harming it. Anything lower is the danger.

 

[Charlz]

I'm leaving before spaceballs changes his post again I swear I'm not crazy

 

[SirVette]

If someone is very fast, it's possible to edit the post so fast the forum doesn't notice.

 

[spaceballsrules]

Yes, 3.7. I am using attys.

Sorry, sir. It isn't regulated. I asked SSV2 this very question a few days ago. See post #17...http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/cigeasy/214412-my-own-review-elite-808-kit.html#post4910101

Edit: Darnit Spaceballs, we either have a great minds think alike thing going with that analogy or you are getting even sneakier with that edit button

I'm leaving before spaceballs changes his post again I swear I'm not crazy

I am going to go with great minds on this one. Hehe!

FYI That was in the original post before edit. The edit was just the addition of the bit about the firecracker.

 

[SirVette]

No it's not regulated.

 

[Charlz]

That's a minus on the elite. A big one......

Ok, Spaceballs. Great minds do think alike....as an analogy it was sort of obvious


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[spaceballsrules]

That's a minus on the elite. A big one......

Ok, Spaceballs. Great minds do think alike....as an analogy it was sort of obvious


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Yeah. I was under the assumption that it was regulated, and therefore bought it. Had I only known....

I can say this for the Elite. It does not hit like an unregulated batt. The first hit is never too hot or strong, and the last hit is never too mellow. It stays in the voltage sweet spot pretty much the whole charge cycle. It's a totally different experience than the V2 batts. Totally!

If I was in the market for yet another device, I would probably go with the new model KGO with the on/off feature. HoosierCigSupply has them, and once the stock runs out on the old model, everyone else will have them as well.

 

[Charlz]

Yeah. I was under the assumption that it was regulated, and therefore bought it. Had I only known....

I can say this for the Elite. It does not hit like an unregulated batt. The first hit is never too hot or strong, and the last hit is never too mellow. It stays in the voltage sweet spot pretty much the whole charge cycle. It's a totally different experience than the V2 batts. Totally!

If I was in the market for yet another device, I would probably go with the new model KGO with the on/off feature. HoosierCigSupply has them, and once the stock runs out on the old model, everyone else will have them as well.

As long as it delivers, that's all that really matters. maybe it's only a minor minus. The good news is, as the mood strikes you, you can do it all over again. 3 months......6months....2 years.....


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[spaceballsrules]

As long as it delivers, that's all that really matters. maybe it's only a minor minus. The good news is, as the mood strikes you, you can do it all over again. 3 months......6months....2 years.....


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...or next week.

 

[McDougal]

are you sure V2 is low resistance? i was under the impression they were standard resistance.

Their website states that they are low resistance, and they do have a rather warm vapor to them. It doesn't state how low the ohms are, unfortunately.

After scouring the forums on V2's site, someone mentioned they are 2.6 - 2.8 ohm. I'm not sure how correct this is, however.

What should be the lowest ohms to use on the Elite 808?

 

[McDougal]

Actually, the V2Cigs cartos are rated between 2.6-3.0 ohm. That comes straight from V2.....http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...eres-carto-specs-isnt-listed.html#post4867932

The Elite is unregulated and runs 4.2V on a full charge and dwindles down from there. I think it dies at 3.3-3.4V, but don't quote me on that.

YES, you can absolutely use V2 cartos on the Elite. They work incredibly well together, in fact. The Elite is similar to a long V2 battery, just shortened and fattened. It's good for people trying to avoid looking like Audrey Hepburn on the cover of Breakfast at Tiffany's.

^^^Check post #47 in this thread for pics of the V2 compared to the Elite, with both types of cartos on the Elite.^^^

Thanks for this info! It answers everything I needed to know. V2's blank carto listing does say "low resistance," but I suppose they only are relatively speaking. I do love their cartos, so it's great to know they'll work with the Elite 808. And the Mah on the Elite is very impressive. This is going to be my next setup, which is clearly an upgrade from V2's 808.

 

[Morandir835]

McDougal (guessing sir) lr on a kr808 is usually 2.0 ohms due to the higher voltage. It's all relative to the voltage of the connection. A joye ego for example comes in at 3.2v on load, so 1.7ohms is still going to pull less wattage then a freshly charged kr808 batt outputting 4.19v with a 2.0 ohm carto.

 

[Kemosabe]

minus? really? is it because its unregulated?

That's a minus on the elite. A big one......

Ok, Spaceballs. Great minds do think alike....as an analogy it was sort of obvious


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[robblundberg]

yes unregulated butts are no fun

 

[Charlz]

minus? really? is it because its unregulated?

the upside to the uregulated is that first half an hour or so when they are fresh off the charger. As a noob, I had the tendency to flood my attys thinking they needed more juice when in reality they were just losing power.
It's especially a plus to have a regulated battery when you are using 2.0 ohms. That sweet spot can fly by really quick. On a standard 2.8-3ohm the difference is very gradual.

 

[Morandir835]

Actually depends on who the manufacturer of the unregulated batts are Robblundberg sir...