Analog Cravings

[JeremyJames]

for me it took a month of absolutely 0 analogs for normal cig cravings to go completly away, perhaps they could come back but I am on the ~50 day mark and its been a long while since I had a craving for a real analog, I even tried to smoke one on two occasions and it just felt weird, it wasnt satisfying at all and actually felt very foriegn in every way (I smoked for 15 years before ecigs varying from 1 to 3 packs a day since the age of twelve so its really odd just how foriegn they felt )..I am still addicted to nicotine however but the craving now is for vape and not smoke.

 

[LuckySevens4U]

Good to hear J. Thanks.

 

[Vicks Vap-oh-Yeah]

Stay strong! I had an equipment failure, didn't have a spare atomizer, and had to smoke analogs for 2 days.....they were the most discusting 2 days I've ever had to go through. I haven't had a craving for tobacco since.

 

[JustJulie]

I quit back in January, and I still have the odd craving every now and then, but it's been getting much less so in the last couple of weeks. I did break down twice in February, but couldn't manage to take more than a couple of puffs before putting it out because it tasted so foul.

Now when I get that craving, I reach for an e-cig that will give me a gut punch. Typically, that's my Dura-C with a high nic solution. It's not really the nicotine that I'm craving, but that harshness I can feel all the way into my lungs.

 

[Klausse]

Hey Lucky7's. My wife has been analog free and vaping for 6 weeks. I've cheated a few times in 2 months but without the familiar satisfaction and there's a little guilt after. What helps me is to find someone smoking and walk by them. After 23 years of smoking, I never knew smoke smelled bad! A good cloud of reek is usually enough to get me by another day or 2 before the crave.
Good Luck!!

 

[Closet Toker]

A little over two weeks and the same for me also. Nothing compares to that , Thick and sweet tobacco smoke. Several times I've come close to buying a pack, but have maintained. I usually vape like crazy and ride out my cravings for thick juicy tobacco smoke.

ahhhh, tobacco. Doh!

 

[LuckySevens4U]

You guys are great. I know I HAVE been around smokers, my hair dresser and my mother in law. I almost GAGGED smelling it. Didn't want one at all being around it. I just vaped away with them. Also I LOVE not having my clothes or anything smell like ciggys love that! I was a very "clean" smoker too so I never really thought I smelled like smoke. Boy can I smell it on things now!

 

[Pister]

I bought my 1st super-cig about a month ago....I couldn't get the batteries to stay charged, so I kept doing analog...but once I got my DSE901 I would rather vape than anything, I love all the flavors, I keep trying the different brands of juice and haven't found one yet that I don't like...plus I can tell a difference in the way I breathe and I don't have that ashtray odor in my hair...so my cravings are very slim.....plus I don't have to go outside to vape....I guess I like the benefits better than a real cig.....
I also bought the 901 models for my 24 year old son and my sister-in-law, so now I've got everyone around my house vaping....
My sister-in-law didn't have her batteries charged the other day, so she stopped and bought a pack of smokes, and the first one she tried she called me at work to tell me " she felt like she was smoking an ashtray"...too funny, but she was right, I agree with her.

 

[Harry Crazington]

Stay strong! I had an equipment failure, didn't have a spare atomizer, and had to smoke analogs for 2 days.....they were the most discusting 2 days I've ever had to go through. I haven't had a craving for tobacco since.

Ahhh but tobacco saved you from unforeseen and unwanted nicotine withdrawal didn't it? The whole idea is how to curb the craving in the safest way. E-Cigs seem to be the best way overall but...what to do if they won't work, or worse...banned or made illegal? Burning tobacco seems to be the most dangerous way. So vaporizing seems to be one of the safest ways, whether it's juice or the tobacco leaf. Either can be vaporized to get your nic-hit. If e-Juice is banned you have several choices, gum, patches, or extraction of nicotine from tobacco leaf to make your own juice, messy & dangerous...or vaporizing tobacco leaf. There are many seemingly legal vaporizers already available that will work with either juice or leaf, most don't require batteries or atomizers that wear out or aren't available.
So for emergency backups every survival kit should contain one or more of these devices, listed in order of reliability & price..

1: I-Inhale (now called iOlite) $250. www.gotvape.com/store/portable.vaporizers.phphttp://www.gotvape.com
2: Vapir Oxygen Portable Vaporizer $130. www.gotvape.com/store/portable.vaporizers.php
3: VaporGenie $65.00 www.vaporgenie.com
4: VapBong Portable Vaporizer $50.00 www.vapbong.com
5: Vapolution Portable Vaporizer $25.00 www.vapolution.com
6: Dominizer $20.00 www.dominizer.com
7: HugeGrins $20.00 www.hugegrins.com
8: Ubie $25.00 www.vaporizergiant.com/ubie.html

 

[Phalse]

I think the reason most of us want batteries, even though its a pain, is so we dont feel like we are smoking a crack pipe with a lighter.

Some of those can be used with liquid (the glass tube ones, and some others) but some have holes in the "bowl" where you place the liquid and it would drip into the mouth tube.

Do you have any vaporizer links for systems with a heating element instead of using a lighter?
(most of those links were for ones without batteries or power) except the $250 US one, seems powered.
I know they make very expensive lines with power/heating elements like that first link but it seems a bit too expensive for me. Maybe a $120 range (small sized personal) vaporizer that uses a heating element.

 

[Harry Crazington]

I think the reason most of us want batteries, even though its a pain, is so we dont feel like we are smoking a crack pipe with a lighter.

Some of those can be used with liquid (the glass tube ones, and some others) but some have holes in the "bowl" where you place the liquid and it would drip into the mouth tube.

Do you have any vaporizer links for systems with a heating element instead of using a lighter?
(most of those links were for ones without batteries or power) except the $250 US one, seems powered.
I know they make very expensive lines with power/heating elements like that first link but it seems a bit too expensive for me. Maybe a $120 range (small sized personal) vaporizer that uses a heating element.

Yes e-cigs & batteries are best. I'm talking about a last resort, when everything else fails you can still vape legal herbs, including tobacco leaf. All devices listed are made for leaf but can be simply modified to use juice, if it's available. If not, bust open a cigarette, put in some leaf & vape it instead of burning it. Vaping it is much safer, little smell, no carcinigens, even a stronger nic-hit than burning so one cig's worth of tobacco would be equivalent to burning 3 or 4 cigs. In my opinion, since I own them all...the VapBong is the best last resort emergency back up device.

 

[Dal1970]

The crazy thing, is that this is legal and recommended - nicorette inhalator - same as e-cig but without the battery.
Been around for years and tastes awful.

Dal

 

[Catanonia]

Hey Lucky7's. My wife has been analog free and vaping for 6 weeks. I've cheated a few times in 2 months but without the familiar satisfaction and there's a little guilt after. What helps me is to find someone smoking and walk by them. After 23 years of smoking, I never knew smoke smelled bad! A good cloud of reek is usually enough to get me by another day or 2 before the crave.
Good Luck!!

Definately.

I am about 10 days in an boy I hate the smell of them digusting ciggie breathers

Well that is my way of doing it.

When I started (about 12 days ago, went 2 days on an off, been off now about 10 days) I had a couple of reals. They were digusting 10 days ago. I hate to think now.



I still have cravings....... My 901. I think about it constantly

 

[Bootyology]

to OP,

the reason for this can be explained in a Pavlovian sense.
Every time you get your nicotine fix from an analog you are associating many different sensations with the pleasure of your fix. Here are the most important ones that I've noticed in myself
- smoke in lungs
- "poison body high"
- seeing smoke exit your mouth
- lung function: large inhale, large exhale
- sucking on cigarette
- pain in lungs

Whatever your list is, you come to love these sensations because every single time you get your fix you get these sensations. It's love through association. This works on a very low and base level of brain function. It's just how we work. It's also because nicotine fixes are subtle and the other sensations are very powerful. They leave powerful imprints.

What you are doing in your first weeks of vaping is relearning. You are slowly reshaping your 'nicotine conscience'. Each passing fix reaffirms the associations with the sensations that e-cigs and analogs share. Every puff also help you forget the ones that e-cigs and analogs don't share. It's hard and requires willpower to ignore the pangs. But it's a hell of a lot easier than quitting smoking all together; the only thing I miss about analogs is the poison body high. After 15 days, for me, the pangs for analogs has decreased drastically.

There will also be triggers and other more complicated associations. For example, if hangover day analogs were extra special to you (help numb the pain?), you may have strong pangs on hangover days.

"Keep pushing on, things will only get better, it won't take long"

 

[Calaban]

Lucky you are correct that it is not just nicotine. There are tons of other chemicals that reinforce the addiction.

But I also think a HUGE part of it is your state of mind. You have to want it more than anything.

I quit for 2 years straight from 2000 to 2002, and honestly after the first 4 months my cravings disappeared. My waking cravings anyway; I would frequently have dreams where I was smoking....and feeling horribly guilty!

Anyway, I only had craving when I was drinking which wasn't very often. In my day to day life I was fine. But it was only because I really really wanted to succeed.

Don't get me wrong...I am sure you want to succeed. I am sure you really really want to quit. But maybe....just suggesting....you need to trick your mind into wanting it more somehow. I am not sure what would work for you, but for me it was a matter of learning as much as I could about how evil the tobacco companies are, and looking at it as a battle between myself and them.

Now, I went back to smoking. Yup.

It was during a night of heavy drinking, and I was 2.5 years without a cigarette. I thought I was totally over it, and thanks to the alcohol messing with my good judgment (it's always the first thing to go when drinking) I decided to have just one cigarette. Oops.

I was back to a pack a day within a week....maybe less than a week I don't recall.

I am positive that had I not been drinking, and had I not employed a bunch of rationalizations that addicts use, I would be going on 10 years as a ex-smoker.

Ok, sorry I'm rambling a bit.

Just NEVER smoke even just one cigarette, and be extra careful if you get sloppy drunk lol.

Good luck.

 

[LuckySevens4U]

Trust me, I want to quit, that's why I quit on first full day vaping. Never have touched another analog in 25 days now.

 

[Skad]

Oddly after the first couple of days of vaping, I didn't have any cravings for analogs at all. I've smoked two packs a day for close to 20 years, and this is the first time I haven't had a cig in this long and not become a psychotic mess.

I may have to look into some of those cheap manual options for emergencies. I live on the gulf coast, and when a hurricane hits, we can be without power for long periods of time.

 

[ozrick]

Every once and a while i think HMMM it would be nice to have a smoke. I think the process of picking up the pack, pulling out the cig, lighting it, ashing- all of that becomes second nature. I find myself reaching for a pack that doesn't exist.

Funniest thing is, we had a pact when we were smoking not to smoke upstairs. To this day I still sit at the counter in the kitchen and use my laptop (which I did so I could smoke since I couldn't in my upstairs office) even now that I vape. It's odd! The brain is a curious thing

 

[jmcclimo2003]

It's also possible that as time goes on and the technology improves, the e-cig experience will get closer and closer to analog smoking. People here seem to thing the Vapor King has taken another step in that direction.

Who knows what'll be available in 2010, 2012, 2015.

 

[BARENETTED]

Calaban - I did exactly the same thing you did - after 4 years of not smoking! I also did it while having a few cocktails at our company Christmas party. I thought I could do this just for tonight! NOT! We are just like druggies and alcoholics. Cant have just one.
I have not had any cravings since vaping!