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Lessifer

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There is no mech explosion epidemic.

Of the approximately 3 million vapers in the US, "In October 2014, FEMA and the U.S. Fire Administration released a study on e-cigarettes. They found there were 25 different incidents of explosions or fires that involved e-cigarettes reported in the media in the U.S. between 2009 and August 2014"

That's a damned good track record, not all of those were mechs, and nearly all of them are due to user error.

How many hoverboard fires have there been in the 22 days of this year?

Yes, the reporting of these incidents is disconcerting, because the facts are being overshadowed by the fear mongering, and there is almost never a discussion of the actual issue or how to avoid it.
 

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We need to get manufacturers of tanks to put warning cards in their boxes that say "DO NOT USE ON A MECHANICAL MOD"
What scares me personally is I haven't advanced beyond my ego's,evods and,vision spinners
using iclear16's. I still use kr808d1 cigalikes. I wouldn't know the difference between a mech
mod and a hybrid. Not that I would want too but,there must be thousands of people like
me that do not have a clue.
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Mike
 

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There is no mech explosion epidemic.

Of the approximately 3 million vapers in the US, "In October 2014, FEMA and the U.S. Fire Administration released a study on e-cigarettes. They found there were 25 different incidents of explosions or fires that involved e-cigarettes reported in the media in the U.S. between 2009 and August 2014"

That's a damned good track record, not all of those were mechs, and nearly all of them are due to user error.

How many hoverboard fires have there been in the 22 days of this year?

Yes, the reporting of these incidents is disconcerting, because the facts are being overshadowed by the fear mongering, and there is almost never a discussion of the actual issue or how to avoid it.
I do agree with you. But the designers are taking advantage of the numbers like Ford did with the Pinto's plastic gas tank. There is one glaring design flaw I see in many personal vaporizers. The vent holes are placed in the dead area of a venting situation. Batteries vent at the top of the cell and all designers are placing the vent holes at the bottom. These batteries swell before venting and effectively seal the battery tube.
 

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    We need to get manufacturers of tanks to put warning cards in their boxes that say "DO NOT USE ON A MECHANICAL MOD"

    I think a Distinction needs to be made between a Mechanical Mod that has a 510 Positive Pin and those that use a Direct Atomizer to Battery (Hybrid "style" Cap) connection.

    Something like how this Review starts out...


    The Tugboat Version One is a 22mm diameter mechanical mod from Flawless Vapes with a hybrid style connection. Hybrid style mechanical mods, where the atomizer makes direct contact with the battery, should only be used with atomizers a protruding 510 center pin. This prevents the sides of the 510 which form the negative contact of the connection from touching the battery causing a hard short which can result in your battery failing.

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    Review: Tugboat Mod v1
     

    edyle

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    Is there Really a performance difference by using this type of Direct Connection vs. a connection that uses a Pin?

    Well in my case the performance difference with true hybrid is about maintenance.
    It is a rock solid connection.

    As for the fakebrid connection, I believe the performance difference can be decribed as

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    potentially explosive performance.


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    ok, bad joke...
     
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    zoiDman

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    Help me understand this accident.
    Batteries go nuclear when abused: symptoms as I understand them heat, venting, swelling, explode. So now batteries have a mode where with no warning what so ever they just go boom. Really????

    Not sure I can Help you Understand what happened in this Accident.

    Because I don't know for sure what the guy was Using. So it would all be Speculation.
     

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    Help me understand this accident.
    Batteries go nuclear when abused: symptoms as I understand them heat, venting, swelling, explode. So now batteries have a mode where with no warning what so ever they just go boom. Really????
    A good percentage of the more violent explosions happen when there is a tank on a mechanical mod although more with tanks on hybrid mech's but its both...

    Generally most RDA's center pins are physically screwed in to the positive post and don't move.
    Many tanks have a center pin that is held in place by a rubber insulator.

    Something as simple as over tightening the tank can cause cause the center pin to get pushed in and become equal with the negative 510 connector causing it to short and on a mechanical mod without circuit protection it can vent.
     

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    Something as simple as over tightening the tank can cause cause the center pin to get pushed in and become equal with the negative 510 connector causing it to short and on a mechanical mod without circuit protection it can vent.

    Also, if the Atomizer's center pin is held in by a Grommet and you screw the Atomizer on without a Coil Head or RBA Section attached, this will push the Atomizer's 510 Pin up into the Atomizer.
     

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    A good percentage of the more violent explosions happen when there is a tank on a mechanical mod although more with tanks on hybrid mech's but its both...

    Generally most RDA's center pins are physically screwed in to the positive post and don't move.
    Many tanks have a center pin that is held in place by a rubber insulator.

    Something as simple as over tightening the tank can cause cause the center pin to get pushed in and become equal with the negative 510 connector causing it to short and on a mechanical mod without circuit protection it can vent.

    While I agree that shorting the positive terminal of a battery to ground will not have a happy ending regardless of the mod or tank. My point is that 'without any warning sign' this guy's mod exploded, just Boom from out of the blue. Fine one minute and exploding the next might be a cause for concern. But I'm sure there is a bag full of stupid hiding somewhere in this incident.
     

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    The guy said so, “I was about to take a puff off of it, like I normally did hundreds of times before and just had it in my mouth and pressed the button and it exploded,” Chris said.

    Gotcha... Well then that has to be What Happened.

    Because No One would stretch the Truth. Especially when someone got Hurt. And there will Most Likely be an Insurance Claim and Almost Assuredly a Lawsuit Involved.
     
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