Not too familiar with mechs. Is this a hybrid ?
Man loses teeth, jaw wired together after e-cig explodes | WINK NEWS
Man loses teeth, jaw wired together after e-cig explodes | WINK NEWS
And another one
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"At this point, there are no regulations on e-cigarettes, but if you have an incident with one you can report it to the FDA by calling 1-800-FDA-1088 or by filling out an online form."
Maybe, in the interests of meaningful statistics, the FDA would appreciate incident reports for each of our incident-free days.
Maybe, in the interests of meaningful statistics, the FDA would appreciate incident reports for each of our incident-free days.
Too difficult to tell from that pic, and the piece doesn't mention any specifics about what he was using. It does look like one of the sub tanks though. and it possibly could be a mech. If that is the complete length of it though, it looks like it was an 18350 mech, and I would personally never use an 18350 battery with a sub ohm setup.
did you watch the video, the battery they showed seemed to be a 18650, although the battery itself didn't seem damaged !?
I get the wink-wink, nudge-nudge factor but the government's interest in facts and accurate statistics is non-existent. NHTSA, FDA, CPSC, and all rest of the members of the alphabet soup brigade that regulates American business and citizenry have no mechanism in place to share a positive comment or experience. They only want to hear and publicize the bad things encountered by a minute population.
It's unconscionable.
I didn't watch the video, was judging from the still of the video that appears when I click the link. There is a vented battery in the image and the bottom is missing from the mech, and that's the angle they show. The battery looks like it might have been purple, so possibly an efest, but it's very hard to tell. If they show in intact battery later it's most likely just a representation. I'll watch the vid when I get a chance.
This happened last Sunday so it may not be 'another one'. Although the last post here never mentioned any details - the ABC video.
Supposedly (and this can change as stories develop) he was using a Sense Herakles sub-ohm tank. The warning of one vendor on that product:
Warning: Never use a short or flat 510 connection on any hybrid or hybrid style device. If unsure whether this pertains to your particular set-up, DO NOT assemble and use. Always use proper precautions and handling.
The copper tube is consistent with many of the hybrids we have seen but that isn't clear in what has been reported. Of course all hybrids aren't copper and all copper mods aren't hybrids. I haven't checked reddit, where more info is usually available. I'm just guessing from the explosion that there's a high probability that it is a hybrid and it was misused/user error/ignorance.
The battery shown later in the video (the good one, assuming the one that blew is the same) looks like a 18650 3000mAh LG HG2 20 amp limit. I have two but I don't sub-ohm. The higher amp limit batts have lower mAh ratings, so he may have been stretching the amp limit depending on how low ohm and watts he was vaping. And trying to get more mAh, than the more regular Samsung 25R, LG HE2/4's. So it could have been that rather than the hybrid.
Looks like it went out the end (not the mouth end) of the batt into the window then to lap and then the floor. He likely received the mouth injury from the subtank being driven into his mouth.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
But aren't All 18650 Batteries designed to Vent from the Positive End of the Battery? The End we point at our Mouth. And don't Most Mech Mods have Venting Holes on the Other End of the Mod at the Switch.
But aren't All 18650 Batteries designed to Vent from the Positive End of the Battery? The End we point at our Mouth. And don't Most Mech Mods have Venting Holes on the Other End of the Mod at the Switch.
"At this point, there are no regulations on e-cigarettes, but if you have an incident with one you can report it to the FDA by calling 1-800-FDA-1088 or by filling out an online form."
Maybe, in the interests of meaningful statistics, the FDA would appreciate incident reports for each of our incident-free days.
I understand what you're saying, but it might not be a good idea to fill out an online form about "incident-free" days. Given how the anti-ecig brigade at FDA behaves, I can imagine them counting every form as an "e-cig incident report" simply because it came through on their "incident reporting" site. Even if the report was about "no incident today." I wouldn't want to add to their count.
Kind of like how the anti's trumpet "calls to poison control centers about e-liquids have quadrupled...blah, blah, blah" when the vast majority of the calls very likely have been about perfectly harmless contacts that didn't result in any need whatsoever for medical attention.
As in all such applications of force, the weakest part will determine direction - here it looks like the end cap was the weakest, even though the positive/nipple end of the batt vents - basically pushing the batt downward if that's the weakest point in the mod.
The Reason I mentioned how a Battery is Designed to Vent is because if the Battery Swells, the 510 End of a Mech Mod is going to contain Vented Battery Gases.
So it would seem like that would be a Good Place to have some Vent Holes. But I have seen Very Few Mech Mods that have Vent Holes at the Atomizer End of a Mech Mod.
Well not really unless you want hot vented gas sprayed directly into your face. The best would be to have venting tunnels the full length of the inside of tube exiting through bottom holes, that way even if the battery did swell it would not cut off the gases causing the violent explosions we see now.
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Well, that would have to be on the sides at the top since the tank is going to cover anything on the very top. And this was a Mech mod, if not a hybrid. Various scenarios can happen as related here on the thread at reddit for those not knowledgeable on hybrids and Mechs....
And another one blows his face off with a subohm tank on a mechmod • /r/electronic_cigarette
I saw a Mech once that had 4 Holes on 90 degs in the Tube just below the Top Cap Threading. As well as the "Standard" Venting thru the Switch. This type of Venting made sense. Because the Venting wasn't Pointed at ones Face.
I could see Internal Venting Tunnels or Channels as working Very Well Also. It might Easily be implemented by incorporating a Battery Sleeve to fit into an Over-Sized Tube Body.
Just for clarification the issue is not "Hybrid Mechs" it is non hybrid direct to battery connection top caps and improper atomizers including those with spring loaded center pins. True hybrids are actually designed to prevent issues at the battery to atomizer contact point.
It really doesn't look like a hybrid mod though with that top cap.
Yeah, it's pretty hard to tell from the side, but that looks like a standard top cap to me.
Which means there are still any number of other things that could have gone wrong, and we will probably never know what actually happened.
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