Another article on the Juul

[nicnik]

I no longer think squeezing has been causing any of the leaking. I got all the leaking stopped in all the pods, and squeezed the hell out of some, repeatedly. No leaking. However, one of the other pods leaked on first draws straight out of the package. So, the leaking I experienced, none of which went into the device, just gurgled and went in my mouth, was probably caused by taking one apart and reassebling, and the others, either factory overfilled, or something else about the manufactured product before it was in my hands. I'll see what happens next time I open one up, being more careful, especially with the chimney.

I put some juul juice in an eroll. Similar performance to the Juul. The Juul seems to have more efficient air flow. Still very impressed with the device, itself.

I'm also now experiencing some less feeling of throat hit when hitting one of my usual ego minis with a mini protank with my preferred ~9-11mg/ml, I guess caused by becoming acclimated to Juul juice's high nic.

 

[Rossum]

just gurgled and went in my mouth

I also got a bit of gurgle/spit on my lips and tongue. I normally vape 15mg and it's no big deal if that happens, but the Juul juice, well, uh, let's just say it wasn't pleasant.

 

[zoiDman]

I also got a bit of gurgle/spit on my lips and tongue. I normally vape 15mg and it's no big deal if that happens, but the Juul juice, well, uh, let's just say it wasn't pleasant.

Man I can Imagine.

I once got a Big Mouthful of 36mg e-Liquid from a Leaking Cart/Atty. I think I had the Hiccups for about 3 Hours straight.

 

[house mouse]

I was careful about not letting any juice leak into the device, and none did. The 60mg/ml jice was WAY, WAY to strong for me at that PG/VG ratio. Cut it down to about what I use with an eroll, about 12-14mg/ml (haven't been mixing very precisely, lately.

Are the pods filled to the brim? I'm thinking the 59mg is going to be way too strong/harsh for me also. If I can ease that cap off and add some vg to dilute it a bit it could end up being a nice little stealth vape unit. I should have gotten mine yesterday but it seems that it has taken off for a joyride with the USPS.

 

[Rossum]

They're pretty dang full, yes. I just pulled the tabaac flavored pod I started with yesterday ('cause I really don't care for the flavor) and installed a fresh fuut pod; there's only the tiniest of air bubbles in new pod. The fruut is much more palatable (to me, at least).

The vapor isn't as harsh as the strength would have you expect, but then there isn't much of it either. I puff at the Juul for a bit, then revert to one of my bottom-feeders and feel like I'm suddenly a cloud chaser. Mind you, my feeders are set up with small-chambered atties (Cyclones, Chalices, Nuppins) with a relatively tight draw suitable only for MTL vaping, typically running wattages in the high teens, so barely above tootle-puffer specs.

Having had the thing for a day now, the form-factor is kinda cool; it's tiny and very light. If I were going to carry it, I'd want a pocket clip for it, because unlike my feeders (one of which is almost always in my shirt pocket) you could lose it without being aware it's gone.

As for the juuce, I think what I'm going to do this afternoon is bust open two or three fruut pods (I got a spare pack of those) and dilute the contents down to something resembling my normal 15mg strength, then fill a feeder with it, and vape it like normally do to see whether the nic hit is really any different than normal juice.

 

[navigator2011]

Are the pods filled to the brim? I'm thinking the 59mg is going to be way too strong/harsh for me also. If I can ease that cap off and add some vg to dilute it a bit it could end up being a nice little stealth vape unit. I should have gotten mine yesterday but it seems that it has taken off for a joyride with the USPS.

This juice is different than what you'd normally expect from 59mg/ml juice. I recommend that you give the regular juice a try in the Juul before making changes--that way, you'll at least have basis by which to compare. Just my thoughts, though, YMMV.

 

[nicnik]

Are the pods filled to the brim? I'm thinking the 59mg is going to be way too strong/harsh for me also. If I can ease that cap off and add some vg to dilute it a bit it could end up being a nice little stealth vape unit. I should have gotten mine yesterday but it seems that it has taken off for a joyride with the USPS.

Completely full. I've been taking apart a couple of pods, refilling one with different strengths, etc. No matter what I've done so far, after opening a pod and putting it back together I get gurgling and leaking, but after getting the leaked liquid out, it's great with my usual nic strength. Yes, great little stealth unit, if you can deal with the leaking, or perhaps figure out a solution, which I'm trying to do.

 

[nicnik]

As for the juuce, I think what I'm going to do this afternoon is bust open two or three fruut pods (I got a spare pack of those) and dilute the contents down to something resembling my normal 15mg strength, then fill a feeder with it, and vape it like normally do to see whether the nic hit is really any different than normal juice.

I haven't tried diluting the Juul juice yet, but I'm going to soon. So far, I'm not thinking the effect of the salts vs freebase is different enough for me to notice, with the exception that the salts are a lot less harsh. The 59mg/ml strength is too much for me, though. If I haven't taken a drag in a while, I can almost choke on the first drag. It usually quickly gets less harsh after a drag or two, but can suddenly feel too strong again in the middle of a vape session.
Be careful about squeezing the tank. I'm back to thinking that's causing some of the leaking, sometimes. It's tough not sqeezing it when taking a pod apart and reassembling, and even on the edge sides it's pretty flexible. When putting the mouthpiece back on, I've been pushing the tank from the bottom two corners, to avoid squeezing.

 

[DC2]

It seems to me that the more "activist oriented" vapors are more intrigued by the possibilities here.
A similar thread in General Vaping Discussion went nowhere.

I might be tempted to wonder why that is.

 

[DC2]

Also, I want to say, you guys all rock!


I was sorely tempted a few times to get one for myself and join you.
But my days of experimenting were over after I ditched the blue foam.

 

[Rossum]

It seems to me that the more "activist oriented" vapors are more intrigued by the possibilities here.
A similar thread in General Vaping Discussion went nowhere.

I might be tempted to wonder why that is.

What are you getting at here, Dee Cee?

 

[r77r7r]

So, whats the battery life?

And do I have to whip my hair all the time like the Models in their ads? 'Cause I can do that too. Yeah, huh.

 

[navigator2011]

I haven't tried diluting the Juul juice yet, but I'm going to soon. So far, I'm not thinking the effect of the salts vs freebase is different enough for me to notice, with the exception that the salts are a lot less harsh. The 59mg/ml strength is too much for me, though. If I haven't taken a drag in a while, I can almost choke on the first drag. It usually quickly gets less harsh after a drag or two, but can suddenly feel too strong again in the middle of a vape session.
Be careful about squeezing the tank. I'm back to thinking that's causing some of the leaking, sometimes. It's tough not sqeezing it when taking a pod apart and reassembling, and even on the edge sides it's pretty flexible. When putting the mouthpiece back on, I've been pushing the tank from the bottom two corners, to avoid squeezing.

Yep, I've also noticed that squeezing the flat, middle portion of the pods creates a positive pressure that pushes too much juice into the wick. The pods really want to be pushed onto the battery and then left there until finished. I have had better results by pinching the pods long-ways, if that makes sense.

Also, once that little rubber top-cap is pulled out of the pod, there is nothing to stop the juice from flowing into the wick, again leading to flooding. I think it was my experimenting around with my own juices in the pods that led to juicing my battery.

 

[DC2]

What are you getting at here, Dee Cee?

I don't know what I'm getting at, but I do find it fascinating.
Assuming, of course, that my observation is true.

As I noted previously, I would join you guys in your efforts.
So whatever it is I'm getting at, it seems to apply to me as well.

 

[zoiDman]

...

But my days of experimenting were over after I ditched the blue foam.

Blue Foam. Now that Takes me Back.

Just like I have a Vivid Memory of standing in the Beverage Isle in Albertson's measuring a Pyramid Tea Bag with a Machinist 6" Rule.

LOL... Good Times.

 

[Rossum]

Close-up of Juul coil & wick:

Three pods worth of fruut juuce in a standard 6ml feeder bottle:

That's $12 worth of juuce...

 

[house mouse]

Well, mine showed up today 10 minutes after I got home from the movies. Bummer, because that was where I really wanted to take it to try it out for stealthiness. I've been using it for close to 2 hours now and......I like the little thing. The first draw or two was kind of rough but after that I've seemed to acclimate to it quite well. And I don't hit it near as often or as hard as I hit my mods. It's currently sitting on my computer desk with 2 mechanicals and a regulated box mod. I just reach for a vape of whichever when I feel like it and it makes it into the rotation up to my mouth a bit more often than the others right now. Maybe the newness factor? It's been a long time since I've had a cigarette but in my memory this is pretty close.

I don't know if this would have stopped me from smoking though. I started vaping with 36mg nicotine on a basic eGo with a 510 atty and lived with that thing firmly planted in my mouth for the first few weeks after I stopped smoking. I feel like the hit from this is pretty close to a basic eGo with high nic juice, and I used them for 15 months and never smoked although I did start weaning my nic down a few weeks into it. So, then again it might have worked for me as my initial setup. I think that would just depend on the individual.

I put the tobacco flavor in as my first pod thinking I wouldn't like it much and could start tearing that pod apart and seeing what makes it tick so to speak. I'm curious to see the coil assembly and see if there's any possibility of changing out the wick for fresh later on down the line. Probably not, but I like to tinker so it will give me a bit of fun playing with it. But it turns out I like this tobacco flavor just fine so my tinkering will have to wait until I get this pod drained.

Stealth wise this thing will be great. I have pretty small hands and can hide it easily.
For work I see this as being very useful as a stealth vape and kind of see this getting the majority of it's use from me there. I want to get through the rest of the flavors and a few more days of use on it(especially at work). If I still feel the same about it, I'll be picking up another device(so I can have one charging while I'm using one) and some more pods.

 

[house mouse]

Close-up of Juul coil & wick:

Three pods worth of fruut juuce in a standard 6ml feeder bottle:

That's $12 worth of juuce...

Rossum, I can't quite figure out what I'm looking at with that wick. Is it separate strands of wicking material pushed through the vertical plastic looking pieces? Is that wicking material on the inside wall of the pod? Is that what is under the "chimney" in the center of the pod?

 

[Rossum]

Rossum, I can't quite figure out what I'm looking at with that wick. Is it separate strands of wicking material pushed through the vertical plastic looking pieces? Is that wicking material on the inside wall of the pod? Is that what is under the "chimney" in the center of the pod?

Yup, that's what's under the chimney. The chimney has been forcibly removed from the coil assembly, after I cut open the pod. The wick looks to be just a round piece of silica, the ends of which are exposed to the juice in the pod.

Although it doesn't seem like it would be too difficult to refill these pods, I don't think it's at all practical to rebuild them. Personally, I'm more interested in the juuce...

 

[zoiDman]

Three pods worth of fruut juuce in a standard 6ml feeder bottle:

That's $12 worth of juuce...

Wow... Brings a New Meaning to the words "Liquid Gold".