I will never quit and I will never go to 0 nic. I need my nic fix like some people need their caffeine fix. This is a hobby for me. Nothing beats the feeling of building a successful coil! And you can't beat that Christmas feeling of vapemail! 
anyone else NOT want to quit?
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It is definitely a hoppy and I love the taste. Always looking for something new
Not planning to ever quit vaping, actually I dont even plan on cutting my nic levels down either: thats part of the enjoyment for me.
dont plan on stopping my vaping unless it gets more expensive than ciggies and patches, then Ill go back to licking Nicoderms... talk about a nicsic blast there... gack
Considering I didn't plan on smoking 2 PAD for 30 years I'm not about to over-think quitting the only thing that managed to break that problem for good.
And since Nicorette in either form is now approved for "any time, use on the fly, whenever you need it"... what was the question again?
And since Nicorette in either form is now approved for "any time, use on the fly, whenever you need it"... what was the question again?
When I dropped the cigarettes for ecigs people asked me, 'when are you going to quit those (ecigs)?' I would tell them that I never planned to quit the act of smoking, just switch to vaping.
Now, its not just replacement therapy, its a meaningful hobby.
Now, its not just replacement therapy, its a meaningful hobby.
Sorry for creating such a stink. My gal & I just split up & I have been less than eloquent lately. . Apologies again.
Im not someone who drank tye antz kool aid. I assure you ive never been afraid to think for myself.
In general nicotine isnt good for us bc of the health risks that it presents. There are exceptions where nicotine can be good for a person if they have certain medical issues. But for the vast majority of the populace nicotines risks outweigh its benefits.
That being said.. vaping juices that contain nicotine is so much less unhealthy than smoking cigarettes that it really is the lesser of the two evils..
And I love nicotine! Especially when I get stressed. Eventually id like to move to 0mg juices.. but if I cant im fine w that. . And I dont plan to quit vaping. .. its just so cool!
So again im sorry for creating a fuss.
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Im not someone who drank tye antz kool aid. I assure you ive never been afraid to think for myself.
In general nicotine isnt good for us bc of the health risks that it presents. There are exceptions where nicotine can be good for a person if they have certain medical issues. But for the vast majority of the populace nicotines risks outweigh its benefits.
That being said.. vaping juices that contain nicotine is so much less unhealthy than smoking cigarettes that it really is the lesser of the two evils..
And I love nicotine! Especially when I get stressed. Eventually id like to move to 0mg juices.. but if I cant im fine w that. . And I dont plan to quit vaping. .. its just so cool!
So again im sorry for creating a fuss.
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Do you think nicotine presents more health risks than caffeine?
I'll just leave this here.
http://......................./top-10-studies-on-nicotine-you-need-to-know-about/
Woot, why is it censored?
http://ecigarettereviewed DOT com/top-10-studies-on-nicotine-you-need-to-know-about/
What "health risks" please?
This is a collection of things from the vaping side: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/265539-safety-long-term-nicotine-use.html
With this link especially worth reading: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...sition-e-cigarettes-health-risk-analysis.html
And this is a statement by the the FDA itself
Nicotine Replacement Therapy Labels May Change
I dont think nic or caffeine are healthy. . And tbh I dont propose living some life devoid of all health risks. Im personal ly proud of each & everyone who quit using tobacco.
But there are health risks.
We all know (or should) that high doses of nicotine can be fatal.. but we can easily avoid that w common sense & following safety precautions when handling high nic solutions.
But in low doses nic is a stimulant & thus potentially can create problems associated w stimulant use. Like higher BP. Increased heart rate & possible stress to tje heart.. but to be nicotine specific. ..
Thats from the side effects section on the nicotine wiki..
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine
Many things in life aren't healthy for us depending on certain factors. Heck sunlight is a known carcinogen but we need it to process vitamin d. Everything in moderation I guess.
The only point I wanted to make is that nicotine is not a benign substance.
But it sure is a lot better than smoking analogs.
Edited to add I am not trying to troll here.. and I have an open mind to this. Im on yalls side.. really.. id love to believe that nic is benign.. but the data ive come across prevents me from doing so.
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But there are health risks.
We all know (or should) that high doses of nicotine can be fatal.. but we can easily avoid that w common sense & following safety precautions when handling high nic solutions.
But in low doses nic is a stimulant & thus potentially can create problems associated w stimulant use. Like higher BP. Increased heart rate & possible stress to tje heart.. but to be nicotine specific. ..
Thats from the side effects section on the nicotine wiki..
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine
Many things in life aren't healthy for us depending on certain factors. Heck sunlight is a known carcinogen but we need it to process vitamin d. Everything in moderation I guess.
The only point I wanted to make is that nicotine is not a benign substance.
But it sure is a lot better than smoking analogs.
Edited to add I am not trying to troll here.. and I have an open mind to this. Im on yalls side.. really.. id love to believe that nic is benign.. but the data ive come across prevents me from doing so.
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Wiki isn't a good place for nicotine information. Last time I was there almost everything they had was about smoking claimed to be about nicotine.
Nicotine is about like caffeine. Bad if you have heart/blood issues, not that big of a worry if you don't.
Agreed w the last bit.
Its not that bad for you. But its not benign...
So if its not benign its not healthy for you to use.. which is why I said its not good for you (but should have specified from a medical/physical health standpoint.)
It certainly can be good for alleviating stress and psychologically.
Essentially we agree w each other & are arguing over semantics.
I for one will quit beating a dead horse and again apologize about my snarky comment.
Lets have a vape and be friends.
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Its not that bad for you. But its not benign...
So if its not benign its not healthy for you to use.. which is why I said its not good for you (but should have specified from a medical/physical health standpoint.)
It certainly can be good for alleviating stress and psychologically.
Essentially we agree w each other & are arguing over semantics.
I for one will quit beating a dead horse and again apologize about my snarky comment.
Lets have a vape and be friends.
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I don't plan to quit or lower my nic. I'm thinking nic and a bit of caffeine are good for me
I'm a firm believer that nicotine itself is not the horrible substance we'd been led to believe. The facts just don't prove that to be true. So many of the negative things written about nicotine aren't about nicotine itself but about smoking. Unfortunately the words smoking and nicotine have often become synonyms which they are NOT. Depending on all the information about a person it certainly CAN be something some people should limit or avoid, but for most people its not a horrible substance for their well being.
One thing that I've learned through my years of vaping is that for many of us, our perspectives do change with time. I didn't plan to totally quit smoking when I purchased my first ecig, but once I started vaping I quickly totally stopped smoking. I decided to attempt to lower my nicotine usage (I wasn't trying to go to 0 mg just lower from using 20 mg to 6 mg) only because of the court battle at the time which if the FDA had won would have shut down the ecig industry. My stored nic would last a lot longer if I was using 6mg then using 20 mg. The FDA lost that court battle, but to my great surprise I lost my addiction to nicotine after vaping for only 4 months. I would have sworn at the time I'd continue to vape forever and have for over 3 years since not being addicted to nic. I do sometimes choose to use nicotine, very much the same as I sometimes choose to drink regular coffee even though most often I drink decafe coffee and vape 0 mg juice. I recently went on a two week vacation and realized when I returned home that I had vaped very little while I was away. It made me realize how easily I could walk away from vaping which is something I never thought I'd say. I have no idea if I'll ever stop vaping, only time will tell but now I'm guessing that there will come a day I do decide to walk away from vaping because it just don't interest me anymore.
One thing that I've learned through my years of vaping is that for many of us, our perspectives do change with time. I didn't plan to totally quit smoking when I purchased my first ecig, but once I started vaping I quickly totally stopped smoking. I decided to attempt to lower my nicotine usage (I wasn't trying to go to 0 mg just lower from using 20 mg to 6 mg) only because of the court battle at the time which if the FDA had won would have shut down the ecig industry. My stored nic would last a lot longer if I was using 6mg then using 20 mg. The FDA lost that court battle, but to my great surprise I lost my addiction to nicotine after vaping for only 4 months. I would have sworn at the time I'd continue to vape forever and have for over 3 years since not being addicted to nic. I do sometimes choose to use nicotine, very much the same as I sometimes choose to drink regular coffee even though most often I drink decafe coffee and vape 0 mg juice. I recently went on a two week vacation and realized when I returned home that I had vaped very little while I was away. It made me realize how easily I could walk away from vaping which is something I never thought I'd say. I have no idea if I'll ever stop vaping, only time will tell but now I'm guessing that there will come a day I do decide to walk away from vaping because it just don't interest me anymore.
At this point in time, I do not plan on quitting vaping. I do, however, want to lower my nicotine. I vape almost constantly and I do feel like I am getting a bit too much. I'm at 16mg. I'd like to go to 6 or 8mg.
I plan to start cutting my nic down this fall, and have a goal of being able to stop vaping by summer 2015.
I'll have had the opportunity of having been able to vape at its peak, before all of the crazy taxes come into play... Which is pretty cool.
Perhaps if we actually abandon nicotine collectively, the next tax grab will spread out to enough people, that it will no longer be tolerated by the masses.
Yes, I know. Naive to even hope enough people could have the willpower/vision/desire to make it worthwhile, and cooperatively stick it to the politicians...But, a man's gotta have dreams.
I'll have had the opportunity of having been able to vape at its peak, before all of the crazy taxes come into play... Which is pretty cool.
Perhaps if we actually abandon nicotine collectively, the next tax grab will spread out to enough people, that it will no longer be tolerated by the masses.
Yes, I know. Naive to even hope enough people could have the willpower/vision/desire to make it worthwhile, and cooperatively stick it to the politicians...But, a man's gotta have dreams.
Require caffeine to function properly as I have experienced the negative effects without it. New to vaping but already noticing how lost I sometimes feel which I take for a nic craving. Have known quite a few people I actually liked moreso as smokers than the colossal a-holes they became as ex-smokers. No...I like where I am currently at 18mg and @ +/-4ml's a day. And if my intake falls it will be my body telling me to back off a bit.
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