Anyone try the Aspire clearos/tanks yet?

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I don't dry burn anymore. I just wash the heads in very hot water and let them sit in alcohol for a long time. Rotate the heads and different clearos so I have 20 heads in constant rotation. Been months since one had funny taste or not produced enough flavor. I say this because the rotation helps heads to get really clean and working longer. I suggest if you're using only one or two clearos to have 3 heads for each and keep them in alcohol until you run out of heads. The soak softens them enough to have them working great.

On the other hand, I don't see a lot of wicking action on the aspire. Wicking IS a problem, even with 70/30 liquid. I have to blow my way through a tank and I really don't want to work that hard...

Can you elaborate on your cleaning process? What alcohol/proof do you use? How long do you soak them? How long do you let them dry after soaking? I need to clean a few of mine that are all gunked up.
 

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Back in the game!!

I got my mvp2 & aspire tanks. The glass ones. These things are friggin awesome.I did wash off the tank itself before using it. I took a wash clot u and vigorously rubbed the threads. Small metal shavings came off. I took the new head and dripped about 7 drops of juice in it and was ready to fill up.

I must say that this is the smoothest vape ive ever had. Its hard to explain but its smooth. The flavor comes through amazingly. I thought it would eat up juice like crazy and was suprised it didnt.

I have added the iclear 30 to my backup to the backup stash. The mvp 2 is so awesome. I love the puff counter. Ive retired my vamo, and my mech is on vacation. Its smaller than I thought and is built like a tank.

Current location: vaping paradis3 baby
 

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Back in the game!!I must say that this is the smoothest vape ive ever had. Its hard to explain but its smooth. The flavor comes through amazingly. I thought it would eat up juice like crazy and was suprised it didnt.

I must say I agree. Out of the box the Anyvape Vivi BDC produced a surprisingly full vape, lots of taste and vapor. It was right up there on stinginess with juice vaporizing very efficiently through a number of half-tank fills (about half a ml each). And pretty impressive as I did a side-by-side with a Kanger Mini Protank on matched eVic's. Resistance was 1.8Ω and to mimic performance I used a 1.5mm contact coil (microcoil) of my own design and build. And they were close, really close with the Kanger having a slight flavor advantage.

I did 6 tank fills of half ml with each vaping both atty's alternately over a two day period. Towards the end of this period there was a pronounced flavor improvement in the AV BDC and after a brief period it settled down to a very slightly muted but balanced flavor output. The Kanger Mini predictably began to discolor the dense VG tobacco blend I used for the comparison, as do most clearo's, after about 2.5 ml. However, there was never any significant color change in the juice for the AV BDC even out more than three days of continued (not exclusive) use beyond the time of comparison. I finally retired the AV the fourth day.

Reading through the posts on this thread, and others here and elsewhere, I've come to the conclusion that the AV BDC popped a coil within the first 24 hours of use as reported earlier in this thread. Not typical for most users I would think, but if spread out, it would likely be within what I would expect the average life of these coils for a more typical serious consumer (a former non-casual smoker). I would say that would be 5-7 days for a pack-a-day user. I can't say this would be typical performance for these coil heads but my experience by comparison with the similar cousin, the typical carto tank atomizer.

This would though explain the dry, muted, underperforming reports being noticeably posted. It would point possibly to some quality production issues with these heads. In retrospect, you kinda get locked into the perspective of a comparison. The flavor of the Kanger predictably changed as the efficient power of a micro coil in a Mini affected the juice. Sorta like reheating a good soup. It tends to taste better, richer, until it's past its prime. The AV BDC did not. This was misleading. Perhaps because of the reported fiber-fill, and by design. It remained quite flat throughout but particularly so after the short burst of flavor, there came a brief burned period. That resolved, the flavor didn't become denser but in hindsight, become subtly less sustained with a slight burned taste eventually overwhelming it. Such that by the fourth day, with two days of comparison and two in regular rotation, I simply had to say enough.

For a typical clearo a significant change in color pretty much coincides with the approaching time to swap coils or rebuild. It's a good indicator. With the AV BDC you simple can't see it coming. And a powerful flavor could mask the change in the condition of the coil.

I don't know if the AV BDC, which would seem to signal the beginning of a more standardized quality-controlled coil head production, is going to be a "game changer". I'm not so sure I see the reasons why it should with the above and so much consumer willingness to "let's all just try it". Where is the incentive?

And it begs the question — Why? If the atomizer on a Blu just works, why doesn't this one? I bought many and they just did. In Florida, I used them for poolside companions to save my other gear. Some for months. Why such a disparity?

But now almost six months in the more that I try mass produced solutions touted as the be-all-end-all I'm reminded of analogs and what a burden and hazard they became with regulatory standardizations. I'm starting to see the point of view of much of the old guard in vaping those experienced and skeptical to replacement technologies that you can't see, touch, taste and feel yourself.

Finally, this was just one test. The next nine heads might be grand. But, for me, the possibility of that 9 out of 10 is just not good enough to justify the trial to find it out.

I like solutions that do just work. Let someone else be the crash dummy.

Just sayin'.

Good luck!

p.s. And BTW, I still use Ego-T's out on the pool deck.

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I must say I agree. Out of the box the Anyvape Vivi BDC produced a surprisingly full vape, lots of taste and vapor. It was right up there on stinginess with juice vaporizing very efficiently through a number of half-tank fills (about half a ml each). And pretty impressive as I did a side-by-side with a Kanger Mini Protank on matched eVic's. Resistance was 1.8Ω and to mimic performance I used a 1.5mm contact coil (microcoil) of my own design and build. And they were close, really close with the Kanger having a slight flavor advantage.

I did 6 tank fills of half ml with each vaping both atty's alternately over a two day period. Towards the end of this period there was a pronounced flavor improvement in the AV BDC and after a brief period it settled down to a very slightly muted but balanced flavor output. The Kanger Mini predictably began to discolor the dense VG tobacco blend I used for the comparison, as do most clearo's, after about 2.5 ml. However, there was never any significant color change in the juice for the AV BDC even out more than three days of continued (not exclusive) use beyond the time of comparison. I finally retired the AV the fourth day.

Reading through the posts on this thread, and others here and elsewhere, I've come to the conclusion that the AV BDC popped a coil within the first 24 hours of use as reported earlier in this thread. Not typical for most users I would think, but if spread out, it would likely be within what I would expect the average life of these coils for a more typical serious consumer (a former non-casual smoker). I would say that would be 5-7 days for a pack-a-day user. I can't say this would be typical performance for these coil heads but my experience by comparison with the similar cousin, the typical carto tank atomizer.

This would though explain the dry, muted, underperforming reports being noticeably posted. It would point possibly to some quality production issues with these heads. In retrospect, you kinda get locked into the perspective of a comparison. The flavor of the Kanger predictably changed as the efficient power of a micro coil in a Mini affected the juice. Sorta like reheating a good soup. It tends to taste better, richer, until it's past its prime. The AV BDC did not. Perhaps because of the reported fiber-fill, and by design. It remained quite flat throughout but particularly so after the short burst of flavor, there came a brief burned period. That resolved, the flavor didn't become denser but in hindsight, become subtly less sustained with a slight burned taste eventually overwhelming it. Such that by the fourth day, with two days of comparison and two in regular rotation, I simply had to say enough.

For a typical clearo a significant change in color pretty much coincides with the approaching time to swap coils or rebuild. It's a good indicator. With the AV BDC you simple can't see it coming. And a powerful flavor could mask the change in the condition of the coil.

I don't know if the AV BDC, which would seem to signal the beginning of a more standardized quality-controlled coil head production, is going to be a "game changer". I'm not to sure I see the reasons why it should with the above and so much consumer willingness to "let's all just try it". Where is the incentive?

And it begs the question — Why? If the atomizer on a Blu just works, why doesn't this one? I bought many and they just did. In Florida, I used them for poolside companions to save my other investments. Some for months. Why such a disparity?

But now almost six months in the more that I try mass produced solutions touted as the be-all-end-all I'm reminded of analogs and what a burden and hazard they became with regulatory standardizations. I'm starting to see the point of view of much of the old guard in vaping that preceded us that hesitate to adopt and adapt to a replacement technology that you can't see, touch, taste, feel yourself.

Finally, this was just one test. The next nine heads might be grand. But, for me, the possibility of that 9 out of 10 is just not good enough to justify the trial to find it out.

I like solutions that do just work. Let someone else be the crash dummy.

Just sayin'.

Good luck!

p.s. And BTW, I still use Ego-T's out on the pool deck.

:)

7/8 AV BDC heads i got were bad which it makes it. %14 chance the head will vape properly, it will wick and will produce a true flavor. However, that only lasted 24hrz before the burning and poor wicking started. How can a device work well for the first 24hrs then just stop. Then the next 7 heads don't wick?.... It's mind boggling. There has got to be some serious QC issues going on. 50/50 blen on a vision spinner.
 

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7/8 AV BDC heads i got were bad which it makes it. %14 chance the head will vape properly, it will wick and will produce a true flavor. However, that only lasted 24hrz before the burning and poor wicking started. How can a device work well for the first 24hrs then just stop. Then the next 7 heads don't wick?.... It's mind boggling. There has got to be some serious QC issues going on. 50/50 blen on a vision spinner.

50/50 vapes horribly in the aspire. It's not only the quality control on the heads. The atomizer head performs extremely poor with 50/50 liquids such as five pawns. On the other hand, it performs much better with high pg juices such as halo.
 

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50/50 vapes horribly in the aspire. It's not only the quality control on the heads. The atomizer head performs extremely poor with 50/50 liquids such as five pawns. On the other hand, it performs much better with high pg juices such as halo.

The juice not wicking properly may be exactly what the trouble is for some of these people reporting a bad taste. Dry silica is horrible tasting. I don't think that it is that a handful of people got a bad batch or bad coils out there. Thicker juice may require making the holes bigger to the wick.
 

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The juice not wicking properly may be exactly what the trouble is for some of these people reporting a bad taste. Dry silica is horrible tasting. I don't think that it is that a handful of people got a bad batch or bad coils out there. Thicker juice may require making the holes bigger to the wick.

Not too sure I buy that. Wouldn't everyone using 50/50 or higher vg be having this issue? Not everyone is having this issue. People are reporting flooding with 100% vg. How's that possible then? The odd thing is, the drAw is really tight so one would expect it to be a juice straw but in fact it won't pull liquid into the head. It's like those 2 holes on the head just get blocked instantly.
 

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The juice not wicking properly may be exactly what the trouble is for some of these people reporting a bad taste. Dry silica is horrible tasting. I don't think that it is that a handful of people got a bad batch or bad coils out there. Thicker juice may require making the holes bigger to the wick.

An alternative for people getting dry hits on the aspire with thicker juices is the protank 3. Mine is performing really well with my 50/50 liquids so far. Vapor production is not that great on the protank3 but flavor is great even with thicker juices.
 
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An alternative for people getting dry hits on the aspire with thicker juices is the protank 3. Mine is performing really well with my 50/50 liquids so far. Vapor production is not that great on the protank3 but flavor is great even with thicker juices.

lol no thanks. I have bought more than enough of kangers failed product line. Don't see the protank 3 being any different. Wouldn't waste cash on that. Glad it's working out for you.
 

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lol no thanks. I have bought more than enough of kangers failed product line. Don't see the protank 3 being any different. Wouldn't waste cash on that. Glad it's working out for you.

The protank 3 provides a completely different vape than the older pro tanks. I hated the protank2 and mini. I was skeptical myself until i tried the pro tank 3. It is not perfect, but it is performing significantly better than any other clearo that i have tried.
 

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I am having way better luck with the "poorly reviewed" protank 3. No issues whatsoever. The reviews rave about the aspire, but truth of the matter is that its a piece of junk. I bought all these replacement heads thinking this thing is the best thing since sliced bread. It's not only me that is having this problem. People at the local shop were also complaining about the same problem.

I've had good luck with the Aspire I just got, great vapor and nice flavor. I also have a PT3 and I hate it. Which is sad as I love Kanger PT. I have several in daily use. The PT3 produces less vapor at 11 watts than my cheap GS H2 $4 clearo I use when doing yard work.
 

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Ya seems to be split down the middle maraud. Half the people love them, half the people aren't pleased. If anyone is willing to send me a working aspire head I will Send you one that doesn't wick. I would like to try a experiment.

I'm your huckleberry. Whad'ya have in mind. I'm just a spit down the road.

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Not everything works for everyone. For me T3's have been awesome. I'm enjoying my last heads from the original version (full base). I do buy a clearo, try it with the heads that come, and if it works I buy spare heads. But I'm too tired to buy things that don't work. I'll stick to what I have.
As for the Aspire, as I noted earlier, even with the very light Liqua liquids it's too much work to make it wick. I'll try adding a little water this time to see if it wicks better, but no, not working for me. No bad taste, but I have to continually make dry pulls for it to wick. Too much hard work to vape.
 

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Not everything works for everyone. For me T3's have been awesome. I'm enjoying my last heads from the original version (full base). I do buy a clearo, try it with the heads that come, and if it works I buy spare heads. But I'm too tired to buy things that don't work. I'll stick to what I have.
As for the Aspire, as I noted earlier, even with the very light Liqua liquids it's too much work to make it wick. I'll try adding a little water this time to see if it wicks better, but no, not working for me. No bad taste, but I have to continually make dry pulls for it to wick. Too much hard work to vape.

You bring up a valid point. The product may be targeted at the broad swath of users in the middle. You with very light, me with very dark thick liquids are not in that profile.

I did an informal analysis of Mini BCD for a contact. I shared some results here hoping the info is helpful to some. I see the variety of difficulties is broader than what I encountered. As I said you make a good point.

Good luck.

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I'm your huckleberry. Whad'ya have in mind. I'm just a spit down the road.

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i want to swap heads mac. if you have a head that actually wicks the way its suppose to and i will give you a head that i know does not wick and i want see if your head will still work in my tank, or will my head start working in your tank. we need to use 50/50 juice
 

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I like my Aspire but I vape so much I think I need a 3 hole head.
The heads I have have not lasted longer than a few days before I start to get a burny taste. The heads that I am using are from my Vision X Jet which are Aspire - style coils. I am using then in my eGo (genuine) Aspire tank - that may be an issue.
I got a Vivi style Vision tank with those heads but found that I would have to do some post - pulling because the screw - on part of the bottom of the Vivi tank was too long(or the coil too short) to make a connection.
I will be getting some genuine Aspire heads to see if i notice a difference. I did get one with my eGo installed but it didn't last as long as I had hoped.
A fresh head is awesome but after a few days there are wicking issues and I have to dry pull to get it to wick.
I am running a 2.1ohm coil at 7.5w on a Smok Zmax with DIY juice that is approximately 50/50.
I found that keeping the tank topped off helps a lot.. I don't let the juice get anywhere near the connection between the coil top and the inside cylinder.
Methinks these heads are coming from different manufacturers, plus they are hand - built...perhaps this explains the difference in performance?
In any case, every new innovation comes with some bugs - e cig tech is constantly in a state of flux and is always entering new territory....
 
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