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Is 30w enough to keep it in tp with that atty? What happens if you turn it up to 45w or so?
30W is plenty, the Reliant isn't under powered I assure you.
45W is the same really, just takes less time to reach temperature.
There is just something about the Atomic rda that doesn't require a lot of power, I don't know if it's because of the 19mm size or low internal resistance. I do know I never need over 40 watts to give massive amounts of flavor/vapor, it's the only rda I will use.
45W is the same really, just takes less time to reach temperature.
There is just something about the Atomic rda that doesn't require a lot of power, I don't know if it's because of the 19mm size or low internal resistance. I do know I never need over 40 watts to give massive amounts of flavor/vapor, it's the only rda I will use.
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I found the following review useful: , by the looks of it, it's the first video review of Apollo Reliant, so hopefully it will help you as much as it has helped me. 
I'm sure there will be plenty more video reviews about it soon, so we may see different opinions about it soon enough. Although, from what I've read and watched - it looks pretty decent.
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I'm sure there will be plenty more video reviews about it soon, so we may see different opinions about it soon enough. Although, from what I've read and watched - it looks pretty decent.
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Nice find on the review, I agree with him. It's more than decent, not flawless in operation but close.
After checking my 'local Apollo dealer' (they only carry the juice) I ordered one from the US website.
The argument that I needed a mod with TCR adjustment so I could use the ~$10 spool of SS430 may not make sense to the other half but I guess it does to me.
The argument that I needed a mod with TCR adjustment so I could use the ~$10 spool of SS430 may not make sense to the other half but I guess it does to me.
Hi Guys, I've been following this thread while considering a Reliant vs having to go for a DNA200 to get a nice TCR adjustment. I'd rather not have to use a windows program to adjust TCR, so the Reliant is out front.
I couldn't decipher why the switch to SS430 from SS304 or SS316, both of which are more heat resistant. SS430 is stated to be below oxidation up to 800f, so probably no worries. Just curious if the Reliant TCR could not go low enough for 304, 316 or 317?
I couldn't decipher why the switch to SS430 from SS304 or SS316, both of which are more heat resistant. SS430 is stated to be below oxidation up to 800f, so probably no worries. Just curious if the Reliant TCR could not go low enough for 304, 316 or 317?
I know 304 works, not sure about 316.
There is no issue with 430 heat capacity, I have gotten it almost hot enough to melt and see no visual oxidation.
There is no issue with 430 heat capacity, I have gotten it almost hot enough to melt and see no visual oxidation.
SS430 contains no Nickel, that's the main reason for the switch. I tried SS304 and got almost instant irritation (Nickel 10%). I plan on retrying sooner or later but, frankly, I'm having a great experience with Titanium.
I'm of a similar mind. Ti is performing fine for me, and I have a preset for it.
Besides tinkering with new wire, what's the advantage to SS?
Stainless steel is very resistant to chemical reaction and leeching, especially 316L and 317L, you can dry burn it, make contact coils, and anything anyone's listed as a benefit of kanthal, but there is enough tcr to do TC... barely.
That's about it.
As for the switch from 316/317 to 430, I don't know as though it's a full on "switch" as something else to try. It's got some properties that look better than other types of SS, and some not as good.
That's about it.
As for the switch from 316/317 to 430, I don't know as though it's a full on "switch" as something else to try. It's got some properties that look better than other types of SS, and some not as good.
Indeed, I use it for %0.5 nickel content. Half of one percent I can handle, I also like the resistance per mm since it falls right in the range I vape in.
So, Ti has a larger Ni content?
I'm wanting to learn why the switch to SS. Other than preference, which I can definitely relate to, as can my wallet!
I'm pretty sure 317 and 316 has too low a TCR value to be TC capable on anything except maybe the DNA200.
The reasons why I use 430 in order of importance.
1. Nickel content is only a trace.
2. I can use the same atomizer/build on standard wattage or temperature control modes.
3. I can dry burn without issue.
4. The resistance perfectly matches my preferred building style. Twisted 8/7 around 2.4mm mandrel is 0.45 ohms, perfect. Same setup with single strand is 0.72 ohms (just right for kayfun on mech).
Pretty much the perfect wire for me, I just got lucky that 28g fit my needs.
No nickel in grade 1 titanium (not sure about other grades.
Not being able to easily and safely dry burn titanium, the price, and can't safely use on mechs and wattage devices is the only issues I have with Ti.
Don't switch if your happy with Ti, I'm not here to change anyone's mind
No nickel in grade 1 titanium (not sure about other grades.
No being able to easily and safely dry burn titanium and the price is the only issues I have with Ti.
Don't switch if your happy with Ti, I'm not here to change anyone's mind
The last 3 reasons on your other post are sufficient for me. I have a non-TC mod that is languishing and SS coils would give it a chance to be used. I prefer to coil one type, and currently that is Ti for TC use. Sounds like SS would allow me to have one coil to rule them all!
Now to find out if SS is workable with a Ti setting as my other mods do not have the ability to change the TCR.
Thanks.
I won a Cloupor TC and until I have it I won't know if 430 can be used in Ti mode.
I sent a few feet to cigatron who has an Evic VT, hopefully he has gotten it by now and will let us know soon. It was in a regular envelope so I hope it didn't get mangled.
I'll stay tuned. I'd like to get a SS ready MOD, but except for the DNA200, none sound like a good match for SS, especially the 430. May as well use something I own if that's the case.
I swapped tanks yesterday, from a Ti build to a SS430 build, and forgot to change profiles (DNA200).
I'm always in the mid 20's on watts but the Ti was set to 480 on temp and I couldn't figure out why the hell it was only hitting 230 on the temp as it seemed to be vaping ok. It then hit me what I'd forgot to do! While it vaped 'ok' I could tell something wasn't right. It wasn't bad though.
Stay tuned.
430 definitely works well with the Reliant, the twisted build I'm running is pretty flawless. I do get tired of the Reliant asking the new atomizer question after an hour or so of sitting idle, they could have implemented this feature differently. I want the ability to turn it off, it isn't needed often enough to warrant it being on all the time.
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