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I find myself not missing the VV option since the Grand is so simple and effective at producing awesome flavor and vapor with low resistance atomizers. But if variable voltage is something you long for save up a little more and get the VV Grand. I think if you want to try a bottom feeder RBA eventually it'll probably be better to go with the VV Grand.
Not used or returned. Robert now does all the finishing in house. Powder coating and anodizing. If he notices a flaw in the finish he will mark it blemished. Most get one and wonder what the heck he saw wrong!
Yeah that's true, so if I buy the VV Grand or regular Grand, what else do I need to buy?
Trying to see how much I need to spend compared to the others vaping options.
Trying to see how much I need to spend compared to the others vaping options.
I would go with the Grand. In this day of the RBA you can adjust to your taste like never before. Only with a VV. The RBA is a cheaper alternative and gives you flexibility of resistance.
The Grand is a all around, take it out and not worry PV. You can run water over and inside the Grand to clean it.
With the electronics you must be more careful around water!
The Grand would show you the craftsmanship and durability of the REO. However if you want more voltage capabilities the VV Grand will be great.
A L.R atty on the Grand works fine for me. I use my VV Grand and love it, but use my Grands more.
Thanks !!! Will be getting the grand hehe
Now now...what else do I need to buy to have the complete set up?
Now now...what else do I need to buy to have the complete set up?
At least two AW IMR 18650 batteries and a charger
Atty's or cartomizers. Drip tips if you don't have them.
Any recommendations for the atty's or cartomizers?
And cartomizers? I thought Reos Mods only uses atty's?
Been reading post stating Reos Mods + Atty's dripping = takes you to a whole new world.
Never seen a post about the Reo mods with cartos.
And cartomizers? I thought Reos Mods only uses atty's?
Been reading post stating Reos Mods + Atty's dripping = takes you to a whole new world.
Never seen a post about the Reo mods with cartos.
Cartos work great! You just squeeze juice from the bottle to the cartos! No need to prefil. With the atty's the same thing. There is a hole in the bottom and the juice flows up the tubing from the bottle into the atty or cartos. No dripping needed. Easy as pie! We call it squonking!
There are attys just for dripping, no hole in the bottom. You don't want those. I like the Joye 510 attys. There are others though that are low cost and work well. When I was starting out with my REO purchase I had to watch what I spent. I got these: 510 | Atomizers | iVAPE
Cartos are cheaper. They can be a great alternative on the REO. Some people use them exclusively.
Will the Phoenix Bully and Fahrenheit from GotVapes work also?
GotVapes Fahrenheit™ RBA - Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer [gv-FahrenheitRBS] - $12.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more
Phoenix Bully Rebuildable Atomizer w/ Extra Coil and Wick [gv-BullyAtomizer] - $10.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more
The one's on your link are they RBA?
GotVapes Fahrenheit™ RBA - Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer [gv-FahrenheitRBS] - $12.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more
Phoenix Bully Rebuildable Atomizer w/ Extra Coil and Wick [gv-BullyAtomizer] - $10.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more
The one's on your link are they RBA?
The toughie is that if a person tends to like/need higher power, consistency, or likes to be able to nudge a little higher or lower during the day, the VV really is the way to go. I've had a really beautiful wooden bottom feeder, with good high capacity 18650 battery, and good LR atty. At 1.5 ohms the unit would run briefly up near 12W, then quickly drop to a little over 9W, while a 1.8 ohm atty would start at 9.8W, drop to 7.6W. If someone is good with a brief period of relatively high power, then a pretty long period of definitely lower power, it works, but you really can't tune it mid-stream.
I ended up passing along the unregulated feeder to someone who appreciated it and was happy to work within its constraints, but that was a real trade of capability. Yes, you can use a Kick in it, but that then forces use of significantly smaller battery, shorter run time, another conscious trade (and noticeable nudge up in total cost).
The plus of the unregulated, beyond cost, is sheer reliability. As previously noted the VV electronics don't like to be put in the water (though they stand up fine to a little normal rain, snow, etc., during use). The unregulated unit doesn't get harmed by water, if you rinse it off and dry it out.
Decisions, decisions. Both Grands are beautifully crafted devices, but there are real differences that no particular atty somehow changes. There's no single right answer.
I ended up passing along the unregulated feeder to someone who appreciated it and was happy to work within its constraints, but that was a real trade of capability. Yes, you can use a Kick in it, but that then forces use of significantly smaller battery, shorter run time, another conscious trade (and noticeable nudge up in total cost).
The plus of the unregulated, beyond cost, is sheer reliability. As previously noted the VV electronics don't like to be put in the water (though they stand up fine to a little normal rain, snow, etc., during use). The unregulated unit doesn't get harmed by water, if you rinse it off and dry it out.
Decisions, decisions. Both Grands are beautifully crafted devices, but there are real differences that no particular atty somehow changes. There's no single right answer.
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I like boge LR cartos on 3.7v reos, and dual coils on VV ones. I prefer a good carto over a regular 510 atty on the reo.
Now, rebuildables are a different story...
And, you'll ultimately save money starting out with a solid, quality mod like the Reo.
Now, rebuildables are a different story...
And, you'll ultimately save money starting out with a solid, quality mod like the Reo.
No, I just linked to some attys. Here is a chart with what RBA's will work. You can also ask on that thread about the ones you mentioned. I just don't know. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/377836-reo-compatible-rbas.html#post8548204
Cannon, REOs definitely aren't for everyone. There are those who prefer complicated, cumbersome vaping off of tubes and sloshing tanks for sure. Here is a short list I put together to help people with what seems like a no brainier now that I am using exclusively REOS. I dine even look at any other devices, except other REO's:
Do you like the idea of filling cartos? (if the answer is yes then don't get aREO).
Do you like the idea of having to carry back up cartos, tank parts, batteries, juice and backup devices around everywhere you go? (if the answer is yes then don't get a REO).
Do you like the idea of depending on several devices, like one for home, one for in the car, one for hiking in the woods, one for the church parking lot and one to show off (leds, blinking lights, chrome finish, sloshing tank of juice) at vaping circle jerk parties? (if the answer is yes then don't get a REO).
Does the idea if vaping on a big, shiny tube appeal to you? (if the answer is yes then don't get a REO).
Does the idea of putting your faith in a plastic bottom feeder to "save money" appeal to you? (if the answer is yes then don't get a REO).
Do you want to put a lot of work into vaping only to get mediocre results (if the answer is yes then dont get a REO).
Do you want a device that can't stand on its own and needs a holder? (if the answer is yes then dont get a REO).
Do you believe that spending over $200 on a device makes you special and your device is some sort of status symbol? (if the answer is yes then don't get a REO).
See, it's kind of easy...
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Do you like the idea of filling cartos? (if the answer is yes then don't get aREO).
Do you like the idea of having to carry back up cartos, tank parts, batteries, juice and backup devices around everywhere you go? (if the answer is yes then don't get a REO).
Do you like the idea of depending on several devices, like one for home, one for in the car, one for hiking in the woods, one for the church parking lot and one to show off (leds, blinking lights, chrome finish, sloshing tank of juice) at vaping circle jerk parties? (if the answer is yes then don't get a REO).
Does the idea if vaping on a big, shiny tube appeal to you? (if the answer is yes then don't get a REO).
Does the idea of putting your faith in a plastic bottom feeder to "save money" appeal to you? (if the answer is yes then don't get a REO).
Do you want to put a lot of work into vaping only to get mediocre results (if the answer is yes then dont get a REO).
Do you want a device that can't stand on its own and needs a holder? (if the answer is yes then dont get a REO).
Do you believe that spending over $200 on a device makes you special and your device is some sort of status symbol? (if the answer is yes then don't get a REO).
See, it's kind of easy...
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I say no to all except for one...which I might misunderstood your question...
Yes the save money in the long run does appeal to me, as I want to save money and not buy different parts every time it fails on me.
Yes the save money in the long run does appeal to me, as I want to save money and not buy different parts every time it fails on me.
Cannon, exactly why there are so many REO faithful, they don't break. I have been using my REO for several months and participating in ECF for just a tad longer - in that time, I have never seen a post from any REO user stating that they are looking into a plastic bottom feeder, however, I have seen many that are just the opposite.
Saving money is relative, I wish I had the money back that I spent on my volcano and V2 prior to finding REO.
Oh, and you can usually find blemished mods on REO that are closer to 100 than 200. Both of mine are blems and I can't find anything on them that I would consider a blemish.
Good luck Cannon, the right decision may be driven by what's practical for you at the moment, but if its for a long term investment, REO is a no brainier?
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Yeah, you'd have to have eagle vision and severe OCD to find most of the 'blemishes'...
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