Are YOU a Tootle Puffer??
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I use to be that way. I was a heavy smoker for 40 years and tell me I couldnt smoke was never a wise idea. I always made sure I was able to smoke and only occasionally was I in a position where anything happened to prevent me from smoking. Yet since I quit smoking and started vaping, I am no longer that way. More than once I left the house to run errands and a mile down the road realized I forgot my vapes and it not that big of a deal. If I would of forgot my smokes panic would set in and I would either turn around or stop at the first store and get another pack. With me forgetting my vapes its like oh well, they will be there when I get home.
I know, right? The need isn't as much. I just watched a video review of a sort of disposable put out by RJ Reynolds and I thought OMG!!! I would rather use juice made in some kid's skanky basement than ANYthing made by RJ Reynolds!! There's no TELLING what they've put in their juice!! I would not put it past them to poison it to make people sick in an effort to get people to go back to cigarettes!! They've already proven that they're capable of ANYthing to make a buck!!
I actually don't hate tobacco companies. You have to care to have that level of emotion. I am over them my gear is not made by them, my eliquid is not made by them so...........I just don't think about them as a set of companies I will interact with.
I love it, XX. Now, about that GMZ... (dooooo it).
As previously indicated...
There is.
Whatevs.
The two "R"s are often confused. They are not the one-and-the-same (no, not at all).
I had the same though, Marine.
There's something about those little suckers that I like too.
You realize the difficulty, si?
And again,to da XX.
With all due respect to Brandon...
Thanks for the tease, TO. It was nice catching up. I'd love to see the now-closed "fun" too, if you're so inclined. I've gone back 10+ pages, so if it's referenced before that, the aforementioned fatigue did indeed set in.
You liked me a lot here. Applause thanks sir DP I Was in a chatty mood. About to call it a night so have a lovely day everyone.
It's about preference. With cigarettes, there was very little choice. There were very few ways one could make it "better" which is why I started rolling my own. To get away from corporate control of what I did and did not get WITH the nicotine. It's about having choices.
Freedom requires choices and the tobacco industry spent billions in their effort to control one's choices. Which is, in my opinion, the ONLY valid argument against legalizing drugs. Removing choices from something someone needs is slavery. I'm not a big fan of drugs but legalizing organized crime has ALWAYS been horrific and calling it "white collar crime" makes that addiction to money and power sound all soft and fuzzy when it's actually like putting a cute little sweater on a rabid dog.
Of course, that's the society we live in. A society that LIKES pretending that its serial killer mentality is all "warm and fuzzy". A society that says "boys will be boys" when bullies torture other kids - a society that thinks anyone who cannot or will not toe the social line deserves to suffer - and then they can't make sense of it when those on the receiving end of their torture and their "devil-may-care" attitude TOWARD that form of torture open fire on their classmates with automatic weapons.
A society that teaches its members that those who aren't as they think they should be deserve to be harmed or tortured or even die or be killed for disobeying man's petty social rules.
It's not ironic - it's just not very familiar. The vaping phenomenon is what freedom looks like. Fortunately, there are enough smokers - enough judges and attorneys and politicians and scientists and teachers and parents who smoke - or who have loved ones who smoke - to slap the control freaks down with regard to vaping. You can see how quickly the bumps in this road are being smoothed out. Most are only looking at the fight but if you look closer, you'll see that this is actually a quite smooth transition. There's no reason to fight about it. Lives are being saved. Nobody can justify the common, control freak's serial killer response to it.
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Actually it's about marketing. It's called "planed obsolescence".
The tobacco industry got rich because when you buy a cigarette, you use it ONCE, and then buy another one (or 20).
I haven't bought a single thing since January when I picked up a couple of new PVs, and I didn't spend one red cent on vaping in 2014. The vaping industry sees that as a problem. They can't stay in business off of what we bought 5 years ago.
The industry would be ecstatic if all those $3 blister pack atties had to be replaced daily.
Actually it's about marketing. It's called "planed obsolescence".
The tobacco industry got rich because when you buy a cigarette, you use it ONCE, and then buy another one (or 20).
I haven't bought a single thing since January when I picked up a couple of new PVs, and I didn't spend one red cent on vaping in 2014. The vaping industry sees that as a problem. They can't stay in business off of what we bought 5 years ago.
The industry would be ecstatic if all those $3 blister pack atties had to be replaced daily.
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I call it being "non-linear" -- I jump from one topic to the next with little to no advance warning.
It makes for creative thinking instead of being confined to a rut. Drove my teachers crazy, though.
Back then, nobody had ever heard of or imagined there was such a thing as ADD.. they just thought I was a PITA. Andria
This topic happens to be one of my fields of work. What do you want to know?
Subsonics have no physical effect on the brain. The effects of subsonics are psychological. Ultrasonics also just bounce off the skull. No psychological effects as the energy is too low. Although I guess if you were to put one in your mouth you might loosen your sinuses if you have a stuffy nose .
Just looked up ultrasonic atomizers they seem to operate at about 1.7 MHz which I don't think it would have any effect on the brain. If you were to touch the vibrating element directly to your lips could cause some physical damage.
Thank you, that's very helpful! It goes some ways to answering my query about if anyone knows!
Andria
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How they do it isn't the point. The point I was making is that it's not their fault. Industry and institutions are made up of people. They are not against you, they ARE you. There isn't an industry or institution anywhere that is not a product of the society that spawned it. Local OR global, they reflect US - "we the people".
It's a hard pill to swallow but you can do what I do - you can chew it up like candy and spit it right back at itself, ROFL! People hate corporations because they have the power to do the exact same things people wish they could do. Society is just one big serial killer tournament. You have the oppressors on one side and the oppressor-wannabes on the other. They're not even two sides of the same coin. They're the SAME side of the SAME, constantly flipping coin.
I call it being "non-linear" -- I jump from one topic to the next with little to no advance warning.
Drove my teachers crazy, though.
Andria
I was "HINA", ROFL - "Highly intelligent, no ambition". Also "odd", "a happy kid, but..." and "incorrigible". I was born wearing a t-shirt that said "You're not the boss of me". I didn't argue about it, I simply went my own way. I thought everybody ELSE was nuts, so it didn't matter. No sense fighting with a nutter, ROFL!
What's on the other side
ROFL! There isn't an "other" side - just other coins. They're all one-sided. Like attracts like.
And THAT'S the serial killer attitude. ROFL! "It's simple, you're stupid and deserve to be embarrassed so I can feel better about myself.". Good one! EXCELLENT illustration of my point - i.e. nice "sweater". Didn't draw any actual blood so it must be OK, eh? Pfft.
Indiana has been sewed up by Big Tobacco for they are the only ones who can meet the new requirements for ejuice manufacturing and i wouldnt put it past them to include something in the juice to make them more addicting.
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