Are you a Total Vaper or a Dual User ?

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DavidOck

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I still smoke cigs and enjoy a pipe and pipe tobacco now and then.If I become a total vaper I'm going total VG based from ecblends.com propylene glycol effects kidneys some say.Also ecblends.com is aemsa.org certified.Ecblends offers extra flavoring options for 100% VG Based Vape Juice.

You can, of course, vape "max" VG, but....

Ethylene Glycol and Propylene Glycol Toxicity: What is Propylene Glycol | ATSDR - Environmental Medicine & Environmental Health Education - CSEM

Lack of Renal Effects

Propylene glycol has not been associated with nephrotoxicity caused by calcium oxalate in humans. Unlike ethylene glycol, propylene glycol is not metabolized to oxalic acid, so calcium oxalate is not deposited in the kidneys (Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry 1997).
 

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Funny to read.... it seems to be so simple.
I`m a dual Smoker ... want to quit.... but harder than it seems.
My wife did it in couple of days.
I m working on it since a year. But i don t care. Every cigarette wich hasn't been smoked is a plus.
Exactly! :)
 

SteveS45

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Funny to read.... it seems to be so simple.
I`m a dual Smoker ... want to quit.... but harder than it seems.
My wife did it in couple of days.
I m working on it since a year. But i don t care. Every cigarette wich hasn't been smoked is a plus.

My Sweetie was using Cig-A-Likes for over two years before I decided one morning that I was going to join the ranks of former smokers. If it wasn't for the boxes and boxes of cartridges I had built up I don't think I could have done it but I did and just passed the 2 year mark of my last killer stick. It sure isn't easy but it can be done and you just have to decide for yourself.

Good Luck and Vape On Safely!
 

BobLynch

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You can, of course, vape "max" VG, but....

Ethylene Glycol and Propylene Glycol Toxicity: What is Propylene Glycol | ATSDR - Environmental Medicine & Environmental Health Education - CSEM

Lack of Renal Effects

Propylene glycol has not been associated with nephrotoxicity caused by calcium oxalate in humans. Unlike ethylene glycol, propylene glycol is not metabolized to oxalic acid, so calcium oxalate is not deposited in the kidneys (Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry 1997).
That's nice to here!
 

DavidOck

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It's real easy to get snookered by the anti-vape zealots, who love to propagate half-truths and even down right lies. Granted, no one is saying vaping is "safe", but the British NHS has, after their research, determined that it's AT LEAST (caps mine) 95% less harmful. No matter how you do your math, that's pretty significant! :lol:

Life is harmful. Best we can do is minimize the harm, but life is still terminal ;)
 

Eekins

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Total vaper here

Wipe is an occasional vaper (only when she gets really bad nic cravings to absolutely avoid analogs)

Brother is a dual user

Sister was a dual user, but since 2 weeks ago has not touched either or

Father was a dual user but he travels alot for work and says the hassle of the e-cigs was too much so he only vapes when hes with me cos I don't allow smoking analogs inside my home
 
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