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Do you mean empty or garbage?

Learning when it's empty and needs to be refilled is a learning curve. Basically, some of the signs are low vapor production (on a charged battery), or a draw that it's very airy. If you get a very airy draw, clean your battery threads first, it is still airier than normal, you probably need to refill. If it tastes really burnt (like burnt plastic), you've gone too far, best thing is to keep it topped off.

As far as when the carto is junk. If the draw becomes too tight. (check to make sure the air holes on the battery are not clogged first). Also, severe change in favor, usually nasty, or little to no vapor production with a charged battery. If you burn one, it's junk. That taste never goes away. Fortunately, the SI cartos don't burn as easily because of their design, so you have to vape it dry to get to that point


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Hmm - thanks for asking that(!) (??? Who was that???) and thanks for the answer! I was sort of wondering that too.
I have a few (refilled ??? many times!) that I tossed a couple weeks ago after attempting to "wash" didn't seem to make any difference. BTW - I tried the baby med syringe method - couldn't really get carto on - mashed a little of the carto cover on one when REALLY tried to get onto syringe.

I know I am, but I vape 3-6mg nic so that I can. I love the taste, love my volt, and have dropped 12 pounds since I vape for my sweet tooth


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Great huh!!!?!!! I lost some weight too! Lower nic and used "my all day sucker"!

My latest blanks (reg-sized, black) are individually wrapped, as well. Haven't tried any of them, yet. I buy ahead and use a FIFO system for my supplies. HAS ANYONE ELSE TRIED THESE? I really hope they aren't different from what we've all been using for the past 2 years or so. (Sorry, K., but I'm hoping you're the only one having trouble:D)

I got my 'first time ordering' XL blanks - they were individually wrapped. Drip tips came in a blister package - funny taste so they are now soaking overnight (Thank You Outlaw!) along with a clearo and 2 other brand XL carto's ...

2 of 3 bottles of nicquid were in boxes ... that was new to me ...

Also had a surprise today ... Discovered one really airy clearo had 2 cracks! Found some 2 step all plastics glue in local hardware store. We shall see if it worked later this evening. I didn't empty it - just wiped with alcohol and "did it".

I have discovered at least 2 new fruit flavors and one new occasional flavor. Now I can taste my favorite "starter" blend again! BlueBerry & Cool Melon are great! Turtle Cheesecake - not so much! LOL - I love the real stuff! The other is Marashino. That one I automatically mixed 50/50 w/ Desert Joe. That is plenty for me! Didn't think I would like tobacco flavors but RY4 I like - even w/o menthol!

Thank You (AweSum) and others for the comments on the CE3's. I have colored replacement tops for carto's - I assume (oh-oh) they are interchangeable with the CE3 tops ... Think I'm going to order some. I have all my flavors pretty well color coded now - just need to be able to implement a few more which will require some fresh supplies!

Imagine - (or anyone) True: The SI carto's work best with a heavier pg blend??? Would 50/50 'clog' 'em up?
Thanks all - sorry about the novel.

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Imagine; question for you...I know we buy juice by strengh so ? is how much nig are we are we getting in each ce3 clearomizer. I use the 18ml. does that mean 18 nic per ml? I know you use mainly the 70/30 PG/VG on most flavors. Is it 70% PG and 30%vg? Going to dr tomorrow morning and want to sound like I know what I am talking about. lol I don't inhale with e-cig like I did with analogs. In other words I inhale until I feel it on throat then exhale. Not like the big inhale swallow feel it in the lungs for a drag. So in your opinion how much nic accually goes into the lungs? thanks so much

I am new so i just say what have learned, 70/30 PG/VG is 70% pg, 30% vg .... i dont know what percentage SI juice is, but i see 70% PG / 30% VG more often so it possible u swapped em. Yes i 18mg means 18mg per ML & a ce3 has about 1.5ml .. the ce3 has 27mg. The effect of the 27mg is no where near that simple ... how much goes in ur bloodstream is very hard to even get in the ball park, on one hand no one knows because no test have been done under controlled conditions. On the other hand if ur vapin 3.0 ml/day at 18mg & its getting u more light headed than when u smoked ur getting more nicotine common sense says. if ur getting irritable & lose focus and what ever u happens when u did not smoke before, ur getting less.

I think less vapor is aborbed by ur lungs and more through ur nose, mouth and larger bronciale tubes. Smoke has smaller particles which can be absorbed more easily in the aveole (sp? - small sacks at the end of ur lungs) vapor has larger particles in in PG/VG solution ... Reading between the lines on others post but i think also nicotine absorbed my not be linear with concetration also ... (u may absorb less than half as much with 9mg solution vs a 18mg solution). ... i dont think anyone will give u an answer of what its eqivelents in analogs or how much goes in ur lungs, because they dont know. But u are missing all the chemicals tars Carbon Monoxide. Not to mention other stuff that addicts u also thats in cigarette smoke. I saw 30 to 50% absorbed somewhere but it just depends ... i am new, but i know with smoking if u dont inhale a lot less is absorbed ... with vapin i am not sure inhaling matters as much as far a absorption ... me i would listen my body when vapin, i think ur body will tell u long before things got dangerous.

Imagine probably has something better to tell ur doctor than me, i dont know .... to me Smoke and all that other stuff is what makes cigarettes so dangerous.
 
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Yay SI!!!
Thank You (AweSum) and others for the comments on the CE3's. I have colored replacement tops for carto's - I assume (oh-oh) they are interchangeable with the CE3 tops ... Think I'm going to order some. I have all my flavors pretty well color coded now - just need to be able to implement a few more which will require some fresh supplies!

Imagine - (or anyone) True: The SI carto's work best with a heavier pg blend??? Would 50/50 'clog' 'em up?
Thanks all - sorry about the novel.

Vape on!!!

The color tips will fit the CE3s with no problem. I use them to color code my CE3s based on the resistance of the coils using the IEEE standard resistor color code, well sort of anyway.

VG liquids are more difficult for a carto to "wick", and can cause problems ina CE3 as well, simply because they are so thick compared to PG or PG/VG mixed. You might find it advantageous to "thin" the VG liquids a tiny, tiny bit by using some distilled water, or vodka/grain alcohol, byt addin a drop or two at a time until it thins down just a little. That will be a trial and error process and depends on the thickness of the VG liquid.
 

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I am new so i just say what have learned, 70/30 PG/VG is 70% pg, 30% vg .... i dont know what SI is, but i see 70% PG / 30% VG more often so it possible u swapped em. Yes i 18mg means 18mg per ML & a ce3 has about 1.5ml .. the ce3 has 27mg. The effect of the 27mg is no where near that simple ... how much goes in ur bloodstream is very hard to even get in the ball park, on one hand no one knows because no test have been done under controlled conditions. On the other hand if ur vapin 3.0 ml/day at 18mg & its getting u more light headed than when u smoked ur getting more nicotine common sense says. if ur getting irritable & lose focus and what ever u happens when u did not smoke before, ur getting less.

I think less vapor is aborbed by ur lungs and more through ur nose, mouth and larger bronciale tubes. Smoke has smaller particles which can be absorbed more easily in the aveole (sp? - small sacks at the end of ur lungs) vapor has larger particles in in PG?VG solution ... Reading between the lines on others post but i think also nicotine absorbed my not be linear with concetration also ... (u may absorb less than half as much with 9mg solution vs a 18mg solution). ... i dont think anyone will give u an answer of what its eqivelents in analogs or how much goes in ur lungs, because they dont know. But u are missing all the chemicals tars Carbon Monoxide. Not to mention other stuff that addicts u also thats in cigarette smoke. I saw 30 to 50% absorbed somewhere but it just depends ... i am new, but i know with smoking if u dont inhale a lot less is absorbed ... with vapin i am not sure inhaling matters as much as far a absorption ... me i would listen my body when vapin, i think ur body will tell u long before things got dangerous.

Imagine probably has something better to tell ur doctor than me, i dont know .... to me Smoke and all that other stuff is what makes cigarettes so dangerous.

Nicotine can be absorbed by the skin so if you get some liquid on yourself it's a good idea to wash immediately with lots of water, especially for a spill. The major absorbtion from vaping or smoking is through the linings of the mouth and nasal passages, mucous membranes. Keep in mind that the nicotine in a tobacco cigarette is absorbed more readily because it is "enhanced" by other chemicals added for that express purpose. Given that the liquid in a e-cig is the result of far, far fewer chemicals, say probably no more than ten and definitely well under one hundred, versus a tobacco cigarette with a content well into the thousands, it's hard to see how vaping can be as dangerous as smoking. Again, my opinion, worth what you pay for it and I don't even play a doctor on TV and am not a chemical engineer.
 
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VG tends to be thicker and therefore not wick as well causing dry hits... higher pg is usually better for the cartos 50/50 and up... that's not to say some vendors have thinner VG mixes that can work well.

Yay SI!!!
Hmm - thanks for asking that(!) (??? Who was that???) and thanks for the answer! I was sort of wondering that too.
I have a few (refilled ??? many times!) that I tossed a couple weeks ago after attempting to "wash" didn't seem to make any difference. BTW - I tried the baby med syringe method - couldn't really get carto on - mashed a little of the carto cover on one when REALLY tried to get onto syringe.

Great huh!!!?!!! I lost some weight too! Lower nic and used "my all day sucker"!



I got my 'first time ordering' XL blanks - they were individually wrapped. Drip tips came in a blister package - funny taste so they are now soaking overnight (Thank You Outlaw!) along with a clearo and 2 other brand XL carto's ...

2 of 3 bottles of nicquid were in boxes ... that was new to me ...

Also had a surprise today ... Discovered one really airy clearo had 2 cracks! Found some 2 step all plastics glue in local hardware store. We shall see if it worked later this evening. I didn't empty it - just wiped with alcohol and "did it".

I have discovered at least 2 new fruit flavors and one new occasional flavor. Now I can taste my favorite "starter" blend again! BlueBerry & Cool Melon are great! Turtle Cheesecake - not so much! LOL - I love the real stuff! The other is Marashino. That one I automatically mixed 50/50 w/ Desert Joe. That is plenty for me! Didn't think I would like tobacco flavors but RY4 I like - even w/o menthol!

Thank You (AweSum) and others for the comments on the CE3's. I have colored replacement tops for carto's - I assume (oh-oh) they are interchangeable with the CE3 tops ... Think I'm going to order some. I have all my flavors pretty well color coded now - just need to be able to implement a few more which will require some fresh supplies!

Imagine - (or anyone) True: The SI carto's work best with a heavier pg blend??? Would 50/50 'clog' 'em up?
Thanks all - sorry about the novel.

Vape on!!!
 
The color tips will fit the CE3s with no problem. I use them to color code my CE3s based on the resistance of the coils using the IEEE standard resistor color code, well sort of anyway.

VG liquids are more difficult for a carto to "wick", and can cause problems ina CE3 as well, simply because they are so thick compared to PG or PG/VG mixed. You might find it advantageous to "thin" the VG liquids a tiny, tiny bit by using some distilled water, or vodka/grain alcohol, byt addin a drop or two at a time until it thins down just a little. That will be a trial and error process and depends on the thickness of the VG liquid.
Ok - Thanks again - soooo muchly! :) Perhaps too much VG was the problem today .... :confused:
 

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Ok - Thanks again - soooo muchly! :) Perhaps too much VG was the problem today .... :confused:

That doesn't only apply to SI cartos. All cartos have the same idea behind them. Thicker juices will clog all cartos faster, no matter what company makes them. Dark juices will also clog them faster


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Ok - sorta figured that would be the case ...

Ok - AweSum saw when the new shipment of CE3's would be in... Looks like I missed it.

Could someone perhaps up-date the status on them?

I was so excited to try some new flavors. Well - there is another one in the oh boy - not for me category!
Still surprised when I tried a Cherry (sampler)! I could only handle little hits from time to time of a Cherry mixed with Desert Joe - but really liked the Cherry sampler? Who woulda thunk it?!

I've found I LOVE BluBerry! OMGosh! That is my favorite - it could be an all day vape too!

Today was a real test - drove a handicapped friend of my brother to a couple of specialists 1.5 hours from home. Nervous driving a strange vehicle to start with. So many "blind" spots in a van! Making sure there was enough room alongside for the chair lift ... I hardly vaped that entire trip! It didn't bother me! Boy if I'd still been on analogs ...
whole nudder story! :D
 

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Ok - sorta figured that would be the case ...

Ok - AweSum saw when the new shipment of CE3's would be in... Looks like I missed it.

Could someone perhaps up-date the status on them?

I was so excited to try some new flavors. Well - there is another one in the oh boy - not for me category!
Still surprised when I tried a Cherry (sampler)! I could only handle little hits from time to time of a Cherry mixed with Desert Joe - but really liked the Cherry sampler? Who woulda thunk it?!

I've found I LOVE BluBerry! OMGosh! That is my favorite - it could be an all day vape too!

Today was a real test - drove a handicapped friend of my brother to a couple of specialists 1.5 hours from home. Nervous driving a strange vehicle to start with. So many "blind" spots in a van! Making sure there was enough room alongside for the chair lift ... I hardly vaped that entire trip! It didn't bother me! Boy if I'd still been on analogs ...
whole nudder story! :D

Last I saw, imagine said they were shipping Thursday and should be in early next week


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by how many batts you go through I would say you were a packish a day smoker...and it is normal for that :p

I was a pack a day smoker as well and I will go through 2 1/2 78mm batts a day.

Hi digger, i got the 2 78m bat starter kit & mid sized X2 when i started .... i liked my X2 so much i ordered a second one so u wont regret it.

i like my 78mm's too tho, but i knew i was getting one for the pic. I figure an extra one good for emergency's & for me its nice to have lots of juices on diff battarys ! Lol i used to failure analysis on Aircraft stuff, so backups are all ways good to have & thats how they get reliability rates of one in millions.... Also i figured if u like and use the battary, it is never gonna be waste coz all have consumable life. (vs u order juice & dont like it or get so & so's super mega tank mod and it leaks every where, those are waste of money) ... take care and happy vaps.

Imagine .......... did u go up to 3 bat a day with the new store opening upcoming ;) hope its progressing well :)
 

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ok Noob question and not really SI related really but i like u guys & gals so i will ask ......... i assume none of these juices should be shaken before filling coz no one said too. if they stay mixed (everything is in solution then shaking would only make bubbles)
Nope, you have to shake it, baby! The little molecules in there tend to separate (some are bigger/heavier than others). I've gotten into this habit so much that I shake ALL liquids in ALL bottles now! Thank God I don't drink soda! :laugh:
 

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ok Noob question and not really SI related really but i like u guys & gals so i will ask ......... i assume none of these juices should be shaken before filling coz no one said too. if they stay mixed (everything is in solution then shaking would only make bubbles)


That's actually a good question. I think the juice people should put that somewhere in the description or on the bottle. I didn't shake the juice till around maybe a month after I started.
 

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VG tends to be thicker and therefore not wick as well causing dry hits... higher pg is usually better for the cartos 50/50 and up... that's not to say some vendors have thinner VG mixes that can work well.
Just got some 100vg from a new place. Man this stuff is as thick as molasses. I put it in a ce3. 10 second bubble rise. 7 seconds for it to get above then 3 to go to the top. Needless to say I couldn't use it. Here's hoping I do not ruin more liquid.

All venders are defintely different in thickness. Only found one that does well right from the bottle. Not sure if I have the patience or money to keep looking.
 

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Just got some 100vg from a new place. Man this stuff is as thick as molasses. I put it in a ce3. 10 second bubble rise. 7 seconds for it to get above then 3 to go to the top. Needless to say I couldn't use it. Here's hoping I do not ruin more liquid.

All venders are defintely different in thickness. Only found one that does well right from the bottle. Not sure if I have the patience or money to keep looking.

Try thinning it, slowly and carefully, with either distilled/purified water, vodka or grain alcohol. I had a vanilla that I had to thin to get it working in CE3s. The flavor didn't change and you do end up with more liquid that way :)
 

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.......hmmm i got curious so i did some googling .................. i thought & confirmed solutions (vs mixtures) once dissolved stay dissolved ... like salt water the salt never floats to the top or bottom ... i looked it in a wiki and they say e-juice is a solution, but u never know for sure whats on a wiki when stuff get techinical ..... sometimes the terms homogenous and hetrogenous mixture used. A homogenoous mixture wont separate from gravity alone (solution) and hetrogenious one will (like salad dressing). From what i read so far nic/PG/VG are homogeous ... whether or not the ALL flavors are depends i guess, i know lots are dissolved in the pg or vg but lots and ALL is differnt ... so never hurts shake to be sure, but my only matter sometimes is my guess.


here is a thread on the subject

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/200557-shake-juice.html

Hope it helps
 
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