Attack of the (Kayfun Mini V3) Clones!

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The vacuum is a good thing actually it keeps the atty from leaking.:)
Next time you tear it down tighten jfc all the way then open it and look at how many turns it takes to fully open the holes. Overstuffing the wick can also cause problems.

OK, looks like 2 1/4 turns opens the JFC all the way. That will be my 'setting'

I keep my wick relatively tight in the coil, but thin the tails with a thin sewing pin before the final cutting. Then I cut the wick such that only the tips of the cotton touch the deck. I think that keeps more eliquid in the cotton near the coil; wispy wick ends hold more eliquid.

You might also make sure that the 4 tiny holes on the deck are clearly drilled and not stuffed with wick. Cotton can be touching the holes, but not so tightly stuffed as to block them. Again, if only the tips of the wick are on the deck, the holes are less likely to be blocked completely.

And yes, vacuum is necessary to keep the eliquid in the tank from flowing out.

Got the magnifying glasses out and reviewed the deck. You were right, apparently when I put the positive post back in during one of my cleanings I had the post centered but the insulator was blocking one of the juice holes, almost entirely. I have since learned the paperclip method of securing the positive post.

Went back to my original 2.5mm 28 gauge build and wicked like I knew was right and she is vaping perfect.

Have to say thanks for the help to all that replied. Nice MTL atty.
 

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OK, looks like 2 1/4 turns opens the JFC all the way. That will be my 'setting'



Got the magnifying glasses out and reviewed the deck. You were right, apparently when I put the positive post back in during one of my cleanings I had the post centered but the insulator was blocking one of the juice holes, almost entirely. I have since learned the paperclip method of securing the positive post.

Went back to my original 2.5mm 28 gauge build and wicked like I knew was right and she is vaping perfect.

Have to say thanks for the help to all that replied. Nice MTL atty.
Another satisfied customer!:)
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I cant , for the life of me, get my KF V3 Plus 1.5 (aka the Fatty) to deliver good flavour…my coil is 30G spaced, 5 wraps at 1.5ohm, wattage is 12watts….coil is around 2mm from the air hole….wick is saturated, not blocking the juice holes at the bottom of the well and air bubbles suggest proper wicking and flow.

My airflow is fully closed off and then opened just the bare minimum…can increased airflow increase flavour? I don't want to unscrew the bottom with a full tank and tinker since it might break the vacuum.
 

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I cant , for the life of me, get my KF V3 Plus 1.5 (aka the Fatty) to deliver good flavour…my coil is 30G spaced, 5 wraps at 1.5ohm, wattage is 12watts….coil is around 2mm from the air hole….wick is saturated, not blocking the juice holes at the bottom of the well and air bubbles suggest proper wicking and flow.

My airflow is fully closed off and then opened just the bare minimum…can increased airflow increase flavour? I don't want to unscrew the bottom with a full tank and tinker since it might break the vacuum.
According to Steam Engine 5 wraps of 30 ga. Kanthal, 2.5 mm ID comes in at around 1.5 ohm, but at 12 watts the heat flux is kinda up there. Have you tried maybe 7-8 watts? That would keep the heat flux between 150-200.

If you get more flavor at 7-8 watts but not enough vapor for you, I would try going with a thicker wire - maybe 28-29 gauge - with more wraps.

Just a thought.
 

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I cant , for the life of me, get my KF V3 Plus 1.5 (aka the Fatty) to deliver good flavour…my coil is 30G spaced, 5 wraps at 1.5ohm, wattage is 12watts….coil is around 2mm from the air hole….wick is saturated, not blocking the juice holes at the bottom of the well and air bubbles suggest proper wicking and flow.

My airflow is fully closed off and then opened just the bare minimum…can increased airflow increase flavour? I don't want to unscrew the bottom with a full tank and tinker since it might break the vacuum.
I take a full tank apart all the time, like when I want to change the wick. Just turn it upside down and remove the deck. When you reinstall the deck, which is empty, with a fresh wick it will absorb some juice and the vacuum will re-establish itself.
 

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Yea ive rewicked with a half tank but removing the base and tnkering with airflow while the tank has juice might mess with the vacuum....since the tank wont be upside down.

Btw is there some sort of acceptable heat flux range to aim for?

When i take it down to 8 watts i get a very weak anaemic and muted vape.

Also...i use the exact same build and coil placement in my mini v3 and hurricane and tgey are both flavour monsters.
 

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Yea ive rewicked with a half tank but removing the base and tnkering with airflow while the tank has juice might mess with the vacuum....since the tank wont be upside down.

Btw is there some sort of acceptable heat flux range to aim for?

When i take it down to 8 watts i get a very weak anaemic and muted vape.

Also...i use the exact same build and coil placement in my mini v3 and hurricane and tgey are both flavour monsters.

Trust me, if these RTA's have one thing going for them it is their ability to build vacuum. I wouldn't think twice taking the deck out as long as it's upside down.

I thought I read in an earlier post that you have the coil fairly high above the air hole. I tried a bunch of different methods and found the best flavor and vapor is when I have the coil as close to the air hole as I can get it. Ymmv.


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I cant , for the life of me, get my KF V3 Plus 1.5 (aka the Fatty) to deliver good flavour…my coil is 30G spaced, 5 wraps at 1.5ohm, wattage is 12watts….coil is around 2mm from the air hole….wick is saturated, not blocking the juice holes at the bottom of the well and air bubbles suggest proper wicking and flow.

My airflow is fully closed off and then opened just the bare minimum…can increased airflow increase flavour? I don't want to unscrew the bottom with a full tank and tinker since it might break the vacuum.

I have several of these. Usually I go with 28g Kanthal on 9 wraps at 8 watts which gives me the typical (yet delectable) Kayfun flavor I so love. As I explained somewhere else, maybe here? Meh..Im old. Anyway, only thing that ever went side-wise on me was o-rings. Sad thing is, it is a WONDERFUL tank and I'm sorry it's decided to do battle with you. At the point you are at, I would strip that beatch down to the frackin cellular level for a good cleaning. And if that dinna work least I know what makes it tick.:unsure:
 
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Trust me, if these RTA's have one thing going for them it is their ability to build vacuum. I wouldn't think twice taking the deck out as long as it's upside down.

I thought I read in an earlier post that you have the coil fairly high above the air hole. I tried a bunch of different methods and found the best flavor and vapor is when I have the coil as close to the air hole as I can get it. Ymmv.


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I do believe that in my advanced class (Kayfun 101), I did learn that more airflow is often equivalent to less flavor. I agree with the idea of tempting fate, and moving that coil down, lower, just a mm or so over the air flow.


Dashman, when a KF is not working, it's male. Just FYI. ;)
 

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I still use both of mine every day. They have been performing flawlessly. I am thinking of picking up a 5 as well. I have heard good things about the sjmy version.
Get the SMJY kf5. I have one. You tube DJLsb vapes video on it he does a side to side comparison of the org. And SMJY from 3fvape.
 

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I have several of these. Usually I go with 28g Kanthal on 9 wraps at 8 watts which gives me the typical (yet delectable) Kayfun flavor I so love. As I explained somewhere else, maybe here? Meh..Im old. Anyway, only thing that ever went side-wise on me was o-rings. Sad thing is, it is a WONDERFUL tank and I'm sorry it's decided to do battle with you. At the point you are at, I would strip that beatch down to the frackin cellular level for a good cleaning. And if that dinna work least I know what makes it tick.:unsure:

Your settings are very close to what I use…30G, 5 wraps spaced, 1.5 ohms….10 watts.

I have broken this tank down to every last screw and rivet, cleaned it and put on new NB70 orings everywhere…so it is leak proof apart from wicking errors.

Im beginning to think I'll take the coil a bit lower and increase the airflow a tad, and see what happens….always been concerned about taking it too low as I didn't want vaporising juice droplets going down the air hole.

Interestingly enough…I had a melon/mint juice in my Kayfun V3Plus some time back and got good flavour….this time around i have a caramel juice in there and that's where the flavour is lacking….when I try that same caramel juice in my Hurricane clone, it explodes with flavour…and Im using the same coil….altho the Hurricane has a 3.5mm air hole….that's why i thought more airflow = more flavour.
 

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Question? I just received my first Kayfun (the 5) a few weeks ago. (3 mini in the mail now) Been trying to find the best build for flavor experimenting with 26g kanthal and SS316L..also with temp control. .7 -1.2 ohm range. Would like to not sub ohm and rip through juice. I notice that many people use 28-30g. Is that because the build decks were so small before, and using higher ohms for higher nic. content for a cooler vape? I usually use 6 mg but find that there is a lack of throat hit at higher ohms..use 12mg I get the throat hit my an overwhelming taste of nic and loose flavor of the juice I'm using. Would 28g builds really bring more flavor or is it just used for ease of build, or is it just something everyone is just used to using from smaller deck and post sizes from the past? Should I just stick with the 26g I have already and keep experimenting ? Help much appreciated thanks.
 
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When I was getting leaks in my V3 Mini I stripped it down completely to clean and change the o-ring on the 510 post. Now when Ive re-assembled it, the leaks have stopped but I just noticed the 510 post protruding quite a fair bit out of the air hole…..dont recall seeing this prior to disassembly….maybe I tightened it too hard. Does this seem normal?

Also is my coil positioned too high, you think?

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