Attack of the (Kayfun Mini V3) Clones!

[Swampus]

@ricks That's why I went to TemCo $7. 100'... 30g/32g
I actually don't have a clue of what I'm talking bout,
but
I think maybe the heat flx will be closer to what I been using..we'll see

 

[KTMRider]

I tried everything. Didn't find a vacuum leak. No leak of liquid either. Still getting dry hits.



It's a little better with half a tank, but not by that much. I get better flow into the chamber if I turn the AFC extremely tight. It creates stronger suction.

My problem might be the brand of vg I am using. Essential Depot is known for being thicker than others. I thin it down by 5% before use in my mix (75%vg). I might have to thin it down even lower.

Next I will try a thinner juice with the same exact wick to see what happens....

I am beginning to think, this tank is not designed for thicker juices.

Take your deck apart and check the juice holes with a safety pin and flashlight. I'm using 80/20 vg/pg and no issues with juice flow. If you had a vacuum issue, you'd have flooding, not dry hits. It could also be that your wick tails are cut too thin. Mine's pretty thick (rayon) and I have no issues.

 

[OcalaFlGuy]

I am no expert but I listen A LOT and watch A LOT of YouTuber rebuild vids.

I've never heard the bit about Rayon tails needing to be thin and wispy. I have heard that Rayon retracts
when wet. That's one reason I like it, in ease in determining how much to use. As much as you can cram in there.

What I have seen in the vids with the Mini v3 that I like is grasping the edge of the wicking with tweezers
and folding it under in like a U shape while tucking in the deck. I can see how that would wick really well.
Bruce in Ocala, Fl

 

[Exchaner]

That could be it. It appears that the juice holes in the tank section of at least some of the clones are smaller than in the authentic:

Attack of the (Kayfun Mini V3) Clones!

I was hoping someone who uses high vg liquids would pipe in here. I only use 50/50 pg/vg blends.

I have some diamond heads which I can use to enlarge the holes on the deck. The only problem is the holes on the side; kind of hard to get to.

 

[OcalaFlGuy]

I am no expert but I listen A LOT and watch A LOT of YouTuber rebuild vids.

I've never heard the bit about Rayon tails needing to be thin and wispy. I have heard that Rayon retracts when wet. That's one reason I like it, in ease in determining how much to use. As much as you can cram though the coil.

What I have seen in the vids with the Mini v3 that I like is grasping the edge of the wicking with tweezers and folding it under in like a U shape while tucking in the deck. I can see how that would wick really well.
Bruce in Ocala, Fl

 

[Exchaner]

Take your deck apart and check the juice holes with a safety pin and flashlight. I'm using 80/20 vg/pg and no issues with juice flow. If you had a vacuum issue, you'd have flooding, not dry hits. It could also be that your wick tails are cut too thin. Mine's pretty thick (rayon) and I have no issues.

I have checked the juice holes and all four are clear. The tails can handle the juice if I could only get the juice to flow inside the chamber. It refuses to do so unless I increase the suction to the max - by turning the AFC nearly closed.

 

[G-weezy]

The Rayon thread explains it all. Under wick and wire thread.

Rayon Wick - Better Flow, Flavor, Longevity, and Nic Hit!! - Pt.2

 

[Exchaner]

I am no expert but I listen A LOT and watch A LOT of YouTuber rebuild vids.

I've never heard the bit about Rayon tails needing to be thin and wispy. I have heard that Rayon retracts when wet. That's one reason I like it, in ease in determining how much to use. As much as you can cram though the coil.

What I have seen in the vids with the Mini v3 that I like is grasping the edge of the wicking with tweezers and folding it under in like a U shape while tucking in the deck. I can see how that would wick really well.
Bruce in Ocala, Fl

One reason for thinning the tails is to prevent your juice from turning dark too fast. Rayon has a tendency to let burnt juice back into the tank more easily than cotton does.

 

[Jumpin' In...]

One reason for thinning the tails is to prevent your juice from turning dark too fast. Rayon has a tendency to let burnt juice back into the tank more easily than cotton does.

I still think that you should do as KTMrider suggests before you start drilling out the deck or tank. You've got nothing to lose by trying his or any other wicking method. There's no going back once you put a drill to your KM3.

Then again, it's yours to do with as you see fit.

 

[Exchaner]

I still think that you should do as KTMrider suggests before you start drilling out the deck or tank. You've got nothing to lose by trying his or any other wicking method. There's no going back once you put a drill to your KM3.

Then again, it's yours to do with as you see fit.

I think I will take the advice and change the wick to see what happens. Another curl-pit might be the o-ring at the bottom of the deck. Ever since I changed it, the juice flow control became extremely loose - it now turns at the slightest touch. That doesn't seem normal....

 

[Ken B]

Strikes me that better quality O rings would take away a lot of the problems with many devices. Not just the Kayfuns. The ones from FT have always been a little suspect, but have never found reliable quality replacements.

 

[Katya]

Strikes me that better quality O rings would take away a lot of the problems with many devices. Not just the Kayfuns. The ones from FT have always been a little suspect, but have never found reliable quality replacements.

They are being sold separately in Europe, but the shipping is expensive (to the States). Probably to you too!

 

[Katya]

I think I will take the advice and change the wick to see what happens. Another curl-pit might be the o-ring at the bottom of the deck. Ever since I changed it, the juice flow control became extremely loose - it now turns at the slightest touch. That doesn't seem normal....

It doesn't sound right. You should feel some resistance when you open/close your JFC.

We really need better o-rings--and the new and improved deck insulator. BTW, the new authentic Kayfuns are now being shipped with the new deck insulator installed.

 

[Katdarling]

Got the colored glass for my wife's mini from fasttech today, got some coming for me too, but different color of course

Nailz, is that the purple? I like it and hope so, as I ordered one.

My first colored glass(es) were the red and the dark black. I highly DON'T recommend the black. It's nearly like a metal tank, and I could not see the liquid inside at all.

The red? Kwite nice.

I am no expert but I listen A LOT and watch A LOT of YouTuber rebuild vids.

I've never heard the bit about Rayon tails needing to be thin and wispy. I have heard that Rayon retracts
when wet. That's one reason I like it, in ease in determining how much to use. As much as you can cram in there.

What I have seen in the vids with the Mini v3 that I like is grasping the edge of the wicking with tweezers
and folding it under in like a U shape while tucking in the deck. I can see how that would wick really well.
Bruce in Ocala, Fl

Hmmm...... from my brief studies in Rayon-ville, I thought that the tails abstolutely need to be thin and wispy, and a great percentage thinner than the top bits (the Mullet Build).

The plucking in with tweezers in the U-shape was Quorax's method, si?

 

[Ken B]

Yes, Kat, just tried to get some juice concentrate sent here from UK. Ridiculous postage charges with everything.

 

[Sptz]

What

It doesn't sound right. You should feel some resistance when you open/close your JFC.

We really need better o-rings--and the new and improved deck insulator. BTW, the new authentic Kayfuns are now being shipped with the new deck insulator installed.

What's the difference to the current isolator?

 

[Katya]

The plucking in with tweezers in the U-shape was Quorax's method, si?

Very much so. And he's kwite kareless about it--not much trimmin or kuttin. He just folds, lifts and tucks in. Works fine for him. Or so he says.

Honestly, I experimented with rayon a while ago and just used it as I would cotton, just packed it tighter, as it collapses when wet, while cotton expands. That's all I know on the subject.

The Kats come out at night. Howdy, doll!

 

[G-weezy]

The new insulator has a step on both sides to hold the center post and not move and hit the cup where the wicks go.

 

[Ken B]

The new insulator has a step on both sides to hold the center post and not move and hit the cup where the wicks go.

Curious that with all the testing of prototypes that we assume they must have done on the original, that they didn't experience and rectify the centre post moving problem before final release.

 

[Katya]

What


What's the difference to the current isolator?

It isolates that blasted moving pos bloc plate and keeps it in place, thus preventing shorts. It was a bad design on part of SM and they quickly remedied it.

Here it is--in a new KMv3 (pictures stolen from that other thread and used without permission )

They can also be purchased separately: