Attack of the (Kayfun Mini V3) Clones!

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Katya

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1st Order after discount was >$30 and I selected e-packet in the shipping options. Shipped today, as one item turned out to be out of stock, even though it said "ship next day" when I ordered. So it could be an update problem. I'll check again tomorrow.

Second order was <$20, and I paid a small amount ($1.10?) for e-packet. And it's being packaged - so as it turned out I might have been better off just keeping everything together in one order. Oh well, stuff happens. :)

Thanks for the response - both of you!

Give them a day--I'm sure they are swamped. I always place just one order and they ship when they ship. I don't look at their ETA dates--they are often wrong, anyway. Anything above $20 is shipped free with a tracking number (either e-packet or just first class USPS). Under 20 you'll have to pay a little extra IF you want a tracking number.
 

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How long ago was the order? It'll take awhile before anything changes for China. Maybe a couple days to be accepted into China. Then the next update be a week or so when it arrives in the US.

I ordered during the May 1 sale, maybe 2 hours in. This is my first FT order, so maybe I'm just spoiled by how USPS tracking operates domestically. As I said, right now when I click the tracking number I go to a USPS page that has no information and has a place to enter tracking numbers.
 

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Give them a day--I'm sure they are swamped. I always place just one order and they ship when they ship. I don't look at their ETA dates--they are often wrong, anyway. Anything above $20 is shipped free with a tracking number (either e-packet or just first class USPS). Under 20 you'll have to pay a little extra IF you want a tracking number.
K. Thanks. :).
 
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I ordered during the May 1 sale, maybe 2 hours in. This is my first FT order, so maybe I'm just spoiled by how USPS tracking operates domestically. As I said, right now when I click the tracking number I go to a USPS page that has no information and has a place to enter tracking numbers.

Considering how many orders FT must have taken in the sale, I think you are doing very well to get any movement already. I do the same as Katya. Place the order and it is sent when it is ready. They are very efficient normally, although mail to this part of the world is very slow for some reason. Your tracking will not be much good for a week or so, but it will get there.
 

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I ordered during the May 1 sale, maybe 2 hours in. This is my first FT order, so maybe I'm just spoiled by how USPS tracking operates domestically. As I said, right now when I click the tracking number I go to a USPS page that has no information and has a place to enter tracking numbers.
Once your order ships you will be notified. I ordered the same day.
 
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When you say "contact coils" though, aren't you referring to "tensioned" micro/macro/mega coils? Do the benefits of the "insulating layer" also apply to non-tensioned micro/macro/mega coils such as those made with a Kuro Coil or Coil Master jigs - or for that matter to spaced coils?

I always thought that whole discussion was centered around tensioned coils, hence my inquiries.

Yeah jump. Sorry I missed your post lost night. You can pulse a spaced coil to oxidation, yes. It takes longer.

Tensioned micro (contact) coils (t.m.c.'s) work because they are strained into the wind. This imparts (heat) energy into the wire reordering the crystalline structure of the metal adding rigidity (so less pliability or springiness). It's stable in its shape. Better still it invokes a sort of metal memory and the wind wants to be a coil forever. As long as more energy is not put into the wind than was used to create it (as by over-heating in dry burn or torching). Because a strained wire was formed pulling in on itself it wants to keep on pulling in that direction. So its natural state is inward.

In contrast an open (spaced) wind wants to always return to being that spaced wind. If erratic and distorted it will be that. A t.m.c. as it was wound as tightly together as nature allows always wants to return to that state of natural equilibrium, it's rest or unstrained state. That is, the coil you created in the first place. Again, as long as no more force or heat is applied than was used to make it. Start fiddling with it carelessly and it'll distort just as well as any other. The other way of making things in metal is called forming. Or in people terms — bendin' it. That's what coilers do.

Don't recommend coilers for spaced coils either. It's impractical unless you have and are willing to use calipers to gauge spacing. It's different in every wind. And without that, you can't reasonably predict resistance. Shopping for the great fit in your vape, the wind that works means finding that Ω-point, and…being able to get to it again. Even with large gauge wire which tends to form easier the wind will vary in spacing, turn-Ø and strain. All reasons that vary the final resistance and the outcome in your vape.

Because of the tight symmetry and optimal contact in a t.m.c. electrical flow is optimized and the wire heats as evenly as nature permits. This is what in my experience yields optimal oxidation of Kanthal…and the important part here…quickly. Which if we're trying to get to that vape and nail it every time that's what we need. Consistency. Why I advocate this system particularly for new vapers. So they can see what the real potential is vaping from the jump. AND…be able to duplicate it.

Really don't much care what folks wind or prefer. Go cray cray on wire myself. But we benefit from a baseline. Something you can make every time and be able to count on for comparison. Otherwise, how do ya know? Really, what's best for you? Looks good? Or, works good? Every coil works. Every wind has (unbalanced) strain. But good to me means, being able to do it twice in practical terms. The way to the latter is managing the strain to our advantage.

All the luck jump. Hail us if need be and I'll show you "sticky".

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CASAA: FDA Deeming Regulations: Release and Next Steps

Per CASAA:

"The most important thing you can do is to make a call, write, or send an email to your Representative and urge them to cosponsor and support HR 2058. If there is one thing that has to be done, this is it. Encourage your family members, friends, everyone who has supported your journey to participate."
 

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CASAA: FDA Deeming Regulations: Release and Next Steps

Per CASAA:

"The most important thing you can do is to make a call, write, or send an email to your Representative and urge them to cosponsor and support HR 2058. If there is one thing that has to be done, this is it. Encourage your family members, friends, everyone who has supported your journey to participate."

Let me put it another way quite not as politely…if everyone on this thread and elsewhere in vaping fails to involve our fellow Americans to help stop our government, they will succeed in setting a dangerous precedent of justified authority to manage our health by controlling our behavior. If they have to trash an entire industry to accomplish it, they will. I hesitate to think we may call this America then.

Insist your congressional representative rescind the FDA's presumptive preemption of a deeming authority. Vaping is not tobacco combustion. Never has been. Never will be, no matter how they twist our language to their purposes.

Good luck all. :(
 

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Let me put it another way quite not as politely…if everyone on this thread and elsewhere in vaping fails to involve our fellow Americans to help stop our government, they will succeed in setting a dangerous precedent of justified authority to manage our health by controlling our behavior. If they have to trash an entire industry to accomplish it, they will. I hesitate to think we may call this America then.


Good luck all. :(

Certainly, in the UK, we have had it much easier as:-
1.- We only have to deal with one Central Government, not Federal and individual States, and
2. We have strong Medical fraternity interest in Vaping to back up our cause, with actual EVIDENCE rather than $s.

Having said that, we do also have the EU poking their nose in, trying to make life difficult as possible with such insane regulations coming in this month.

We have to hope that common sense prevails, but somehow, I doubt it.
 

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Heat flux is a good thing, just trust me. ;) It's the measure of thermal output. If you look at your coil Steam Engine calculator, you'll find a little icon (to the right of the screen) that shows you your heat flux values. You want your coil to be just right--not too hot and not too cool. Like I said, I like mine green, 150-200 or so. :lol:
I like it! Changed my build last night, went up a bit in Ohms. Used the calculator to get a similar heat flux (150-160), plugged the watts into my mod and the vape was just right. Close to 200 I start tasting scorching.

Good stuff, thanks!
 

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Heat Flux is the reason I ordered some 30 and 32 g 316Lss to play with.. big difference between 28g and 32g ss .. with-out changing voltage/watts..
Thinking 29g kanthal will be next I try, if the SS doesn't work out..
To me the KM3's work well in the 1.4 to 1.6 ohm range (IMO)..
 

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Heat Flux is the reason I ordered some 30 and 32 g 316Lss to play with.. big difference between 28g and 32g ss .. with-out changing voltage/watts..
Thinking 29g kanthal will be next I try, if the SS doesn't work out..
To me the KM3's work well in the 1.4 to 1.6 ohm range (IMO)..
Let us know how the 30 SS 316L works. I haven't given the 28 ga. SS316L I have a fair shot yet in TC, but I will once my FT order gets in. 26 ga SS is probably too big for me; the coils get too large. Think I wasted my $ on that, but I'll eventually try that too.

28 ga. Kanthal, 2.5 mm I.D. is working well for me at ~1.4 Ohm. Kind of eats juice, tho.
 
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