Well I like my Ehpro Kayfuns. I have been buying one every other week because I am afraid they are going to stop making them. I have no desire for juice control and all the other stuff with the new one.
Attack of the (Kayfun v4) Clones!
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Just like the SqR right? Oh wait....
The SqR isn't even as complicated as the K4, mechanically speaking. Yet they had huge difficulties getting that one to work right. They did a great job on some of the clones in terms of overall build, but they did a terrible job in terms of actually WORKING consistently. Spotty results. Due to poor tolerances, or poor material choices. Some of them took shortcuts by putting a glued plastic tank inside rather than an O Ringed glass tank. Some of them used glass but the O Ring were way out of tolerances and cracked the glass from too much pressure.
I'm not saying that making an atty is more complicated than copying a Rolex. But watches are simple devices that have been around for centuries. They don't need to clone the high precision watch movement to get the thing working. They can use much simpler means to get a working watch without copying the intricate movement on a Swiss watch. On an atty, they can't take those kinds of shortcuts. They have to get the tolerances in line with the authentic, especially on a complicated tank system that relies on air pressure, tight seals, and moving parts.
Millah, yeah I would have to agree. I bought a decent number of kayfun clones like a year ago and I have quit using them all. The hard thing is that if an o-ring doesn't fit right, you can't see in there to see what isn't fitting. And now a year later, you can buy the same thing but better, more airflow and not a clone for $40.
If you can measure the parts that are being replicated properly, make them on a decent machine using good materials - you'll get a very decent copy.
When the first clones appeared, the finish was always 'off' as were the tolerances on a lot of the parts - a couple of years later and I've seen clones that are indistinguishable from the originals in fit and finish. Most of these clones will probably be just as good as the original Kayfun V4.
I have to question if the 314 stainless from China is "real spec" 314 stainless, but, then, hell - maybe the US "authentic" machinists are getting their stainless from China! Who the hell knows? There is no "chain of custody". Any can claim anything. ARRRGGHHHH!
What's 314? There is 304 (medical grade) and 316 (marine grade). I've never seen any other grades used for attys.q
China does largely control the global steel market.
China does largely control the global steel market.
I guess you didn't know that China's economy isn't identical to ours. Crazy right.
Did you know in some countries they don't even speak English and love Jesus?
Damn. For 1/4" the cost you can get two of these clones. Geez. If those authentics don't get back in stock soon I might have to join the dark side.
Nope. Most medical equipment is 304. Some surgical equipment is made from 316. Sometimes marine grade is listed as 316 and sometimes 316L. Its less likely to develop surface rust from exposure to salt water.
So is everyone just buying the FT clones?
Has anyone seen a Tobeco/HCigar/Infinite clone yet?
Has anyone seen a Tobeco/HCigar/Infinite clone yet?
I ordered a Tobeco clone via a reddit group buy for about $28. It's probably going to be another few weeks before I have it in hand though.
There are plenty of listing for Tobeco on ebay many below $30.
Just wait for a month and you will be able to buy ehpro or infinity clones which will look and perform like the original. Personally I will wait for the next Lite version of K4 then will wait for a quality clone of it.
I ordered one just because I'm impatient
I will probably pick up an EHPro version if/when they are available.Funny I actually came to post nevermind you got that right lol
Sweet-Vapes.com has the EHPro on their "Coming Soon" section (Coming Soon) and I thought I seen pre-orders for the EHPro at some others.
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