I use 2.5mm. I love the KF4 smoothness, that's why I am wasting so much time with this (and also boring you [emoji23]). Can you take a photo of your build please?What "ID" is your coil? I use 3mm screwdriver to wrap mine, 7 coils. I wrap open or closed, works about the same. No gurgle. Been using rayon for over a month in my 4 active KF V4 builds with identical results. Hate to hear someone having trouble until they hit their sweet spot. Love my KF V4's.Been there, these people will get you straightened out.