Attack of the (Kayfun v4) Clones!

[NeuReleases]

I'm just saying, those flat spots let out a realistically insignificant amount of air, especially considering that some air can escape through the threading regardless of flat spots while screwing down (this is the reason virtually all threading is protected by an o-ring, if the threads were truly air tight then o-rings would not be necessary). I have the tobeco clone so it isn't me defending ehpro, but the amount of air displaced by that little top nut is next to nothing. Certainly nothing even close to enough to over pressurize the tank to the point of leaking with juice control locked, and as soon as the JC is opened back up after filling that minimal amount of pressure will be equalized. Really if you were super concerned about it though you could sand those flat spots into the top nut in like 5 mins, or just buy a replacement one with them for $1.50 off fasttech.

Certainly no reason to panic for those that have the ehpro clone.

 

[Jibninjas]

How much cotton? Try a bit less. Also raise the coil about 1.5mm to 2mm above the air hole.

What type of juice? I'm using 50-75% VG on a similar coil (rayon wicks) and it's very smooth for me.

I will try raising the coil. I don't think I could put any less cotton. And I believe it is 80% pg, it's from a local shop.

Anyone else ever had the loud popping/crackling?

 

[dwcraig1]

I'm just saying, those flat spots let out a realistically insignificant amount of air, especially considering that some air can escape through the threading regardless of flat spots while screwing down (this is the reason virtually all threading is protected by an o-ring, if the threads were truly air tight then o-rings would not be necessary). I have the tobeco clone so it isn't me defending ehpro, but the amount of air displaced by that little top nut is next to nothing. Certainly nothing even close to enough to over pressurize the tank to the point of leaking with juice control locked, and as soon as the JC is opened back up after filling that minimal amount of pressure will be equalized. Really if you were super concerned about it though you could sand those flat spots into the top nut in like 5 mins, or just buy a replacement one with them for $1.50 off fasttech.

Certainly no reason to panic for those that have the ehpro clone.

I must disagree,and agree, I feel it's quite an important feature, but, it would be next to no problem to add them to the EHPro, at least for me. One of mine from FT has them only half as deep as my other FT one, I just haven't got around to fixing it as yet. Thinking about doing it to other atties.

 

[AnsonJames]

Not had any issues with the lack of flat spots on the particular version I have, not so far anyway.
Here's a not so quick fix as you'll have to wait three weeks to get it;

https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10011913/2040606-replacement-top-nut-for-kayfun-v4

I'm assuming this will fit pretty much every clone - not guaranteed of course.

 

[KTMRider]

I must disagree,and agree, I feel it's quite an important feature, but, it would be next to no problem to add them to the EHPro, at least for me. One of mine from FT has them only half as deep as my other FT one, I just haven't got around to fixing it as yet. Thinking about doing it to other atties.

Exactly. It's not a problem for some of us that are handy and have the tools to make the modifications but for 50-100% more, it's not worth it. There are other clones that are cheaper and done right, namely Tobeco.

Not had any issues with the lack of flat spots on the particular version I have, not so far anyway.
Here's a not so quick fix as you'll have to wait three weeks to get it;

https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10011913/2040606-replacement-top-nut-for-kayfun-v4

I'm assuming this will fit pretty much every clone - not guaranteed of course.

Not if you want the black version.

 

[roxynoodle]

Not had any issues with the lack of flat spots on the particular version I have, not so far anyway.
Here's a not so quick fix as you'll have to wait three weeks to get it;

https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10011913/2040606-replacement-top-nut-for-kayfun-v4

I'm assuming this will fit pretty much every clone - not guaranteed of course.

Yeah, but its not black, lol! If I sanded in the flats, i'd be worried about messing up the threads I think. I'll have to think about it. I have to fill through the chimney on the one I have now.

 

[KTMRider]

Usually, they cut the flats before threading. If you grind down the flats after, you'll need to chase the threads and remove the burs. Not hard but you need specific tools for it and probably not worth it.

The work around w/o flats would be to fill, screw the top cap on and then turn it upside down before opening the juice channel. If you over fill the tank, turning it upside down probably won't help.

I understand some people like Ehpro but they didn't do their homework with this one. Their KFL+ v2 is arguably the best KFL+ clone (some say even better than the authentic) but their v4 isn't their best work. And at the price premium, it's definitely not worth it.

 

[Raguvian]

I've put a few tanks through the FT "A" version and it's working well so far. No more leaks (knock on wood). I put 3 wraps of dental floss under #16. At some point in the future I will get the correct sized o ring for it. Other than that, it's just a matter of learning how it works. I always tilt the entire thing upside down when opening and closing the JC and haven't had any problems.

The flavor is pretty muted to me, though. I definitely am not getting any dry hits, but there's not as much flavor as I'm used to. I'm not sure if it's just my build/wicking, or if it's because this is my first tank and I've become too used to RDAs.

I think Artemus shipped the Tobeco one out. Any problems I should look out for on that one? Does it by any chance come with the correct sized #16 o ring, and does it come with extras I can put on the FT version?

 

[athousandyears]

Everything seems to be correct on my Tobeco but it didn't come with any extras.

 

[Raguvian]

Everything seems to be correct on my Tobeco but it didn't come with any extras.

Well, that's both good and bad I suppose. They have the same size o rings as the FT clone, right (other than the #16 one)?

If that's the case, I will probably just order a couple complete sets of orings online for $10 shipped or so.

 

[CaliGrower]

i buy clones and authentics ( as most know)

i have two authentic kayfun V4 i purchased at almost 200 a pop, and an el-cheapo ebay clone, and i had to put the clone on a specific mod and leave it as its virtually impossible to tell the difference in them. 1:1 quality, threads are butter, everythings interchangable. chinas getting alot better, i have to say!.....pisser is that how ya gonna tell if the one your buying isnt a clone now?..... quality this goods gonna put the modders completely under and out of business....

and on a side note, no leaks no nothing from the clone or the authentics and the clouds from both are off the hook

 

[hoosier83]

Using 28g kanthal wire at 1.4ohms around a 3/32 drill bit. Koh gen do for the cotton. It is just slightly above the air hole.

Mine does same thing with almost identical build. It comes and goes more often now but still does it

 

[2legsshrt]

I will try raising the coil. I don't think I could put any less cotton. And I believe it is 80% pg, it's from a local shop.

Anyone else ever had the loud popping/crackling?

I have an original and it will pop a little after I wash it out to rewick because when you blow it out there is usually a small amount of water left but it stops shortly.

 

[2legsshrt]

OK any place in the states to get the Tobecco??? Nevermind I found one for 24.99. Might give it a try. You don't have to do anything special with them do you. Dental floss, super glue, dog crap.

 

[Dudditz]

Just ordered the Ehpro Kayfun V4? Any word on how it compares to the others?

 

[leong jenny]

Which manufacture makes the best kayfun v4 clone? Tobeco? Robotech? EHpro?? or any other?

 

[2legsshrt]

OK I need to know now I am about to push the order button on a Tobecco. Is it the best or not?

 

[dwcraig1]

Well I'm down just two clones, my original got adopted by someone in Alaska.

Here's my new wick clippers

 

[KTMRider]

I just got a pair myself...

 

[NeuReleases]

^ lol are those ones 2 posts above originally for toe/fingernails? if so i use the exact same thing. Much smaller/ easier to stick in to tight spots to cut wicks. As for the next clone i am gonna get it is for sure going to be the hcigar one, I really do enjoy the fact that it has no branding. Enough so that it is a major selling point for me, i sorta hate branded clones as they can get passed of to someone less knowledgable as an authentic for 10x the price, especially when demand is high and supply is low on authentics. The fact that it is 316ss is also a plus too, first of the clones i've seen thus far that use the same steel as the authentics.