Attention ECF members and CASAA members!! Call to Action for New York!!

[daniel2828]

Here's the rub, though. New York charges $9 to $10 for a pack of cigarettes. That's at LEAST 2/3rds in taxes alone. If you write your legislators and tell them that e-cigarettes have worked for you, that's exactly the kind of ammunition they need to ban them. They don't give squat about your health. They want your money. And you are notifying them that you have stopped giving it to them.

 

[kristin]

Just posted this up in the general discussion forum. Why did no-one else do this? If we are going to get the message out to people to take action, we must put posts in forums where people will actually see it.

The notices only go so far, I'm afraid.

I guess I figured that by posting frequently on this thread, it would keep it in the "New Posts" results. I'm leery of starting threads in several places - it makes it difficult to keep everyone informed and you have to answer the same questions in each thread and I can't access some forums to answer questions.

 

[daniel2828]

Couldn't agree more. As a moderator of many boards in my time, I've never quite understood why there are so many categories. One is enough. The internet is HUGE. No one has the time to track this amount of data.

 

[BuzzKill]

DONE ! , e-mails on the way

 

[Nicotine]

"The FDA had warned that e-cig use poses "acute health risks," that "the dangers posed by their toxic chemicals . . . cannot seriously be questioned," and that they have caused a wide variety of potentially serious symptoms "including racing pulse, dizziness, slurred speech, mouth ulcers, heartburn, coughing, ........, and sore throat." Source E-Cigarette Imports Banned Indefinitely[/url]
That's what we are up against. A well structured, well organised, and very well funded group.
Anyone that hasn't been to this website should visit it. They will stop at nothing short of banning Nicotine. Even if we have a total ban on e-cigs and some of us reluctantly return to smoking. We will be forced to drive out into the middle of nowhere to smoke or vape if a blackmarket exists. I was appalled when I moved to the USA and Texas to find that you can be arrested and fined for being drunk anywhere other than your own property. Even if you walk to a bar you can be arrested walking home. But with these ASH people they want even smoking to be banned in your own homes, in case a wisp of smoke undetectable even to your neighbors noses could infect their lungs and kill their children. Is this the land of free? Yes free to have all rights removed.
So that is the future for American vaping being arrested and jailed no doubt for carrying a 10ml bottle of Waffle juice.
Watch out coffee drinkers your next.. apparently mg for mg caffeine is a bad as Nicotine.
But as always we must think of the children.. I for one weep for a future where the world superpower has got a population of adults that are basically a smothered controlled bunch of babies that have never been exposed to anything. Ill end on a paraphrase from Bill Hicks " Got some bad news for the non-smokers, non smokers die everyday to" A life without risk is no life at all.

 

[Nicotine]

Why are we banned from linking to Ash USA? It is hardly a ........., and relevant to the post I made.

 

[Oliver]

You're probably right - I'm just quite sensitive about giving them too much publicity right now.

 

[yanks21]

Here's the rub, though. New York charges $9 to $10 for a pack of cigarettes. That's at LEAST 2/3rds in taxes alone. If you write your legislators and tell them that e-cigarettes have worked for you, that's exactly the kind of ammunition they need to ban them. They don't give squat about your health. They want your money. And you are notifying them that you have stopped giving it to them.

True, they probably don't realize that many New Yorkers haven't bought more than a few pack of smokes in New York (outside of an Indian Reservation) in EONS. I used to have to travel to CA a fair amount on business and the amount I saved by buying cartons there paid for my flight and hotel and if it wasn't Cali a friend would ship to me from New Hampshire and or relatives in the Carolinas.

 

[Classic_Crisis]

is anyone here going from franklin county/ the north country?

 

[Bill Godshall]

The correct Albany addresses for NY Senate Health Committee members is below (the contact info which I previously posted didn't contain any fax numbers for 3 Senators, and didn't contain Albany fax numbers for 3 Senators).

Calls, snail mails, faxes, and e-mails are all helpful. And if you already sent letters (via e-mail, snail mail or fax), follow it up with a call.


Please write/fax/calll NY Senate Health Committee members:

Thomas K. Duane, Chair
430 Capitol Building
Albany, NY 12247
518-455-2451
Fax 518-426-6846
duane@senate.state.ny.us

Hugh T. Farley
706 Legislative Office Building
Albany, NY 12247
518-455-2181
Fax (518) 455-2271
farley@senate.state.ny.us

Charles J. Fuschillo, Jr.
615 Legislative Office Building
Albany, New York 12247
518-455-3341
Fax 518-426-6823
fuschill@senate.state.ny.us

Kemp Hannon
408 Legislative Office Building
Albany, NY 12247
518-455-2200
Fax 518-426-6954
hannon@senate.state.ny.us

Craig M. Johnson
814 Legislative Office Building
Albany, NY 12247
518-455-2622
Fax 518-426-6894
johnson@senate.state.ny.us

Jeffrey D. Klein (bill sponsor)
427 Capitol Building
Albany, New York 12247
518-455-3595
Fax 518-426-6887
jdklein@senate.state.ny.us

Carl Kruger
913 Legislative Office Building
Albany, New York 12247
518-455-2460
Fax 518-426-6855
kruger@senate.state.ny.us

William J. Larkin, Jr.
406 Legislative Office Building
Albany, NY 12247
518-455-2770
Fax 518-426-6923
larkin@senate.state.ny.us

Betty Little
506 Legislative Office Building
Albany, NY 12247
518-455-2811
Fax 518-426-6873
little@senate.state.ny.us

Velmanette Montgomery
711 Legislative Office Building
Albany, NY 12247
518-455-3451
Fax 518-426-6854
montgome@senate.state.ny.us

Stephen M. Saland
617 Legislative Office Building
Albany, New York 12247
518-455-2411
Fax 518-426-6920
saland@senate.state.ny.us

John L. Sampson
409 Legislative Office Building
Albany, NY 12247
518-455-2788
Fax 518-426-6806
sampson@senate.state.ny.us

Andrea Stewart-Cousins
805 Legislative Office Building
Albany, NY 12247
518-455-2585
Fax 518-426-6811
scousins@senate.state.ny.us

Antoine M. Thompson
902 Legislative Office Building
Albany, New York 12247
518-455-3371
Fax 518-426-6969
athompso@senate.state.ny.us

David J. Valesky
416 State Capitol Building
Albany, New York 12247
518-455-2838
Fax 518-426-6885
valesky@senate.state.ny.us

George Winner
415 Legislative Office Building
Albany, NY 12247
518-455-2091
Fax 518-426-6976
winner@senate.state.ny.us

Catherine Young
513 Legislative Office Building
Albany, New York 12247
518-455-3563
Fax 518-426-6905
cyoung@senate.state.ny.us

 

[Ragman]

I have sent emails to all of our Ny Senate Health Commitee members. I would like to do more by calling them.
However I would like to give them the best arguement without saying something that could possibly do more harm then good for our case.

Is there anyone out there who has done something like this before and knows just what to say? If I had some sort of writeup as to what to say to the committee members then I would do so more eagerly without worry of sounding stupid or misinforming the members I call.

Thanks,

 

[yvilla]

is anyone here going from franklin county/ the north country?

We have received written assurances from Senator Duane's office that the bill will not be called for discussion/action at the tomorrow's Senate Health Committee meeting.

That means we have more time for people to continue with phone calls, letters, faxes, and emails. The more we inundate them with opposition messages the better.

Also, anyone who can plan to go to Albany for the date they DO schedule the bill at a Health Committee meeting (most likely a Tuesday), please stay tuned! You can also PM me, to be put on a list of people I will email/PM directly when we learn the bill is scheduled, to discuss coordination of transportation and/or car pooling from various areas of the state to Albany.

 

[telsie]

I've sent emails.

 

[keon718nyc]

I called numorous numbers listed here, Faxed & Emailed many state officials will continue to fight this till its stopped!!!

 

[yanks21]

We have received written assurances from Senator Duane's office that the bill will not be called for discussion/action at the tomorrow's Senate Health Committee meeting.

Thanks so much for the update and for EVERYTHING you are doing, yvilla!

 

[Thyestean]

By the way, only 17 comments on the NYSenate Open Legislation page for S7234

S7234 - NY Senate Open Legislation - Prohibits the sale of electronic cigarettes to minors and items not defined as a tobacco product or approved by the FDA as a tobacco use cessation or harm reduction - New York State Senate

Perhaps a few more comments by ECFers might do some good?

SJ

Nice to see they finally got around to approving the comments on there today. Jumped it from 17 to 72

 

[Sojourner]

I entered comments at the S7234 NY Senate Open Legislation site, emailed the 17 Senators, faxed the 17 Senators, and then called each of the 17 Senators offices. They are taking tally's of callers. Please call them and tell them you oppose S7234, the bill to ban ecigs!

 

[empnero]

We have received written assurances from Senator Duane's office that the bill will not be called for discussion/action at the tomorrow's Senate Health Committee meeting.

That means we have more time for people to continue with phone calls, letters, faxes, and emails. The more we inundate them with opposition messages the better.

Thats good new, I agree, at least we have some more time. I'm not hopeful but maybe well actually pull it off

 

[MsSki]

My Grandparents who do not vape, But are so happy that i have quit anologs and they reside in NY, will be making some phone calls, I just love it when my grandpa will fight for us, he understands how important this being he use to chew and smoke. My question can i also make phone calls and send out faxes being i dont live in the State in NY?
Tara

 

[DaliMama]

Gosh this is so aggravating!! When will the government just take a step back? Hopefully this won't be another instance of the government ramming their 'authority' down our throats. Argh!

*steps down from soap box*

I have sent emails to the legislators in New York and also commented on the DISQus site.