Authentic Svoemesto Kayfun 5
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I just don't want to use anything that will taint my juice...therefore, if I use the same juice I'm vaping, I'm safe.
But I like the idea of using other food safe products.
Vaseline seems like an obvious choice, however it's a petroleum based product.
Food grade silly-cone seems like the next best option...but that's just silly.
Time for this old dog to learn some new tricks!
I'll try some alternatives and report back.
But I like the idea of using other food safe products.
Vaseline seems like an obvious choice, however it's a petroleum based product.
Food grade silly-cone seems like the next best option...but that's just silly.
Time for this old dog to learn some new tricks!
I'll try some alternatives and report back.
The two orings in question will always be in contact with ejuice.
No need for anything other than a thorough lube prior to assembly... with ejuice.
Using anything else, and you chance spoiling the vape as intended by the Kayfun 5 designers.
IMO, Jim
No need for anything other than a thorough lube prior to assembly... with ejuice.
Using anything else, and you chance spoiling the vape as intended by the Kayfun 5 designers.
IMO, Jim
Another Quirk I have discovered is when you close down the Juice Control to Top up you cant move the airflow control ! It must lock down the airflow ring ....... After much playing about with it discovered you need the juice control open to move the airflow ring ! Of course it may just be mine that does this 
Another Quirk I have discovered is when you close down the Juice Control to Top up you cant move the airflow control ! It must lock down the airflow ring ....... After much playing about with it discovered you need the juice control open to move the airflow ring ! Of course it may just be mine that does this
It actually says that in the manual...
I thought mine was busted too.
They all do. The purpose is unknown to me at this time. But then again, what need to adjust airflow while filling.Another Quirk I have discovered is when you close down the Juice Control to Top up you cant move the airflow control ! It must lock down the airflow ring ....... After much playing about with it discovered you need the juice control open to move the airflow ring ! Of course it may just be mine that does this
Jim
Same idea....silicone lubes seem to make the most sense. If I didn't have my 34 lifteimes worth of Vacuum Grease (also a silicone lube) I'd explore Keg Butter.
I have to admit I started using it on atomizer o rings because I had used the vacuum grease on my reef aquarium pump O rings etc for the last 15 years. It's never bothered even the most sensitive corals and it doesn't wash away.
Most times I find that I don't have to reapply it after thorough cleanings with detergent or alcohol unless I rub off a little from the O rings with a paper towel or something. The stuff is basically insoluble in our normal cleaning agents etc. Most of my attys get one application when they are new and no reapplication is ever needed.
Duane
Was just playing with it trying to sample all the Airflow settings
I should have read the Manual !
No Worries Mate...Was just playing with it trying to sample all the Airflow settings
I should have read the Manual !
I spec in a couple days, I'll be doing the same.
Cheers!!!
Jim
I use Blistex lip balm. No problemo. Just a thin film on the o-rings and some threads and all is good.
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The airflow ring is captured between the bottom plate/510 base, and the chimney section.
When the juice control is closed, that means the chimney has moved down...thereby trapping the airflow ring from moving up.
The ring itself will only go up to a certain point, but in order to move up, for the airflow to be selected, the juice control/chimney part must be moved up enough.
If you unscrew the bottom pin/screw, the small base plate will come off, and you can pop the airflow ring off of the build deck/central body.
When stripped of the tank and airflow ring, the Kayfun 5 reveals itself to be a small, central platform, to which the other parts attach.
Taking into consideration the entirety of its design, I am able to see all the previous generations of Kayfuns represented in this one Kayfun.
It is a fairly remarkable piece of engineering!
When the juice control is closed, that means the chimney has moved down...thereby trapping the airflow ring from moving up.
The ring itself will only go up to a certain point, but in order to move up, for the airflow to be selected, the juice control/chimney part must be moved up enough.
If you unscrew the bottom pin/screw, the small base plate will come off, and you can pop the airflow ring off of the build deck/central body.
When stripped of the tank and airflow ring, the Kayfun 5 reveals itself to be a small, central platform, to which the other parts attach.
Taking into consideration the entirety of its design, I am able to see all the previous generations of Kayfuns represented in this one Kayfun.
It is a fairly remarkable piece of engineering!
I can't wait. Bought a REO today, will snatch up a K5 when HHV has them in stock. Good thing I work from home and can kind of hide the vape Mail from The Mrs.
Well, suffice it to say, that this Kayfun and I are gonna have some words with each other.
Apparently my 1.1 ohm build, at 10 watts, is not going to work with this atomizer.
So I will, unfortunately, have to leave it in the box until I can get my hands on a Radius...cuz I need more power...and I refuse to carry a Provari tube in anything other than 18350 mode.
Which means a Procyon is off the table.
I'm guessing I'll need to build this at 1.0 ohm, with a thicker wire (currently using 28g), and like 15-20 watts.
Doing that on a P3 in 18350 mode would kill the battery too fast.
Now, the air.
I don't know if those who own one already have noticed, but there are little dots engraved on the base, when you lift the airflow ring. They indicate which setting you're on.
Unlike the advertisements, and manuals, setting number one is WAY airier than a KFL. I mean...I tried it side by side with a KF4, and it's even. On setting 1.
Don't even get me started on setting 4. Cuz it's like 95% as wide open as my Plume Veil v1.5 dripper...which is about as airy as taking a breath...through your mouth with nothing in the way.
So...for now, this $115 toy will collect dust, until my custom Radius comes home to roost.
What a shame.
Build deck is nice. A little weird to work with, compared to the previous generations. Felt like trying to do a familiar task with my non-dominant hand. I got it done, but it was clumsy, and a little strange feeling.
Tucking the wicks, with the now-permanent congestion ring (similar to KF4) was kinda weird. I kept wanting to take the congestion ring off...hahaha
Once assembled, the juice control worked a little better, because I definitely tightened the top cap down onto the glass (more than I was comfortable with). Juice flow was still very tight, and I made sure to swap out the rings, and lube the new ones.
On top of all this, the whole damn thing kept wanting to unscrew from my P3, whenever I tried to open the juice control.
This is because they used forward threading for everything...and I'm blaming all the cry babies who whined about the KF4's reverse threading.
Yeah maybe not everyone is mechanically inclined like I am. But damn. The KF4 had that ONE thing done correctly, and now they've gone back to the wrong threading, all because people were too (lazy, stupid, apathetic, willing to complain, unwilling to pay attention to the manual) :insert description of choice:
Sorry to come across negatively.
The Kayfun 5 is a well built, and thought out machine.
It is, however, built for higher power...whether they outright admit that or not. Too many people complained about the KF4 not being airy enough (which means higher powered builds don't work as well). So SM made damn sure this model would have enough airflow...and in my OPINION, they went overboard.
My only hope is that they'll release a plug for the air ring.
I feel like I could plug one side, with it set on slot #1, and it would resemble the KFL they say it should.
And could this thing be any taller? I'm sure it's partially an optical illusion...because it's as tall as my KF4 w/P3 base, with a Steam Tuners Nano chimney and SM short tank.
So, overall, I can't make any REAL conclusions about it...besides the mechanical and engineering gripes I have with it.
I can't speak on performance.
I haven't "broken it in" yet, and to be fair, I used a new (to me) flavor that I've never vaped before.
I will report back on performance, once I've got a familiar flavor in the build.
I will report back on the juice I used tonight, once I have it in a tank I think it will perform better with. Cuz this juice should be amazing, based on the smell, and the drop I put on my tongue. Educated guess.
Whoops! Wrote a novel!
See ya in the morning!
Let's hear more talk about the theories on lubing with eliquid vs other things...it's a subject I've never seen discussed, as everyone has their own ideas on what to use. I prefer to use the juice I'm about to vape.
Apparently my 1.1 ohm build, at 10 watts, is not going to work with this atomizer.
So I will, unfortunately, have to leave it in the box until I can get my hands on a Radius...cuz I need more power...and I refuse to carry a Provari tube in anything other than 18350 mode.
Which means a Procyon is off the table.
I'm guessing I'll need to build this at 1.0 ohm, with a thicker wire (currently using 28g), and like 15-20 watts.
Doing that on a P3 in 18350 mode would kill the battery too fast.
Now, the air.
I don't know if those who own one already have noticed, but there are little dots engraved on the base, when you lift the airflow ring. They indicate which setting you're on.
Unlike the advertisements, and manuals, setting number one is WAY airier than a KFL. I mean...I tried it side by side with a KF4, and it's even. On setting 1.
Don't even get me started on setting 4. Cuz it's like 95% as wide open as my Plume Veil v1.5 dripper...which is about as airy as taking a breath...through your mouth with nothing in the way.
So...for now, this $115 toy will collect dust, until my custom Radius comes home to roost.
What a shame.
Build deck is nice. A little weird to work with, compared to the previous generations. Felt like trying to do a familiar task with my non-dominant hand. I got it done, but it was clumsy, and a little strange feeling.
Tucking the wicks, with the now-permanent congestion ring (similar to KF4) was kinda weird. I kept wanting to take the congestion ring off...hahaha
Once assembled, the juice control worked a little better, because I definitely tightened the top cap down onto the glass (more than I was comfortable with). Juice flow was still very tight, and I made sure to swap out the rings, and lube the new ones.
On top of all this, the whole damn thing kept wanting to unscrew from my P3, whenever I tried to open the juice control.
This is because they used forward threading for everything...and I'm blaming all the cry babies who whined about the KF4's reverse threading.
Yeah maybe not everyone is mechanically inclined like I am. But damn. The KF4 had that ONE thing done correctly, and now they've gone back to the wrong threading, all because people were too (lazy, stupid, apathetic, willing to complain, unwilling to pay attention to the manual) :insert description of choice:
Sorry to come across negatively.
The Kayfun 5 is a well built, and thought out machine.
It is, however, built for higher power...whether they outright admit that or not. Too many people complained about the KF4 not being airy enough (which means higher powered builds don't work as well). So SM made damn sure this model would have enough airflow...and in my OPINION, they went overboard.
My only hope is that they'll release a plug for the air ring.
I feel like I could plug one side, with it set on slot #1, and it would resemble the KFL they say it should.
And could this thing be any taller? I'm sure it's partially an optical illusion...because it's as tall as my KF4 w/P3 base, with a Steam Tuners Nano chimney and SM short tank.
So, overall, I can't make any REAL conclusions about it...besides the mechanical and engineering gripes I have with it.
I can't speak on performance.
I haven't "broken it in" yet, and to be fair, I used a new (to me) flavor that I've never vaped before.
I will report back on performance, once I've got a familiar flavor in the build.
I will report back on the juice I used tonight, once I have it in a tank I think it will perform better with. Cuz this juice should be amazing, based on the smell, and the drop I put on my tongue. Educated guess.
Whoops! Wrote a novel!
See ya in the morning!
Let's hear more talk about the theories on lubing with eliquid vs other things...it's a subject I've never seen discussed, as everyone has their own ideas on what to use. I prefer to use the juice I'm about to vape.
Try using 30ga kanthal and run your setup under 10w
Like this your new expensive toy will not collect any dust till the Radius shows up.
Like this your new expensive toy will not collect any dust till the Radius shows up.
Try using 30ga kanthal and run your setup under 10w
Like this your new expensive toy will not collect any dust till the Radius shows up.
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I've never considered using smaller gauge wire.
Now I gotta calculate my build all over again.
5/6 wraps of 28g will get me a 1.0-1.2 ohm coil...
Sooo...4-5 wraps of 30g will get me the same results? But that just seems like such a small number of wraps...and 30g deforms so easily.
Hmmmmm...maybe I'll try it.
I've got 26g...I could do 5/6 wraps and come in under 1.0 ohms...but still well within the P3's range. But 10 watts may not be enough to fuel that coil.
Uggggghh. Time to go back into R&D mode.
I don't like being an adult today.
For now I've gone back to my KM3 and KF4's as my daily drivers- using the KF5 for occasional low Nic flavour lung hits... What I would truly love was if the Svoemesto 'solution' was a new positive post, with thicker walls for less airflow- it would be absolutely amazing if they somehow managed to squeeze an airflow adjustment screw into it- so you then had 'rough' airflow adjustment on the outside and 'fine' tuning in the usual kayfun way [emoji4]
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