Authentic Svoemesto Kayfun 5

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Just ordered from HHV. :)
Because reviews have been all over the place regarding liking/not liking the airy draw, I *did* try a clone first.
It will go in the doomsday stash box. ;)

I'm REALLY excited, I CANNOT wait for it to get here. :banana:
 

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Just ordered from HHV. :)
Because reviews have been all over the place regarding liking/not liking the airy draw, I *did* try a clone first.
It will go in the doomsday stash box. ;)

I'm REALLY excited, I CANNOT wait for it to get here. :banana:
Do you have an air restrictor kit?
 

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Well, if you like airy the K5 will work for you. :)

Definitely a nice tank. I go back and forth between the K5 and the KM3. Using the K5 lately.
Well, that was why I tried a clone first.
I'd gone back and forth, back and forth...waiting...trying to decide.
I was just fearful to spend the money in case I didn't like it.
I'm pretty sure it will be perfect for me.
I love the KFL+'s, and use one daily, I just wish they were just a >< smidge airier, so I think they'll be great...
Hoping anyway. :laugh:
 
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Well, that was why I tried a clone first.
I'd gone back and forth, back and forth...waiting...trying to decide.
I was just fearful to spend the money in case I didn't like it.
I'm pretty sure it will be perfect for me.
I love the KFL+'s, and use one daily, I just wish they were just a >< smidge airier, so I think they'll be great...
Hoping anyway. :laugh:
The KFLs were fantastic. A major breakthrough in vaping to be sure. The K5 is a nice improvement over the KFLs. Better flavor, better air options, easier to build, top fill, removable deck, etc. They took all the things other manufacturers added and put them into a KFL and hit the bulls-eye with the K5. When did you order yours?
 

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The KFLs were fantastic. A major breakthrough in vaping to be sure. The K5 is a nice improvement over the KFLs. Better flavor, better air options, easier to build, top fill, removable deck, etc. They took all the things other manufacturers added and put them into a KFL and hit the bulls-eye with the K5. When did you order yours?
I ordered this morning. :)

When deeming came out, I got with Robin and asked her for suggestions for long term attys.
She suggested the KFL+'s, I'm sooooo thankful for her suggestion too!
I've got 5 for my doomsday stash, and I ordered a KFM3, (Dash Vapes), you helped me early on with those builds...not sure if you remember. :)
The KFM3 is just a tiny bit tighter than I care for, it's fine, just not my very favorite due to the draw.
Love the top fill though!!!

I also found a great little hack for when you need to get to your coil on the KFL.
I had a new package of those foam earplugs, and if you roll it, let it expand in the end of the tank, you can use that for a plug and won't lose but a drop or two of juice.
I've done it twice now, so far, it works perfectly. :)

ETA: I have a mix of other attys too, just those are my SM. ;)
 
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Yep, these Kayfuns will last forever. The only real wear parts are the orings and those can always be replaced. Even then, I'm still using my original orings with no trouble (even on my near-4 year old original KFLs). And yes, the KM3s have a tighter draw. Fits my range perfectly and I like the smaller profile. But for those who like lots of air and/or a larger capacity the K5 is a better match. HV should ship your K5 quickly unless you added juice to your order.
 

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Yep, these Kayfuns will last forever. The only real wear parts are the orings and those can always be replaced. Even then, I'm still using my original orings with no trouble (even on my near-4 year old original KFLs). And yes, the KM3s have a tighter draw. Fits my range perfectly and I like the smaller profile. But for those who like lots of air and/or a larger capacity the K5 is a better match. HV should ship your K5 quickly unless you added juice to your order.
I think they'll last forever too. :)
Ha, I already have a tracking number. :D
 
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WooHoo! You'll see it Monday probably.
Monday is Labor Day. :unsure: But Tuesday maybe!! :banana: If it goes out with their mail today, it will have today and tomorrow to get to St. Louis, which is the last major hub before our post office.
I expedited/upgraded shipping, so fingers crossed.

Hey too Bronze, have you worked with 27 ga. Kanthal?
I think Katya has, if I remember correctly.
I bought some thinking it might heat up fractionally quicker, but without experimenting, I have no idea how many wraps on the size of drill bit you'd recommended a couple months ago...have forgotten the size...something 42 maybe?
 
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I've worked with 26, 28, 29, 30, and 32. I settled on 28 with my P3 (Boost) and 29 for my P2's. Gonna try 27 on the P3 eventually. I can use either 26 or 28 on the P3 due to the Boost feature. Those don't work well on the P2/2.5s because it just takes too long for the heat to ramp up for my liking. I always used 30 for the P2/2.5s but recently tried 29 and it is acceptable. 30 is so fragile. The 29 gives the coil more beef that helps when rewicking and ramp up is not too bad.

What mod are you planning to try the 27 on?
 

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I've worked with 26, 28, 29, 30, and 32. I settled on 28 with my P3 (Boost) and 29 for my P2's. Gonna try 27 on the P3 eventually. I can use either 26 or 28 on the P3 due to the Boost feature. Those don't work well on the P2/2.5s because it just takes too long for the heat to ramp up for my liking. I always used 30 for the P2/2.5s but recently tried 29 and it is acceptable. 30 is so fragile. The 29 gives the coil more beef that helps when rewicking and ramp up is not too bad.

What mod are you planning to try the 27 on?
ProVari Classic V2
I try to get my builds around 1.7 to 1.8 ohms.
Just thought maybe 27 would heat up a little faster than the 28 does.
The 28 ga. is fine though, just lags a little, I've tried to adjust my draw to allow for it to heat up.
I mean is just a second or two, I'm prob splitting hairs. ;)
 
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I try to get my builds around 1.7 to 1.8 ohms.
Just thought maybe 27 would heat up a little faster than the 28 does.
The 28 ga. is fine though, just lags a little, I've tried to adjust my draw to allow for it to heat up.
I mean is just a second or two, I'm prob splitting hairs. ;)
I don't think you're splitting hairs at all. I'm very sensitive to ramp up time. It's a major factor for me and many others so you are not alone by any stretch. Here's the rule...the thicker the wire, the longer it takes to ramp up to temperature (given the same wattage level). So 27 will take longer to heat up than 28 because 27 is thicker than 28 (the lower the gauge number the thicker the wire and smaller the resistance). If your goal is to maintain the same power level (watts) and have shorter ramp up times then going from 28 to 27 is the wrong direction. You'd want to go from 28 to 29. You will notice an improvement in how long you have to wait for it to heat up. 29 is noticeably faster than 28. It's a personal preference thing but I find 28 to be just a little too thick for my P2/2.5s. This is why I have used 29 and 30 on those mods. As I stated earlier, 30 is quite fragile and when rewicking it is tricky to keep them from deforming. 29 is more durable and makes rewicking easier without sacrificing too much ramp up time. My suggestion is go to 29 gauge. Try 8 wraps, 2.5mm inside diameter. Should put you about 1.9 ohms. Wrap using 2.4mm and probably about 1.8 ohms.

What are you using to wrap around? A drill bit? What size?
 

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I don't think you're splitting hairs at all. I'm very sensitive to ramp up time. It's a major factor for me and many others so you are not alone by any stretch. Here's the rule...the thicker the wire, the longer it takes to ramp up to temperature (given the same wattage level). So 27 will take longer to heat up than 28 because 27 is thicker than 28 (the lower the gauge number the thicker the wire and smaller the resistance). If your goal is to maintain the same power level (watts) and have shorter ramp up times then going from 28 to 27 is the wrong direction. You'd want to go from 28 to 29. You will notice an improvement in how long you have to wait for it to heat up. 29 is noticeably faster than 28. It's a personal preference thing but I find 28 to be just a little too thick for my P2/2.5s. This is why I have used 29 and 30 on those mods. As I stated earlier, 30 is quite fragile and when rewicking it is tricky to keep them from deforming. 29 is more durable and makes rewicking easier without sacrificing too much ramp up time. My suggestion is go to 29 gauge. Try 8 wraps, 2.5mm inside diameter. Should put you about 1.9 ohms. Wrap using 2.4mm and probably about 1.8 ohms.

What are you using to wrap around? A drill bit? What size?

Ugh, I DID go the wrong way with sizing, and I KNOW better. :facepalm:
I was a floral designer for years, and handled different ga. wires for everything.
Darn it, yes...the smaller the number, the larger the ga.

I've looked all through my notes I have available online, (I think my notes are on my computer at home) and can't find the size of the drill bit. But it's the size you recommended I get (for basic micro coils), I do 8 wraps with the 28 ga. now to get 1.7 to 1.8 ohms.

I'll get some 29 ga.
Thank you.:nun:
 
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If you put your builds into the SteamEngine site, you can also see the Heat Flux values of your chosen coil gauges, an important vape factor often overlooked.

Heat flux
Generally you want to stay somewhere between 120 and 350 mW/mm². Some like a cooler vape, others like it hot. The color of the flame icon will give you a rough idea. Adjust to your own taste.
 

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Ugh, I DID go the wrong way with sizing, and I KNOW better. :facepalm:
I was a floral designer for years, and handled different ga. wires for everything.
Darn it, yes...the smaller the number, the larger the ga.

I've looked all through my notes I have available online, (I think my notes are on my computer at home) and can't find the size of the drill bit. But it's the size you recommended I get (for basic micro coils), I do 8 wraps with the 28 ga. now to get 1.7 to 1.8 ohms.

I'll get some 29 ga.
Thank you.:nun:
I can't remember what I told you. If you want 2.4mm (which I would recommend) then go with a 3/32" drill bit. That equals 2.38mm (call it 2.4mm). I used to use 2.0mm but when I got my KM3 the deck was smaller so I went with a larger diameter and used less wraps so now I always go 2.5mm.
 

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I can't remember what I told you. If you want 2.4mm (which I would recommend) then go with a 3/32" drill bit. That equals 2.38mm (call it 2.4mm). I used to use 2.0mm but when I got my KM3 the deck was smaller so I went with a larger diameter and used less wraps so now I always go 2.5mm.
I'll look at home in my notes, and add to or adjust accordingly.
Whatever you suggested is working out very well though.
I think the 29 ga. would put it to near perfection. :)
 
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