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sanneke

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Ethics? On the internet? Where? D:



No you aren't alone. Nowhere in either of the threads have I seen any sort of rational explanation as to why he feels so deeply betrayed other than complaining that he had to sign up for a forum in order to gain access to a private post that contained the 10% off code. Somewhere in there was some paranoid thought that some company/entity was paying so-and-so for his 'information'. Oh and he's upset because he was banned from a forum that he wanted nothing to do with in the first place, which makes even less sense.



Thank you.
That makes sense.

:D
 

bribri

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Thank you.
That makes sense.

:D
Oh and he's upset because he was banned from a forum that he wanted nothing to do with in the first place, which makes even less sense.

I want to login to try to remove my information. Jesus Did you guys loose IQ points when you smoked one of these things? Like I have no right to feel betrayed? Like I certainly wasn't mislead? Like it is buy at your own risk when you enter your credit card information you might be sent to someone elses site? BS!!! Just be quiet. You didnt get the offer, so you dont know.
 

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So I'm clicking on the link now on Janty's site (JantyUSA.com). OK, now I'm at a completely different page, one that looks completely different from Janty's site. It looks like a forum. The address bar reveals that I am no longer at Janty's site. Has this changed from when you did it, or is it the same? If it is the same, which part took you by surprise?

I agree the link on Janty's site should read something like, "Register at these forums and get a discount code for our awesome new product!" But as it is now, I don't see Janty being guilty of anything other than choosing one of the oddest methods of coupon code delivery I've ever seen.
 

lull

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Name one name brand? SkullCandy, Enterprise Rent-A-Car, Dove, Alienware, BodyArtForms, SteelNavel, Shoes.com, Mrs. Fields, Target, Best Buy, etc. They all essentially have the same 'sign-up/register for free to receive discounts!' offers. Could Janty have chosen a more effective method or worded it differently? Sure, but it's not unheard of.


Mislead and betrayed? For what? Saving you 10%? Have you any idea how ridiculous that sounds?

All you had to enter when you signed up was your e-mail address and then create a username and password unique to that site. Nowhere under the profile section does it have anything remotely of use to someone trying to steal sensitive information.

And what does credit card information have to do with any of this? The only way to pay (that I have seen) with Janty online is PayPal or check/money order through mail. Janty doesn't even know your credit card/bank account information, let alone the e-cigtest forum.
 
Hello,
For me, the question that comes to mind is: what interest has a brand to redirect to another site from an item sold in stores?
It is not just trade links
There will promote another site
It is not surprising in these conditions to create questions about the links between them
Now, I guess Janty has assessed the possible hostile reactions to this method.
In all cases, advertising is free and fast because it induce debate here and there
Good method for that !
I propose link against spam
It is a disposable email, anonymous and free. Anti SPAM.
All inboxes are available and accessible without registration or password.
YopMail : E-mail jetable et anonyme.
 

yo han

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Regardless, the moderators here that are suppliers don't operate and run the entire boards. There are more moderators than just one single guy that happens to be a partner with Janty, and he isn't even a supplier - he just has business ties with them.
OK but in what way would one guy be able to control the entire contents of a forum in such a way that the entire forum would become biased?
 

bribri

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Lull, with your sketchy 13 post total. why.do.u.care.so.much.about.my.opinion?????? I am entitled to it. I have earned it on this forum. I have paid my dues. Have you? I did not save any ten percent I did not buy the product after that happen. Your the one who makes no sense you just are defending a friend of yours and you don't even hear yourself. OK like you have been shuttled to another website after using one with your paypal information? Yeah sure thats called a porn pop up or a virus. Maybe you check those out so much you forgot the difference between a vaporizoring company and a .......... Ok give me your credit card and then let me confuse you and take you on a ride and see how you feel while asking for your personal details. If you don't think what was done was weird, then you are in a different reality then I. The link should have said "Hey if you want a discount come register on some other dudes forum over here!" NOT "click here to get a discount!" And as you can tell by my POLL. I was so sure it was a Janty site I entitled the thread "Janty Forum". You feel me?

Cheers,

Brian
 
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bribri

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OK but in what way would one guy be able to control the entire contents of a forum in such a way that the entire forum would become biased?

I dont know, perhaps by banning the people who have some negative opinions... Ert... Did you just have a brain fart?

When I try to log in it says: BANNED For Life Reason: Trolling.
 

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I have been looking around for a new Ecig. I noticed the Janty mini fogger. I used the Janty link from the Suppliers link off of this forum. Right under the picture of the mini fogger it now says, "coupon for first 50 sets". If you use that link it takes you to the Ecigtest website forum. You have to register to get the coupon. So I registered, unknown to me it was not Janty....... Now I am getting tons of Ecig related spam mail. I am only registered on 2 ECig forums, this forum, (for quite a while & gotten no spam) & now the Ecigtest forum, & getting spam for 2 days now.

I also used the "contact me" link on the Janty website to ask a couple questions over 48 hours ago. No response as of yet either to asnwer my questions about the mini fogger.

I seen a post it was sold out already somewhere. I just tried it, I did not order it & won't unless I hear back from them on my question, but it did let me put it in a shopping cart so I still might be available also.

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Teresa
 

Sexi

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I hated to leave my last reply here hanging & I am not sure if this is coincidence or not. Right after I made the last post about not receiving a reply from Janty about my questions I received their answers at:

12/12/2008 10:34:28 AM Central Standard Time

No biggie, just wanted to make sure I didn't bash Janty for not replying, I guess it just took longer than I expected of probably less then 48 hours LOL.
Hugs,
Teresa
 

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Sexi said:
...So I registered, unknown to me it was not Janty....... Now I am getting tons of Ecig related spam mail. I am only registered on 2 ECig forums, this forum, (for quite a while & gotten no spam) & now the Ecigtest forum, & getting spam for 2 days now.

Sexi - login to the forum then go to > User CP > Edit Options and untick the 'Receive Email' boxes :thumb:
 

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I dont know, perhaps by banning the people who have some negative opinions...
I think starting a poll here about another forum and saying you want it to shut down goes a little further than just having some negative opinions. But how did you discover you were banned anyway? You wouldn't have tried to log in if you didn't want to go there again in the first place would you? :)
 

bribri

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I think starting a poll here about another forum and saying you want it to shut down goes a little further than just having some negative opinions. But how did you discover you were banned anyway? You wouldn't have tried to log in if you didn't want to go there again in the first place would you? :)


If you read the thread, I tried to login to delete my details. I don't want to shut it down. I don't have that ability.I want to ask Janty to shut it down as my title says. But now I know its not Jantys so its irrelevent. But the principle remains that I was mislead to the degree that I came here and wrote a poll calling it a Janty forum. If that isn't mislead, what is? Besides I am not arguing there might be useful information one day in said site though it be biased.. I am more arguing Janty's relationship and the mannor in which I was brought to the site. Keep coming up with excuses for your stubborness on not apologizing. Its cool... You guys can't even stand to say "I'm sorry you FELT mislead, we are sorry for banning you for expressing your opinion on another site" - Which doesn't even imply fault.

Regards,

Brian
 
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lull

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Lull, with your sketchy 13 post total.
I'm new, obviously my post count is going to be low.

why.do.u.care.so.much.about.my.opinion?????? I am entitled to it. I have earned it on this forum. I have paid my dues. Have you?
Because your opinion makes little to no sense and it's been spread out into two separate threads on the same topic. You've done little to explain what exactly is it you're so upset about. When someone asks you, "what the big deal is," you go into defensive panic mode which is seen in a few of your replies.

Nobody said you aren't allowed to have an opinion. Not sure if you know this but the whole point of a forum is an exchange of opinions. Clearly it's you who have a problem with people offering their differing opinion of yours.

It's the internet, I don't need to "pay my dues" in order to give my point of view.

I did not save any ten percent I did not buy the product after that happen.
So if you didn't buy the product that means you didn't enter any personal information. Therefore your paranoia about them stealing/selling off your personal information is null and void. It doesn't add up.

Your the one who makes no sense you just are defending a friend of yours and you don't even hear yourself.
"Paranoia, paranoia everybody's coming to get me..."

I don't know a single person here and I don't make it a point to defend anyone or any company that is perfectly capable of doing that themselves. I just find it absolutely ridiculous that you are freaking out because you were given an option to sign-up to receive a discount.

OK like you have been shuttled to another website after using one with your paypal information?
You weren't automatically redirected to the forum site. You made a decision to click that link prior to entering any personal information.

Yeah sure thats called a porn pop up or a virus.
Porn pop-ups =/= viruses =/= phishing. How have you been on the internet for so long and fail to grasp even that? Do you even have the slightest understanding of how data is transmitted over the internet?

Maybe you check those out so much you forgot the difference between a vaporizoring company and a ..........
While you're frantically attempting to make amateurish insults I have a PROTIP for you. If you're going to try take the intellectual superiority approach; learn to spell. You are somewhere around 10 years my senior and you can't even spell vaporizing. In fact, you don't even know the difference between lose and loose.

Ok give me your credit card and then let me confuse you and take you on a ride and see how you feel while asking for your personal details.
The wording in this statement is confusing enough, thanks. Jesus. Your e-mail address is not exactly a personal detail for one. Two, nobody made you click the link and nobody made you click the registration link either.

If you don't think what was done was weird, then you are in a different reality then I.
No I don't think it's weird in the least. I'm sorry I exist in a reality where common sense and logic come before all else.

The link should have said "Hey if you want a discount come register on some other dudes forum over here!" NOT "click here to get a discount!" And as you can tell by my POLL. I was so sure it was a Janty site I entitled the thread "Janty Forum".
It's clear that those sites, by looks alone, are completely different. If you are that concerned about your personal information you should work more on your observational skills. The only person you should be upset at is yourself for being so 'careless' with 'your extremely important information'.

You guys can't even stand to say "I'm sorry you FELT mislead, we are sorry for banning you for expressing your opinion on another site" - Which doesn't even imply fault.
Why should anyone here feel sorry for your own ineptitude? It's the equivalent of me running out onto the freeway during 5 o'clock traffic and expecting someone to apologize to me for my own blatant stupidity.
 

bribri

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Lull you are a real winner aren't you. Though I certainly prefer you to that sennake girl any day heh. I can debate all your answers the only one that was valid and a dagger to me was the critique of my grammer and spelling. A third year psychology grad student who reads at least one autobiography a week should have better spelling and grammer then I do. I don't even spell check or read over what I have written. Those are valid points. Things I will think about in the future and I do thank you for nailing me on that. All the rest was just more junk and you just don't know cause you simply don't know. janty has all my information as I was already logged into my account when I clicked on the misleading link. So it was not prior to entering information as you say.I have already received ecig spam from smokeverywhere from wherever my information went with ecigtest and so will everyone else is my guess... Paranoia...No ones coming to get me except perhaps sennake and she is kind of cute in an older woman way so I don't mind....and hopefully the mailman with more ecigs... your interest in my rant is still creepy to me...you said the internet and forum is to state opinion and thats why I am frustrated..And finally yes you are clever and right you really have no idea why I was so upset about it.... But I got what I wanted and its over now.. Sorry to make you whatever I made you... can we kill this cancer now please.


Cheers

brian



I'm new, obviously my post count is going to be low.

Because your opinion makes little to no sense and it's been spread out into two separate threads on the same topic. You've done little to explain what exactly is it you're so upset about. When someone asks you, "what the big deal is," you go into defensive panic mode which is seen in a few of your replies.

Nobody said you aren't allowed to have an opinion. Not sure if you know this but the whole point of a forum is an exchange of opinions. Clearly it's you who have a problem with people offering their differing opinion of yours.

It's the internet, I don't need to "pay my dues" in order to give my point of view.

So if you didn't buy the product that means you didn't enter any personal information. Therefore your paranoia about them stealing/selling off your personal information is null and void. It doesn't add up.

"Paranoia, paranoia everybody's coming to get me..."

I don't know a single person here and I don't make it a point to defend anyone or any company that is perfectly capable of doing that themselves. I just find it absolutely ridiculous that you are freaking out because you were given an option to sign-up to receive a discount.

You weren't automatically redirected to the forum site. You made a decision to click that link prior to entering any personal information.

Porn pop-ups =/= viruses =/= phishing. How have you been on the internet for so long and fail to grasp even that? Do you even have the slightest understanding of how data is transmitted over the internet?

While you're frantically attempting to make amateurish insults I have a PROTIP for you. If you're going to try take the intellectual superiority approach; learn to spell. You are somewhere around 10 years my senior and you can't even spell vaporizing. In fact, you don't even know the difference between lose and loose.

The wording in this statement is confusing enough, thanks. Jesus. Your e-mail address is not exactly a personal detail for one. Two, nobody made you click the link and nobody made you click the registration link either.

No I don't think it's weird in the least. I'm sorry I exist in a reality where common sense and logic come before all else.

It's clear that those sites, by looks alone, are completely different. If you are that concerned about your personal information you should work more on your observational skills. The only person you should be upset at is yourself for being so 'careless' with 'your extremely important information'.

Why should anyone here feel sorry for your own ineptitude? It's the equivalent of me running out onto the freeway during 5 o'clock traffic and expecting someone to apologize to me for my own blatant stupidity.
 

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Why such a big deal to so many people?

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