Begginer kit

[ThatJoeGuy]

Just post it here, if you'd like.

 

[stephpd]

I'd go with the ego type over a cigarette look-a-like. batteries are larger so it lasts longer between charges. And for most of the ego's the end doesn't light up like a cigarette.

It also has to do with the size threads too, as to what you can get to put on the battery. The thinner 808 series, like the volt are rather limited in after market attys/ cartos/ tanks. Tbe Ego (Riva/ Kgo) all use a 501 series thread and is probably the most popular size. It certainly has many more options as to what type of things you can add to it.

An atty (atomizer) is the part that gets hot. They also require a cartridge to hold the liquid. A cartomizer has both in one unit and are easier, less messy to fill. I don't have any tanks yet so I can't really say much about them except what I've heard about them leaking, not giving good vapor or a strong throat hit. I prefer cartomizers since they usually hold more liquid and are easier to fill and less messy.

As to liquid it's the coolest part. Lots of flavors and nicotine strengths. It's what gives you the 'hit' and produces the vapor.

At the bottom of the front page of this forum are listed many vendors. Inside each there's a link to their stores to let you see what they have to offer. There's far more on their sites then we can possibly give you in short replies here. Look them over, as well as the rest of this site and decide for yourself what best might suit your needs.

 

[Retriever]

I have a Volt and use it every day. It is keeping me off of the analogs, but I am looking into some other things as well. The Volt is good though. Just come here if you have any questions. Enjoy.

 

[mynameisrob]

Most kits do not come with juice. You can use an atomizer with cartridges or cartomizers. Most people prefer cartomizers. Their a atty and cartidge all in one. They are more consistant and hold more juice. Atomizers are also used for dripping though so its not a bad idea to have a few around even if you use cartos. I use an atty and drip to test juices and then when I know I like a juice, I fill a carto.
Attys/cartos come in different resistances. Standard resistance attys/cartos are around 2.5ohm-3.0ohm and Low Resistance attys/cartos are generally 1.5ohm-2.0ohm. LR attys/cartos will give a warmer vape and more TH. Many people prefer LR attys/cartos over SR. LR attys/cartos can not be used on slim ecigs though. LRs are made for batteries 450mah+. So if you got the volt you should use standard resistace attys/cartos. Bigger battery PVs, like the eGo, kGo, Riva, and E-Power can use LR attys/cartos.

PG is thin and gives more TH and more flavor but doesnt produce a ton of vapor. VG is thick and dulls flavors alittle, but provides a lot of vapor. Most people like a combination of the two. 80/20 is a popular ratio and many vendors have it.
Higher BG juices will clog attys/cartos quicker. I recommend using 30%VG or less

 

[mynameisrob]

It also has to do with the size threads too, as to what you can get to put on the battery. The thinner 808 series, like the volt are rather limited in after market attys/ cartos/ tanks. Tbe Ego (Riva/ Kgo) all use a 501 series thread and is probably the most popular size. It certainly has many more options as to what type of things you can add to it.

An atty (atomizer) is the part that gets hot. They also require a cartridge to hold the liquid. A cartomizer has both in one unit and are easier, less messy to fill. I don't have any tanks yet so I can't really say much about them except what I've heard about them leaking, not giving good vapor or a strong throat hit. I prefer cartomizers since they usually hold more liquid and are easier to fill and less messy.

To not confuse you, the eGo/kGo/Riva etc has 510 threading, not 501. Its is the most popular and like stephpd said, has many options for attys and cartos.

The eGo tanks are what has constant leaking issues and dulls flavors. If you get an eGo I would just get a regular one and use cartos, instead of an eGo-T and use the eGo tanks. Carto tanks are different though and work well. A cartomizer with predrilled holes goes inside of the tank. Then the juice is filled into the tank around the carto. It slowly feeds the atomizer thru the predrilled holes. They work great and dont need to be refilled as often bc of the tank holding more juice.
They are nice, but I wouldnt get them to start. Start with regular cartos and then when you learn how to use them well you can experiment with tanks down the line.

 

[stephpd]

To not confuse you, the eGo/kGo/Riva etc has 510 threading, not 501. Its is the most popular and like stephpd said, has many options for attys and cartos.

My bad!

I'm fairly new to all this too. For me it about the series, or first number of the 3 digits. There's also 901 and 4** and 3** series threads.

It's just that the 510 series has far more options then most of the others. Batteries seem to be the largest, up to over 1000mAh verses 150-200mAh for most of the others. More variety of different size and ohm attys/ cartos too. Even it's bigger brothers like the E-Power and many of the variable voltage mods seem to be for the 510 series cartos.

If you get into this the 510 seems like a better investment, since the catros and tanks can be used for other higher voltage batteries.

 

[mynameisrob]

No need to apoligize! I just didnt want Bambie to get confused.

I def agree that 510 PVs are a good choice bc then you have so many different options.
I do though also understand why people like KR808 PVs. Some people really want there ecig to resemble a real cig, especially in the beginning. After awhile though, most people get over it not looking like a cig quickly and move on to something else.

The bigger battery PVs give a great vape and much longer battery life. I have an E-Power and love it. It uses non-proprietary batteries unlike the similar eGo/kGo/Riva PVs. That was one of the big things that made me like the E-Power. E-Power batteries cost $4 compared to eGo/kGo/Riva batteries that are $14-20, and they last alot longer before they need to be replaced. They are 1050mah and you get 2 with the kit, I get about a day to a day and a half on one battery. I also find it much easier to carry a spare battery for the E-Power compared to a proprietary battery PV. Im constantly going to different places for work and thats why I like the E-Power batteries. Their about the size of a AA but alittle longer so its easy to always just have an extra. For the eGo/kGo/Rivas to carry a spare battery you basically have to carry a second PV, which isnt a huge deal, but for me it was alot more annoying. I also like that everything is replaceable on the E-Power so it keeps maintainance costs down

 

[ThatJoeGuy]

If I'm not mistaken, Bambie had already ordered the Volt kit...? So the shoulda'/coulda'/woulda' posts could end up making her second-guess her choice, and such.

I suggested she post a link to the kit she ordered so that we may be able to suggest additions and accessories for what she's getting so that we may be able to help her maximize her purchase, not regret it...y'know?

 

[stephpd]

I also have gotten the E-Power and like it for the same reasons. Also picked up a variable voltage mod from Madvapes for a fair price. It also uses standard 14500 batteries (E-Power using 14650) and they all charge on the same charger. All using, for the most part, the same attys and cartos.

Still experimenting with juices and hope to be able to come close to a few of my favorites DIYing the liquids. Got some PG, VG coming in the mail next week and have a few flavors to add to them. Until then I got a delivery today of my favorites from Vapor Station to hold me through the holidays.

Best thing though is less analogs. I haven't quit yet but down to 1-2 cigs a day verses 1-2 packs. Probably could quit totally now but still have 4 packs left and can't see just trowing them away. I wasn't sure if these E-cigs would actually work. I've tried many of the other methods of quitting and they never worked. E-cigs giving me lots more psychological reinforcers that the others lacked. (vapor, something to hold, put to my lips, deep inhale, etc) Eventually cutting back on the nicotine.

 

[ThatJoeGuy]

I also have gotten the E-Power and like it for the same reasons. Also picked up a variable voltage mod from Madvapes for a fair price. It also uses standard 14500 batteries (E-Power using 14650) and they all charge on the same charger. All using, for the most part, the same attys and cartos.

Sounds like me...I have 2 14650 ePowers, the little white VV box from MadVapes, and recently traded a few attys for the little 14500 3.7v box, and won a little red Roughstack and an Indulgence V2.

Still experimenting with juices and hope to be able to come close to a few of my favorites DIYing the liquids. Got some PG, VG coming in the mail next week and have a few flavors to add to them. Until then I got a delivery today of my favorites from Vapor Station to hold me through the holidays.

Same here. I've found that many of the flavors I anticipated really liking when I first started just don't seem to do it for me now, even only being 3 months into it, or so. I've started to DIY, but haven't really hit on anything yet that really does it for me. I'll get there!

Best thing though is less analogs. I haven't quit yet but down to 1-2 cigs a day verses 1-2 packs. Probably could quit totally now but still have 4 packs left and can't see just trowing them away. I wasn't sure if these E-cigs would actually work. I've tried many of the other methods of quitting and they never worked. E-cigs giving me lots more psychological reinforcers that the others lacked. (vapor, something to hold, put to my lips, deep inhale, etc) Eventually cutting back on the nicotine.

Again, very similar to my story! Mine was a little different, though, in that I only had a few smokes left in my last pack when the kit arrived. Like you, I couldn't see wasting the remainder. For me, it wasn't JUST the nicotine. If it were, then patches or gum should have worked fine. Nor was it the motion of putting something to my lips...or else a pen or a straw in conjunction with the gum may have worked. I sat for a while and really asked myself what I enjoyed about smoking. I knew I enjoyed something...but what? I decided that what it really was was the throat hit and lung-filling sensation so to me, eCigs were the perfect solution.

 

[Bambie]

Hi everyone!

Sorry for being so long to reply, busy week end you know!
But thank for all of you who generously took the time to answer and inform me more about the e-cig! It is really appreciate!

I already bought my first kit, but I read your answers about Ego and it's always good to know about other choices and brands that are out there! So you did not wrote for nothing.

So I purchased my first kit last week and I received it Monday!
I finally went for the Volt! It was this one and the Ego-T that seems the most popular from your suggestions, but likemynameisrob said, I wasn't sure about the big batterie with the Ego and wanted something more look-a-like real cigarette.

After a week of using the Volt, I must admit I still have difficulties with it. Still not sure when I have to refill the cartomizer, or when should I recharge the batterie, or even replace the cartomizer. Sometimes it gives me good vapor, others not at all and I have to drag on the e-cig until I can't breath anymore to have a good drag. So it is not really fun!

Also I still have to adjust with the e-juice. I ordered a couple of samples from a vendor that someone here have recommended me, and now I am getting familiar with the flavor and the percentage of PG-PV. I have now tried the menthol, the strawberry and cherry. I will have to try the tobacco and Vanilla. I didn't ordered any juices with 100% PG. I have only tried the 50-50% and the 100% VG. All in medium doses (15 mg).
I don't like the 100% VG. It doesn't give me any feeling of what you call throat hit (I think?) So I feel like I'm dragging air. Does not satisfy me at all! The 50-50% is a little bit better, but the one I have tried in cherry still gives me that feeling of dragging air.
So like I said, I don't know why this happen.

Is it because I need to change the carto (already??, I only have used the e-cig a little bit in one week). I do not think it is because the batterie is discharge (I just charge it and it still do the same thing) Is it because I did not put enough juice (I doubt it because I did like we suppose to do in the Volt video and it still does the same thing right after I refill it). Or is it because of the juice? (Not enough nicotine or too low PG percentage) The last one is my best theory, don't you think?

So like I said I am still trying to adjust myself with the e-cigarette.
I didn't stop completely the analogs yet, but I reduced my smoking to 3-5 cigarettes a day instead of 12-15 this week! (I smoked for almost 10 years) I had a little more yesterday night cause I took alcohol and there were too much smokers around me, but I am still proud of myself! Today I had no pack of cigarettes on me so I had like 3 cigarettes and I am ok! The only thing is I think the e-juice is not appropriate for me and that I feel like I am dragging air! Like I have to take a biiiiig drag till I can't breath anymore to feel something! This sucks! My cheeks almost hurt :s

So if anyone could help me with that it would be really nice!!

 

[GhosT81]

Canadian E-cigarette Happy/Joye eGo Starter Kit - Black, Silver, White, Titanium

This is a canadian vendor I've heard good things about. The ego is a good starte kit.

 

[martinc]

I`d say get 2;
a 510 and something like an eGo-T.

510s are more portable and discreet where the eGo-Ts are more of a bigger,more high-tech satisfying device.

I know a lot of older people that dont have internet and hook them up with 510s then let them try my eGo-t...they end up using both and all quit analogs!
Best achievement is that women that been smoking for 50 yrs

I am not a vendor,in fact,I buy them and resell them to all those people without making a dime :/

makes me feel good inside at the approach of xmas!

 

[mynameisrob]

Congrats Bambie! Dont beat yourself up if you have a cig or 2. Just cause you got your PV doesnt mean you will stop right away. Most people will wean off. The less cigs you smoke the more your tastebuds will come back and after alittle thats when most people really start to think cigs taste like crap and stop completely. So keep going your making awesome progress!!
I would refill your cartos when the flavor and vapor starts to drop off some. You dont want them to get too dry so its never a bad idea to just keep topping them off. For how long they will last it all depends. They are made to be disposible. The juice your using will affect how long they last. Some people only get a few days out of one and some a few weeks. I use the Ressurectors and get on avg 2-4 weeks from one, but thats pretty long. If you get a week to ten days thats not bad. Normally people switch to a new one when it starts to loose flavor or it starts to clog up. When your not happy with the airflow anymore, switch to a new one. The more you use your ecig the better youll get with it. It will become easier to know when it needs a refilling and a new carto, etc. VG dulls flavor and TH some so thats why your not getting as much with 100%VG juices. PG gives better TH and flavor, but doesnt produce as much vapor. Thats why people normally like a combination of the 2. Try 80%PG/20%VG. Thats a popular ratio that gives good TH but still produces good vapor. A higher nic % will also give some more TH. I would try the 80/20 first and then if thats still not enough, try upping the nic %.
If you want to know when you should change your battery you could get a multimeter. Then you could see what its at and could throw it back on the charger when it gets to around 25%left. You can get the one madvapes sells on ebay for $3-4 bucks. Its not a bad deal at all and works well. Youll be able to check the ohms of your cartos too so you can see what their really at. That will help you catch DOA ones too so you dont waste juice.

You shouldnt have to drag on your ecig really hard. Do you have a manual or auto battery? The manuals are nice bc you can push the button a second or 2 before you take a drag to warm up the atty and create some vapor.

Goodluck and keep it going!

 

[mynameisrob]

If you do get a bigger battery PV I wouldnt get the eGo-T. The tank can be really finicky and leak. ALso the ego tanks dull flavor and TH. The tanks were a good concept, but were poorly executed. I would get a regular eGo and use cartos or get a3.7V PV like the Riva SE , E-Power, or kGo and use cartomizers.

 

[bwalls797]

I started with pin style then went to egos then mods

 

[bobsyeruncle]

Ok. The Volt will give you a warmer vape than a regular eGo. The battery doesn't last as long, however. You might be happy with a PCC to keep that battery charged if you haven't already got one.

I usually recommend a Volt to the American newcomers because it's priced relatively cheaply and performs well. But, it's a KR808D-1 model and there are lots of vendors for kits and accessories.

When you're ordering juice, a good mix is 70% PG / 30% VG. 100% VG is like syrup and it takes longer to wick properly. You'll also get more throat hit and more flavour with PG.

You may find there are certain times of the day when you need more nicotine. Like first thing in the morning. If you're normally ok with say 18mg, you might consider having a cartomizer filled with 24mg for those certain times of the day.

Your cartomizers are about 1.5 ml. They can hold about 30 to 35 drops of juice easily, but you have to work that juice in there. I just drip down the side away from the center hole and then shake the carto like a thermometer to work that juice into the filler so I can drip some more. When the top of the carto looks like a slushie and stops soaking up juice, you're done.

Your cartomizers are meant to be disposable, that is they're only supposed to work until you run out of juice the first time. However, if you keep them wet, i.e. periodically top them off before you vape them dry, you may be able to keep them working for quite a while. If you get a burnt taste from them, however, they're done.

When you're vaping, just take a slow easy drag. A hard pull, like you would use on a cigarette, doesn't really work for e-cigarettes. Breathe in from deep in your chest if you need to take a long drag, i.e. longer than 3 seconds. Breathing in hard doesn't help, but keeping your inhale going longer will get more vapour into your lungs. If you run up against the 5-second cutoff with no satisfaction, try stopping mid inhale and then continuing to get a longer vape.

Cdnvapor.ca has KR808D-1 (aka 808) accessories if you're interested. HappyVaper is also a great source of supplies, but they sell Bloogs (808), which are pricey.

I think you just need to ask more questions about your current kit and juice before diving into yet another kit. It sounds like your problem isn't so much that you need an eGo right now, but that you may still have a few misunderstandings about making the most of your current kit.

 

[Bambie]

Congrats Bambie! Dont beat yourself up if you have a cig or 2. Just cause you got your PV doesnt mean you will stop right away. Most people will wean off. The less cigs you smoke the more your tastebuds will come back and after alittle thats when most people really start to think cigs taste like crap and stop completely. So keep going your making awesome progress!!
I would refill your cartos when the flavor and vapor starts to drop off some. You dont want them to get too dry so its never a bad idea to just keep topping them off. For how long they will last it all depends. They are made to be disposible. The juice your using will affect how long they last. Some people only get a few days out of one and some a few weeks. I use the Ressurectors and get on avg 2-4 weeks from one, but thats pretty long. If you get a week to ten days thats not bad. Normally people switch to a new one when it starts to loose flavor or it starts to clog up. When your not happy with the airflow anymore, switch to a new one. The more you use your ecig the better youll get with it. It will become easier to know when it needs a refilling and a new carto, etc. VG dulls flavor and TH some so thats why your not getting as much with 100%VG juices. PG gives better TH and flavor, but doesnt produce as much vapor. Thats why people normally like a combination of the 2. Try 80%PG/20%VG. Thats a popular ratio that gives good TH but still produces good vapor. A higher nic % will also give some more TH. I would try the 80/20 first and then if thats still not enough, try upping the nic %.
If you want to know when you should change your battery you could get a multimeter. Then you could see what its at and could throw it back on the charger when it gets to around 25%left. You can get the one madvapes sells on ebay for $3-4 bucks. Its not a bad deal at all and works well. Youll be able to check the ohms of your cartos too so you can see what their really at. That will help you catch DOA ones too so you dont waste juice.

You shouldnt have to drag on your ecig really hard. Do you have a manual or auto battery? The manuals are nice bc you can push the button a second or 2 before you take a drag to warm up the atty and create some vapor.

Goodluck and keep it going!

Ok so I just changed the cartomizer for a new one and it works very well! I think that was the problem! Next time I buy e-juice I will definitely try a ratio with more PG and less Vg like 80-20% and maybe one with more nicotine for the morning when I really feel like smoking
The seller I have bought my e-cig from has been nice enough to give me an extra manual batterie + the 2 automatics that was included, so I have been able to try the both. I love the manual because like you said you push the button 2 seconds and a good vapor will be waiting for you so you don't have to drag to much! The automatic are more like a real cigarette.

Thank you again and sorry for my writing I am french canadian

 

[Bambie]

Ok. The Volt will give you a warmer vape than a regular eGo. The battery doesn't last as long, however. You might be happy with a PCC to keep that battery charged if you haven't already got one.

I usually recommend a Volt to the American newcomers because it's priced relatively cheaply and performs well. But, it's a KR808D-1 model and there are lots of vendors for kits and accessories.

When you're ordering juice, a good mix is 70% PG / 30% VG. 100% VG is like syrup and it takes longer to wick properly. You'll also get more throat hit and more flavour with PG.

You may find there are certain times of the day when you need more nicotine. Like first thing in the morning. If you're normally ok with say 18mg, you might consider having a cartomizer filled with 24mg for those certain times of the day.

Your cartomizers are about 1.5 ml. They can hold about 30 to 35 drops of juice easily, but you have to work that juice in there. I just drip down the side away from the center hole and then shake the carto like a thermometer to work that juice into the filler so I can drip some more. When the top of the carto looks like a slushie and stops soaking up juice, you're done.

Your cartomizers are meant to be disposable, that is they're only supposed to work until you run out of juice the first time. However, if you keep them wet, i.e. periodically top them off before you vape them dry, you may be able to keep them working for quite a while. If you get a burnt taste from them, however, they're done.

When you're vaping, just take a slow easy drag. A hard pull, like you would use on a cigarette, doesn't really work for e-cigarettes. Breathe in from deep in your chest if you need to take a long drag, i.e. longer than 3 seconds. Breathing in hard doesn't help, but keeping your inhale going longer will get more vapour into your lungs. If you run up against the 5-second cutoff with no satisfaction, try stopping mid inhale and then continuing to get a longer vape.

Cdnvapor.ca has KR808D-1 (aka 808) accessories if you're interested. HappyVaper is also a great source of supplies, but they sell Bloogs (808), which are pricey.

I think you just need to ask more questions about your current kit and juice before diving into yet another kit. It sounds like your problem isn't so much that you need an eGo right now, but that you may still have a few misunderstandings about making the most of your current kit.

Hello bobsyeruncle!
Thanks for your answer.

I did bought the PCC and I am happy about it! Like this I am not stressed to run out of power.

You said it's a KR808D-1 model, is that mean that I can buy cartomizer from this model even if it is not a Volt brand with the same batteries? Because the shipping from where I bought the Volt are high and it is the only dealer in Canada for this brand. So if I can buy it somwhere else I would be happy.

You really put 30 to 35 drops inthe carto????? I thought it was 3-4 drops maximum??

 

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