BEHOLD: The absolute perfect tobacco flavoring and nicotine extraction method.
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It worked for me, I ran some roll yer own tobacco, dried & crumbled through a small 4-cup Mr. Coffee machine, let the pot sit on the warmer to evaporate it down from 4 cups to about 1/2 cup or less. Resulting in a very dark tobaccoey smelling liquid. I don't know how much nicotine is in it but I used about 1 1/2 oz tobacco so started with around 200mg nic, though I doubt if it got all of it from brewing. Here's another method I'm trying now, looks good so far, just takes longer.
How To Prepare Glycerine Tincture
Thanks Harry. Good info.
Hate to ruin a can of Skoal but sounds like it might work.
I got a beaker some glycerin and my oden snus and made up a 50ml batch. I don't know if it's any good or not. I am blogging about extracting this stuff. I hope it will work 
I used a pinch of citric acid in 50mg of VG wth 6 pouches of 17mg snus. I heated the stuff up n a water bath so everything would not go over 100c. I have to get a candy thermometer so I can judge just how hot everything is. My husband showed me the boiling water trick thing to ensure the temp of the glycerin did not go over 100c (which is the boiling point of water, apparently). It made dark caramel colored goo. I bottled it all in a clean brown tinted bottle and stashed it in my pantry. I am going to wait 20 days and sample what kind of mess I have made
I used a pinch of citric acid in 50mg of VG wth 6 pouches of 17mg snus. I heated the stuff up n a water bath so everything would not go over 100c. I have to get a candy thermometer so I can judge just how hot everything is. My husband showed me the boiling water trick thing to ensure the temp of the glycerin did not go over 100c (which is the boiling point of water, apparently). It made dark caramel colored goo. I bottled it all in a clean brown tinted bottle and stashed it in my pantry. I am going to wait 20 days and sample what kind of mess I have made
Now that's interesting Faethe.I got a beaker some glycerin and my oden snus and made up a 50ml batch. I don't know if it's any good or not. I am blogging about extracting this stuff. I hope it will work
I couldn't put it in the pantry around here though.
Someone would wind up with it on their ice cream.
Now that's interesting Faethe.
I couldn't put it in the pantry around here though.
Someone would wind up with it on their ice cream.
Lol! I have my own personal shelf for mad chemistry now
For my next trick, I might try a 50/50 solution of distilled water and VG to try and extract caffeine/tea taste from some PG tips. I love tea flavors Vaping them sounds like fun. You know, the thing is that yeah - the VG really is bland. Or maybe it just takes a really long time to leech stuff out with it. I can try the evaporation thing with the tea bag, meaning boil off the water so the tea goodness concentrates in the VG. I did not want to try that with nicotine because you know, if you screw up, you can poop yourself That's just not how I roll (not since I was 2 or so ).
bumping this thread because I'm really interested in how these experiments turned out for you guys...I haven't tried this method yet but I'm really thinking about it.
On a side note, I used to smoke cigars quite a bit and I still have a bunch of real cubans (don't ask). Anyway I love the taste of cuban cigars and was curious about trying a flavor/nicotine extraction using one, but at the same time I don't want to destroy a finely crafted cuban if its going to turn out nasty to vape lol.
On a side note, I used to smoke cigars quite a bit and I still have a bunch of real cubans (don't ask). Anyway I love the taste of cuban cigars and was curious about trying a flavor/nicotine extraction using one, but at the same time I don't want to destroy a finely crafted cuban if its going to turn out nasty to vape lol.
Aw, we can get real Cubans at the supermarket, anyone just let me know if you want one in the post the joys of not embargoing small 3rd world nations.
So having read this thread I was inspired to do a little experiment that worked out quite well, in my opinion.
I took a 95ml former mouthwash bottle (no idea what that is in real money, not big, not tiny) and stuffed it halfway full with coarse shag (haha) RYO tobacco. I wet that down with about 10ml vodka and let it sit for an hour or two.
Stuff was leeching out into the vodka so I topped it up with about 50ml VG and let that sit for 24 hours, giving it a shake occasionally.
After that time had a straw coloured liquid that smelled tobaccoey and was pretty much e-liquid consistency. I drew a few drops off with a syringe and gave it a vape. I got a fairly good tobacco flavour, loads of vape but it tasted a bit 'organic' if you catch my drift. In went a few drops of vanilla essence and a few drops of rum flavouring.
So while it had been sitting all day I had been thinking that nothing goes quite as well with tobacco as a coffee (apart from single malt but there's no way I'm vaping Laphroaig) so into the bottle went another good 5 rollies worth of baccy and a big spoon of coarse ground Java. I topped up the bottle to about 90ml with VG and let it sit again, for another 24 hours. Shake, shake, sit, sit.
When I got home from work and opened it up and had a sniff I nearly passed out from bliss. I filtered it through a coffee filter paper, then squeezed the rest out from the solids though a cotton wool bung'd syringe.
The results - 70ml of strongly flavoured liquid, dark like cola, tastes yummy, appreciable throat hit if taken in a long slow hit with a little air through the corner of the mouth. I cant imagine it has a very high nicotine content but I can see this being a highly sessionable liquid for in the evening - it tastes great, produces lots of vapour and is very satisfying. It's likely to become my liquid of choice for when I'm sat in front of the computer with a passthrough and vaping frequently.
I have a second batch brewing, I'm going to leave it for much longer this time, as I now have as much liquid as I can deal with at the moment. Is it worth putting half a tin of snuff in there to boost the nic content, do you think? It would need more filtering I reckon?
So, anyhow, TL;DR home made liquid, a few quid for 70ml, tasty as anything but no idea of nicotine content, or whether that even matters! Comments?
the joys of not embargoing small 3rd world nations.So having read this thread I was inspired to do a little experiment that worked out quite well, in my opinion.
I took a 95ml former mouthwash bottle (no idea what that is in real money, not big, not tiny) and stuffed it halfway full with coarse shag (haha) RYO tobacco. I wet that down with about 10ml vodka and let it sit for an hour or two.
Stuff was leeching out into the vodka so I topped it up with about 50ml VG and let that sit for 24 hours, giving it a shake occasionally.
After that time had a straw coloured liquid that smelled tobaccoey and was pretty much e-liquid consistency. I drew a few drops off with a syringe and gave it a vape. I got a fairly good tobacco flavour, loads of vape but it tasted a bit 'organic' if you catch my drift. In went a few drops of vanilla essence and a few drops of rum flavouring.
So while it had been sitting all day I had been thinking that nothing goes quite as well with tobacco as a coffee (apart from single malt but there's no way I'm vaping Laphroaig) so into the bottle went another good 5 rollies worth of baccy and a big spoon of coarse ground Java. I topped up the bottle to about 90ml with VG and let it sit again, for another 24 hours. Shake, shake, sit, sit.
When I got home from work and opened it up and had a sniff I nearly passed out from bliss. I filtered it through a coffee filter paper, then squeezed the rest out from the solids though a cotton wool bung'd syringe.
The results - 70ml of strongly flavoured liquid, dark like cola, tastes yummy, appreciable throat hit if taken in a long slow hit with a little air through the corner of the mouth. I cant imagine it has a very high nicotine content but I can see this being a highly sessionable liquid for in the evening - it tastes great, produces lots of vapour and is very satisfying. It's likely to become my liquid of choice for when I'm sat in front of the computer with a passthrough and vaping frequently.
I have a second batch brewing, I'm going to leave it for much longer this time, as I now have as much liquid as I can deal with at the moment. Is it worth putting half a tin of snuff in there to boost the nic content, do you think? It would need more filtering I reckon?
So, anyhow, TL;DR home made liquid, a few quid for 70ml, tasty as anything but no idea of nicotine content, or whether that even matters! Comments?
Aw, we can get real Cubans at the supermarket, anyone just let me know if you want one in the post
So having read this thread I was inspired to do a little experiment that worked out quite well, in my opinion.
I took a 95ml former mouthwash bottle (no idea what that is in real money, not big, not tiny) and stuffed it halfway full with coarse shag (haha) RYO tobacco. I wet that down with about 10ml vodka and let it sit for an hour or two.
Stuff was leeching out into the vodka so I topped it up with about 50ml VG and let that sit for 24 hours, giving it a shake occasionally.
After that time had a straw coloured liquid that smelled tobaccoey and was pretty much e-liquid consistency. I drew a few drops off with a syringe and gave it a vape. I got a fairly good tobacco flavour, loads of vape but it tasted a bit 'organic' if you catch my drift. In went a few drops of vanilla essence and a few drops of rum flavouring.
So while it had been sitting all day I had been thinking that nothing goes quite as well with tobacco as a coffee (apart from single malt but there's no way I'm vaping Laphroaig) so into the bottle went another good 5 rollies worth of baccy and a big spoon of coarse ground Java. I topped up the bottle to about 90ml with VG and let it sit again, for another 24 hours. Shake, shake, sit, sit.
When I got home from work and opened it up and had a sniff I nearly passed out from bliss. I filtered it through a coffee filter paper, then squeezed the rest out from the solids though a cotton wool bung'd syringe.
The results - 70ml of strongly flavoured liquid, dark like cola, tastes yummy, appreciable throat hit if taken in a long slow hit with a little air through the corner of the mouth. I cant imagine it has a very high nicotine content but I can see this being a highly sessionable liquid for in the evening - it tastes great, produces lots of vapour and is very satisfying. It's likely to become my liquid of choice for when I'm sat in front of the computer with a passthrough and vaping frequently.
I have a second batch brewing, I'm going to leave it for much longer this time, as I now have as much liquid as I can deal with at the moment. Is it worth putting half a tin of snuff in there to boost the nic content, do you think? It would need more filtering I reckon?
So, anyhow, TL;DR home made liquid, a few quid for 70ml, tasty as anything but no idea of nicotine content, or whether that even matters! Comments?
nice! How does the taste of your home brew compare to that of say a camel or marlboro flavor that you would purchase from a company? I enjoy TW's camel flavor but it doesn't really taste like a cig to me. I'm curious if what you made tastes more like the real thing when you vape it?
It tastes a bit like having a rollie with an espresso, but sweet due to the glycerine, so a sugary espresso. I cant compare it to camel or marlboro flavour liquids (not had 'em), but it's nicer than the generic 'tobacco' flavour.
But I would say that, it's my recipe!!
But I would say that, it's my recipe!!
I found an article on how to get pure nicotine when I googled it and I'm wondering if anyone has tried this before I do:
You take a can of skoal and put in a water glass and cover with water and leave soaking for 24 hrs. then you take a cloth (it said hankerchief) and place it in a second water glass with it hanging over the rim (make a sieve out of it) pour the tobacco mixture into the cloth and tighten into ball and squeeze until all liquid is removed from tobacco.
After getting all the liquid put it in a pan and boil it down to a syrup over med. heat. It should be pure nicotine left according to the article and would have to be diluted with PG/VG as it would be POISON! It sounds pretty easy and it said chewing tobacco would work too. It should have a strong tobacco taste.
What do you guys think?
You take a can of skoal and put in a water glass and cover with water and leave soaking for 24 hrs. then you take a cloth (it said hankerchief) and place it in a second water glass with it hanging over the rim (make a sieve out of it) pour the tobacco mixture into the cloth and tighten into ball and squeeze until all liquid is removed from tobacco.
After getting all the liquid put it in a pan and boil it down to a syrup over med. heat. It should be pure nicotine left according to the article and would have to be diluted with PG/VG as it would be POISON! It sounds pretty easy and it said chewing tobacco would work too. It should have a strong tobacco taste.
What do you guys think?
Sounds like an interesting plan, in terms of getting flavour and kick, but I wouldn't base any calulations on that syrup being pure nicotine...snus has lots of other ingredients, and how syrupy is your syrup? Anything that's still got water in isn't going to be 100% pure anything.
Not just vaping it. If you touch it, bad things could happen. This is why most of us are going for some sort of passive or cold extraction method to get nicotine. Any time you do evaporation you are concentrating what's left. A whole tin of Skoal probably has a good deal of nicotine in it. If you concentrate that down to lets say 30ml including additives and debris, you could have a fairly strong concentration of better than 10%. Know that we vape 3.9% nicotine. If you triple that, I should think safe handling would become an issue.
The reason why I use snus is that they have measured portions - at least the Swedish ones do. They also have almost no additives. There are three ingredients in the whole tin and one is tobacco. I can't read it or else I'd tell you what the others are
BTW I did do an evaporation method with some spearmint I have growing in the yard. 100ml of VG, 100ml of filtered water (good filter) and a lot of raw spearmint (a bunch. Very scientific!). I was able to set the beaker right on the stove top. The VG takes a while to boil as it seems to have a higher boil rate than water. I was also very careful (at my husband's insistence) not to heat it all too fast.
This is because the lower layer, the oil (it separates) boils up through the water. If you heat it too fast, the lower layer will 'explode' through the top layer and spew boiling water all over the place. Nice, huh? If you do it a little bit at a time then let it simmer gently, it's actually quite pleasent
The VG boils up through the water and helps to evaporate the water off. You are done when the water layer, or however much you added in (100ml in my case) has evaporated.I was using whole plants so I probably did not get all the water out. I am going for a tincture of spearmint, not trying to boil all the oil out of it. It smells nice. And now it has to sit for 20 days.
Apparently VG needs a lot of time to do it's work. I did the spearmint because I can add that into stuff (Laundry soap, cosmetics) to make it smell better. I guess I could vape it, too.
Next will be some PG tips for tea/caffiene flavor. It seems everyone is having good results with coffee. I hope it works with tea. I'll make a blog post with measurements and stuff. I am going to do the evaporation method to make a tea tincture. And yeah, it all gets to sit some place dark for twenty days afterward.
The snus extraction I did a few days ago has gotten very, very dark. I can't see through the liquid any longer. I did not boil the VG with that one. Nor did I add water. I 'warmed up' the VG by putting the beaker in a boiling water bath so the temp never exceeded 100c. After 100c could be some issues with the VG turning into acrolyene so I avoided that. I think
i am very eager to try this method... i am a total noob to making my own juices but have already scoped out pg and vg so i really just need to decide what snus to get... i willl try to get my hands on some swedish stuff ...i want you all to take a look at this Investigations Into the Extraction of Nicotine From Tobacco article it is HUGE and could hold the answer to extraction as far as percentages, mg's, etc... i read about 3 pages and skimmed the rest but i plan to read it in depth before i try to extract with anything but snus...
Day 7: I popped open my little batch of brew and it stinks. I vaped it.
Oh yeah. It works.
//2 weeks to go.
Oh yeah. It works.
//2 weeks to go.
Have you folks considered using alcohol (grain alcohol) to extract and adding VP/PG and letting the alcohol evaporate off?
I guess the question is alcohol a better extractor of what we want to extract that glycerins? Namely flavor and nicotine?
All the folks that extract from that "other" popular smoking substance seem to use grain alcohol, or even butane for extraction...
Though distilled water is a very good solvent as well for many things.
I guess the question is alcohol a better extractor of what we want to extract that glycerins? Namely flavor and nicotine?
All the folks that extract from that "other" popular smoking substance seem to use grain alcohol, or even butane for extraction...
Though distilled water is a very good solvent as well for many things.
Wonder how much nicotine would evap with the alcohol
I have tried the camel snus and pg as suggested in this thread and it does have an excellent tobacco taste to it. I doubled my snus though
This thread is giving me ideas now...maybe some of the snus I have that I'm not crazy about using could actually be interesting when vaped! Specifically, the "goat rape" stuff. Might just have to give this a try!
No. That's a proper extraction and I am very very worried to do that because Nicotine is so very potent. Feel free to do it yourself. The *other substance* you are mentioning will not harm you at higher potency. Nicotine will.
This is from my ECF Blog. I have had success. The way I did it is all on my blog. Your mileage may vary. I am not sick. It works.
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By the ..... goddesses saggy teat I have made snu Juice. I got into it tonight. Could not help myself. Oh sweet Jesus this stuff is incredibly strong - MUCH too strong. This has to be somewhere North of 36mg.
Uncapped, poured through very fine metal strainer into beaker. Pulled out snu packets and squeezed out with garlic press. The liquid was dark and viscous. There were some 'dregs' from the snus. The juice is mostly a clear dark caramel color. It smells just like tobacco absolute.
I capped it in a 50ml graduated beaker then got out my collection of snu toyz.
In a small 3ml bottle (I think I got from Johnson Creek??) I put in 1.5 ml snu juice, 1 ml pg and .5 ml cinnamon essential oil diluted in vodka.
That was completely disgusting. Never never never never do more than a few drops of essential oil. If you are laughing, you should be.
I mixed in a little more PG. Vaped. Still too much bloody cinnamon, but OMFG is this stuff strong. Set my head spinning. Thereafter was a frenzy of a drop of snu juice here, a little vanilla there, some more PG. It's still disgusting (and not in a good way). The cinnamon has fouled it up and made it useless.
However, in conclusion, I now have 50ml of some incredibly potent stuff. I spilled it on myself and am OK. No effects. Only from vaping it. So safe handling *appears* to not be an issue with this method.
So yes. Make your own nic juice. It's possible. I feel OK (if very dizzy).
As for mixing it to your own specs - the snu juice has a nice tobacco undertone (it did before I ruined it, anyway). The swedish snus do not appear to have any flavoring agents (thank God!). So have a blast.
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