Big FDA Annoucemnent today making news !!

[steven36]

you can buy tobacco online it just cant be shipped usps and must be signed for by an adult

 

[Maiahmae]

Maybe there will be a market for "add your own flavoring" if such a thing happened. Just PG and Nic... a sudo DIY. Still regulated but a "plain" flavor or "original" flavor as a work around.

ETA that would open up a side venture to sell flavorings. Just saying.

 

[Kanza]

I already use flavorings when I want to "up" the taste of some of my milder vapes so that's no problem since the best ones are sold as cake/cookie/candy supplies and they can't regulate/tax those as e-cig components. Can you imagine all the bakers having a screaming fit because their LorAnn products are now double or triple the price?

 

[Who_Wants_To_Know]

I am fine with paying taxes on e-cigs, if that's what it really take to keep big greedment happy. I just don't want to see flavors being forced into diy or eliminated totally. There are a lot of good people who make their living off of juice flavors. So many companies would be hurt by this. I don't want to see that.

The wow nuport is the only flavor I vape from V4L that might be safe if they try and limit the flavoring to ones that taste like cigarettes. If they even allow that given menthol's current bind. I love a lot of V4L flavors, but it would really limit my options. Even I can only buy so many batteries.

 

[Traver]

True. But you have no idea what a klutz I am.

All my high school chemistry labs failed to work "properly."

If I tried vaping DIY, I could really hurt myself . . . or even the neighbors!

There are different levels of DIY. You can buy something like 30 ml of 30pg/70vg at 24 mg of nicotine and a bottle of flavor. Then add 30 or 40 drops of flavor to your juice and shake. How hard is that?

If the FDA bans flavored juice all of these companies that sell ready to go juice will just sell the juice and their flavors in separate bottles. They will make it easy to do.

 

[hersch]

The FDA is going to get there way regardless I think, and taxes on ecigs and ejuice..
Hell I'll just give up vaporing if it comes to that..

I think the FDA in trying another maneuver to get there hold on it all...

 

[trichman]

Aren't cigarettes only allowed to be in tobacco and menthol flavors? If they regulate ecigs the same as cigarettes, that would be the conclusion you might come to. That would take some of the fun out of ecigs IMO. Keep Hope Alive!

 

[Maxwell_Edison]

My hunch is e-cigs will be put in a smokeless tobacco type class of their own. We just won't know much because I don't think anything will change regulation wise for a couple years. I hope they don't classify them as a cigarette, I'm hoping they don't and trying to be optimistic they can't do it. That the FDA will try to make money from them is a no-brainer though. Just how much they'll mess with it is completely unknown right now.

 

[Joyce]

I don't understand either--Regulate like a tobacco product? No relationship between e cigs and tobacco products except nicotine. There is nicotine in lots of vegetables. Why not same regulation as vegetable products? I just get cold chills thinking the government is going to get involved. When they get involved it means the end of common sense, and the beginning of greedy, bureacratic b.s. Hope this drags on forever while they try to get as much money as possible from all involved in e cigs. Need to stock up before they regulate the devil out of our products.

Government regulation was inevitable. This is the lesser of the evils, because the FDA wanted to regulate as a drug, as most of you know, which would have virtually banned the product, or made it unavailable for years. While I'm sorry to see the gubmint get its grubby hands in, I'd rather have it this way than the other.

 

[krazie_Kid]

The only thing I can say is time will tell, hopefully the gobment will keep its fat greedy hands off.

 

[TheScootness]

Here's a great explanation of this from another thread:

The reason we wanted e-cigs to be classified as a tobacco product is that they will not have to go through the extreme trials and tests that would be required if they were classified as drug delivery devices. Had they been classified as drug delivery devices they would have immediately been pulled from all markets until such time as all appropriate tests and trials had been completed (which could take up to 8 years) and then those who wished to do so and could afford the extremely high fee that the FDA charges to approve new drugs, then they could have been returned to the market.

By classifying them as tobacco products, they remain on the market and the FDA will work towards appropriate regulations that will apply to them. This is one of the roles that CASAA will play in attempting to insure that the FDA regulates them appropriately. CASAA will also be important in the contacting of all parties who will eventually be involved in determining how and how much taxation will be placed on e-cigs and e-juice. There are no 100% guarantees that the powers that be will play fair, but CASAA will be on the front lines fighting for the rights of all users of smoke-free alternatives

 

[krazie_Kid]

Hey TheScootness this seems decent, but I am still afraid of what the future will hold for us.

 

[timothy]

it looks like this might open some doors but the big boys might jump in

 

[Traver]

If anyone is interested below is a link to the actual letter by the FDA:

Regulation of E-Cigarettes and Other Tobacco Products

 

[jtcaseyjr]

it looks like this might open some doors but the big boys might jump in

Besides being taxed to oblivion, this is my second biggest worry. If big tobacco jumps in it is sure to hit the little guys pretty hard, as they have money and lots of it.

 

[EleanorR]

There are different levels of DIY. You can buy something like 30 ml of 30pg/70vg at 24 mg of nicotine and a bottle of flavor. Then add 30 or 40 drops of flavor to your juice and shake. How hard is that?

If the FDA bans flavored juice all of these companies that sell ready to go juice will just sell the juice and their flavors in separate bottles. They will make it easy to do.

I hope that Big Nanny Government doesn't ban pre-made flavored e-liquids, but you're right, what you describe sounds so simple that even I could manage it.

 

[Biomom]

If anyone is interested below is a link to the actual letter by the FDA:

Regulation of E-Cigarettes and Other Tobacco Products

That might make sense to some big corporations' lawyers, but it's a farce to claim it as information for the public. Are e-cigs "grandfathered" since they were marketed "before 2007"? I wouldn't mind, but it would be helpful for us and all of the doubters if some sensible measures were taken to ensure safety, especially of products that come from China (in light of the lead paint on toys, etc). Sadly the government rarely goes for sensible or common sense.

I feel like this issue is really anyone's guess as to what will happen. It is comforting the CASAA will be at the front of the game, and the more people who use e-cigs, the better it ensures the future of something truly helpful to so many!