Blue Foam PLUG! UPDATED v2.0 "THE SLUG" - The Search is over!

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kristin

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Kristin, interesting mod if i understand it right.. though not nessisary with this foam i'm using and the help of the inner lip/ledge in the 510 cart.

Though, someone with a 801 cart may just want to try that straw out as it sounds like it would totally hold the foam if cut to the right length needed. :)
The advantage is that the plug sits higher than the ridges, if you cut the straw right, allowing more room for more liquid. But it may actually be a wash, because the straw displaces some liquid.

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Weird... I see the pics fine. Basically the guy cut a sliver off the white cap (aka "condom") that comes over the end of the 510 cart. This gives him a rubbery flexible ring, which he put into the cart sideways. It's hard to explain without the pics though.


I think you have to get an extra straw at every restaurant you go to, and find one that fits. Let us know. Then the e-cig community will raid every one of those restaurants across the globe, stealing straws. LOL.
 

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Basically the guy cut a sliver off the white cap (aka "condom") that comes over the end of the 510 cart. This gives him a rubbery flexible ring, which he put into the cart sideways. It's hard to explain without the pics though.
No, I get it! That's clever, if it holds!

I think the drinking straws you can buy at the grocery store would work - they are usually not as wide as restaurant straws. I'm going to the store later anyhow. I'll check.
 

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I just tried this. A Mcdonald's straw was too wide in diameter to fit into the cart, so I cut it lengthwise and cut a piece out. It ended up sort of coiling in on itself. I cut it to be a few mm below the top of the cart. I got about 15 drops in, until it was just over the top of the straw.

For a plug I used a piece of a greenie scrubbing pad. I pressed the end of the cart onto the pad and it held the outline to follow. I snipped a piece off just a tiny bit larger, so it seals the top well. Then I squeezed the filler into the cart above the straw. I pressed it in to sop up the fluid just above the straw line.

So far, it's not flooding, no liquid in the mouth and it's vaping really well. No funny taste from the greenie material, either.

If I can find a straw size that is larger in diameter than a coffee straw, but smaller than a Micky D's straw, it would be even easier!

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Carefull, the atty bridge goes deeper into the cart then most realize. I tried to attach the same pic editied with a marker for the bridge level.

Hope it works.

EDIT: ofcourse not.. cant figure out the forms picture managment system so.. old school way it is. heh.

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Noticed something with my mod. When you take the plug out to refill. Make sure to pat the plug a little so it will go back into its normal shape. If not you wont know which way is the right way to insert it back in. I noticed when i just inserted the plug back in that the atty flooded a hair. I was like whaa? Didnt happen at all last night. Then i pulled it out and thought maybe i didnt have it the right way in and it was turned on its side. Touched the plug a couple of times with the tweezers and sure enough it expanded back into its original shape and i didnt have it in right. It was turned on its side. hard to tell as the foam is so thick at stock it looks right but it was'nt.

Still have yet to count the amount of hits i can get out of it before its dry.. though i'm sure that will be different for everyone as everyone vaps differently and some take larger hits then others. Dont feel like having a massive nic buzz if i tried to just puff down on it all at once. hehe. Might need to pull out the no nic.

I guess i could just somehow remember how many hits each time i vap and keep count. Prob better to have a pad a paper handy to jot it down.
 

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You're going to kill yourself if you try to count hits. Keep it simple, count hours. :D

I filled my carts when I headed to work at 8 AM (I carry a Prodigy and a Chuck at all times). I won't refill until 5 when I leave to go home. And the only reason I'll do that is to make sure that I don't run dry on the drive home, because dripping at 85mph is kinda stupid.
 

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Carefull, the atty bridge goes deeper into the cart then most realize. I tried to attach the same pic editied with a marker for the bridge level.

Hope it works.

EDIT: ofcourse not.. cant figure out the forms picture managment system so.. old school way it is. heh.

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Yes, there is an indent in the plug after use, but (from my understanding) the bridge doesn't get hot, it's a wick to take it to the heating element. This way, the bridge wick is sort of surrounded by the plug material and kept wet.

You do need to make sure the plug isn't compressed too much so it's "hard" and starts bending your bridge.
 

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Kristin, i did this straw thing yesterday with straws from MC, because they are somewhat fixed in length, the bridge could be deformed or the cart does not fit right.

sooo, i cut the straw from the end that goes to the bottom of the cart with scissors a few times halfway up. i hope this way it has a similar effect than the rubber&spring.

worked too, but flooded at least one atomizer. thats why i tried today with the rubber cap. maybe your greenie pad holds the liquid a bit better back than polyfil.
 
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Concept only. I have no idea if this will work. I felt like playing with scissors, but don't feel like playing with a cart.


Cut a straw too long to fit into a cart.
Make 4 cuts, ending each slightly below where the bottom of the foam will be. The red "Atty bridge Level" line that eclypse added, I guess.
Bend two sides outwards.
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Cut those sides off

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Bend the other two tabs outwards

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Make a couple diamond cuts, taking chunks of straw out of the sides
And a couple v cuts from the bottom
Theoretically these will help juice flow, but may be unnecessary

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Now insert the straw, bent flaps up. They should provide a little bit of spring action to push the filter up towards the bridge. And maybe form the filter into a V to "cradle" the bridge.


Just an idea.
 

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I've been taking a pipe screen, folding it 3 ways into a "N" shape (or a "Z" shape, if you prefer), and stuffing it down the cart so the "crossbar" of the N (or Z) runs down the middle of the cart, then perching a small amount of filler (I use wool) on top of that.

I'm still perfecting it (getting the density right, etc.), but it works pretty well on either a 901 or 801 cart (I suspect the wool fits into the "nooks" in the 801 cart better than foam would, but I could be wrong).
 

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eclypse, this is working great for me. Thanks for posting the pics as well. I'm currently using some rather thin 48mg juice and am scared to try with the good stuff I got from nhaler as I have very little left.

I'd be curious to know how this is working for folks with different (thickness) liquids.

Good to hear some someone that tried my mod!

I too believe i have some thin juice (TW Marl). I wish i had some money for some Nhaler juice :)

If someone tried my Blue Foam Plug mod with some thick juice.. please let us know how its working for you.
 

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OMG you evil genius .......!

Blue foam with stock cart plug... ALMOST passed out vaping for over 85 draws and 65 minutes non stop.

Are you saying you left the white polyfill in and added the blue foam? I ditched the polyfill altogether, cut a plug per Eclypse's directions and have tons of vapor and flavor with a 510. :)

I am having a few issues with flooding and leaking, though, and might have to play around with plug size or not put so much liquid in the cart.

Hope Eclypse can get this down to a science with maybe a template (or hole punch?!) to eliminate the trial & error angst! :oops:

Thanks, Eclypse, for taking the time on this mod. ;)
 

eclypse

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@ Dredbull, LOL!! ;):D

Welp, i've been having some probs with the plug size. I have not had anytime to measure and cut it to the size i listed. I just eyeballed last night in a hurry... In a hurry i'm talking screaming sick 8 month old. lol..

So today i'll FINALLY have time to get the size right.. scarry part is that the plug looses its springiness after about 24 hours or so.. So leave the same plug long enough and you'll start to get some leakage.. then you'll know its time to change it. Ofcourse knowing when this happends and changing it before it does would be smart.

So i hope i can figure out the right size as now that i'm thinking about it, when i took the measurement of the plug that was working, i already removed it and refilled about 3-4 times before that. So it may be a little smaller then the original size.

Test it if you want.. though you may want to wait for the perfect size as it seems to have to be perfect to work right. Too large it wont wick good.. too small and it will leak.

Great thing i found the perfect size on the first try or i would of thought it would'nt of worked.

Though, i'll tell ya this, when you get it right.. ITS AWESOME! Never leaks and wicks like ya never experianced before.. everytime for hours.
 
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eclypse

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Well, just tested the original size i posted before. This time measuring it with my Digital Caliper and its working just like day one! hehe. Ahh.. thats the clean hit i remember.

Heres the size again:

10.40 mm Long (.409 Inches) x 6.88 mm wide (0.267 Inches) Wide. The thickness is just stock, as it came in the package.

EDIT: Just tried 10.40 x 7.00 mm and its working just as good.
 
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